eldo 868 Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 If only we kept Borini. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve5221 91 Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 If only we kept Borini.The manager would not play him even if he were still here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Liquidator 5,176 Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Thats it. I hope VB realize this squad is a crap, and need an overhaul and really buy new guys in the winter, though if keeps saying the same bullshit about the squad being superb, he can get his millions and go back to Portugal.And until the winter you will continue to criticise him while he is unable to buy anyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 And until the winter you will continue to criticise him while he is unable to buy anyoneIf he keeps using Drogba, dont give Torres the chances he needs, keeps using Mikel, then the answer is yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 What do you think of Leandro Damiao? I think he's brilliant but am unsure weather, even if do buy him, he will be given chances. I think Barca are interested in him of late too. We're not linked with him at all so I'm not holding out, but if we do go for him I still think a name like Pato or Cavani should accompany him. Our strikers have definitely been very wasteful, and irrelevant of refereeing decision, a confident striker will still find ways too get in the game.Damiao is a very good striker, but I rather have Cavani. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted November 25, 2011 Author Share Posted November 25, 2011 looks like i have unintentially created this season's version of "carlo out in the summer" thread that Styles made last season :doh: :doh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Damiao is a very good striker, but I rather have Cavani.Yeah Damiao is great, Brazil's got a great young group at the moment ... Neymar, Ganso, Moura et al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalBlues 2,817 Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 The signings that man makes become the spine of a team. Absoloute genius. Credit to AVB with Mata. Let's just hope he does reinvigorate the squad in the next window with some important signings. Like I said I'm hoping we go for Hazard, Modric and Pato - maybe Dimao too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 AVB needs to sack some players which is agreed. (kalou, anelka, bosingwa, mikel, malouda) though he should have tried way harder to get "his own men" and not try and change 30somethings into a style of play they have never played in their lives!! A.perriera and modric should have been here from the beginning of the year!! AVB will have a great young squad by next year, but this year will defineately be a learning curve for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Telegraph:- Roman Abramovich tells players that AVB is here to stay.- Fans ask the owner to express his loyalty to VB.http://www.telegraph...re-to-stay.htmlDaily Mail:- VB fighting for this job as next 17 days will be pivotal, according to a Chelsea source.- growing number of fans questioning VB appointment.http://www.dailymail...a-job-line.html-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I believe in both articles. AVB has the backing of Roman Abramovich for now, but that will change if we don't reach the final stages of CL and/or will get a couple of bad results against Newcastle and City.VB last interview was pretty annoying. People keep saying VB must stay at any price, because its players fault but he keeps saying things like that:- "this is squad is so good that was set out by myself to win four trophies".- " JT form is not bad"- " Im not thinking about buying anyone in January, its not on agenda".When I hear this kind of thing it only makes angry...oh that stupid red beard. Mancini said yesterday that even if City reach next level, they are not ready yet to win the CL, because clubs like Barca, Real and Bayern have much more experience in this kind of competition. I rather have a coach that say the truth, and go to the press and ask about the need of new players, than have a lunatic.Some people defending the portuguese now are saying that Terry and Lampard are awful, but when I said in the beginning of last season we needed a huge overhaul many people said we only needed 2 or 3 players because the squad was already good, now the same people are saying the problem is the squad...but, did you hear VB? According to him the squad is so superb that it can win Champions League, Premier League, Curling Cup and FA Cup.Of course the problem is the squad, but our manager doesn't realize that, then he also become the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo 1,729 Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 I'm sure AVB is a smart man with a lot of football knowledge...he probably knows our players a lot more than we think he does but why does he insist on using the high line D? We are getting EXPOSED on a weekly basis and it is painful to watch an aging JT and slow Ivanovic chasing down opposing strikers who are carving us up with ease..This defence used to be as solid as a rock and to win trophies imo thats where we start building. If AVB doesn't start to solidify our backline with some consistency and discipline we are in deep trouble this year because in the champions league better teams will have a field day against us. How can we expect Torres/Sturridge/Mata to have top class performances when we are constantly conceding goals and losing confidence? IMO AVB needs to stick with one D-line and keep the rotation at a minimum (how about resting Ashley for once, god knows how many minutes he's logged for us the past couple of years). We need to have that CB partnership like we did with JT and Gallas, JT and Carvalho back again. Probably not a popular opinion shared on this board but I think Alex/JT was pretty damn solid for us down the years...as much as I love David Luiz, he does has some risks. No doubt that he'll learn and adapt though, just hope it's sooner rather than later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo 1,729 Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Telegraph:- Roman Abramovich tells players that AVB is here to stay.- Fans ask the owner to express his loyalty to VB.http://www.telegraph...re-to-stay.htmlDaily Mail:- VB fighting for this job as next 17 days will be pivotal, according to a Chelsea source.- growing number of fans questioning VB appointment.http://www.dailymail...a-job-line.html-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I believe in both articles. AVB has the backing of Roman Abramovich for now, but that will change if we don't reach the final stages of CL and/or will get a couple of bad results against Newcastle and City.VB last interview was pretty annoying. People keep saying VB must stay at any price, because its players fault but he keeps saying things like that:- "this is squad is so good that was set out by myself to win four trophies".- " JT form is not bad"- " Im not thinking about buying anyone in January, its not on agenda".When I hear this kind of thing it only makes angry...oh that stupid red beard. Mancini said yesterday that even if City reach next level, they are not ready yet to win the CL, because clubs like Barca, Real and Bayern have much more experience in this kind of competition. I rather have a coach that say the truth, and go to the press and ask about the need of new players, than have a lunatic.Some people defending the portuguese now are saying that Terry and Lampard are awful, but when I said in the beginning of last season we needed a huge overhaul many people said we only needed 2 or 3 players because the squad was already good, now the same people are saying the problem is the squad...but, did you hear VB? According to him the squad is so superb that it can win Champions League, Premier League, Curling Cup and FA Cup.Of course the problem is the squad, but our manager doesn'tTelegraph:- Roman Abramovich tells players that AVB is here to stay.- Fans ask the owner to express his loyalty to VB.http://www.telegraph...re-to-stay.htmlDaily Mail:- VB fighting for this job as next 17 days will be pivotal, according to a Chelsea source.- growing number of fans questioning VB appointment.http://www.dailymail...a-job-line.html-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I believe in both articles. AVB has the backing of Roman Abramovich for now, but that will change if we don't reach the final stages of CL and/or will get a couple of bad results against Newcastle and City.VB last interview was pretty annoying. People keep saying VB must stay at any price, because its players fault but he keeps saying things like that:- "this is squad is so good that was set out by myself to win four trophies".- " JT form is not bad"- " Im not thinking about buying anyone in January, its not on agenda".When I hear this kind of thing it only makes angry...oh that stupid red beard. Mancini said yesterday that even if City reach next level, they are not ready yet to win the CL, because clubs like Barca, Real and Bayern have much more experience in this kind of competition. I rather have a coach that say the truth, and go to the press and ask about the need of new players, than have a lunatic.Some people defending the portuguese now are saying that Terry and Lampard are awful, but when I said in the beginning of last season we needed a huge overhaul many people said we only needed 2 or 3 players because the squad was already good, now the same people are saying the problem is the squad...but, did you hear VB? According to him the squad is so superb that it can win Champions League, Premier League, Curling Cup and FA Cup.Of course the problem is the squad, but our manager doesn't realize that, then he also become the problem. realize that, then he also become the problem.What do you expect AVB to say? That JT is shit and needs to step down as Chelsea captain? I think AVB is just saying the politcally correct thing for the fans so they don't all start jumping the gun. I also believe some of our players are way past it but most of the losses we suffered to the big clubs (man utd, liverpool, arsenal) could have gone both ways..We are capable of competing with them but to what extent? We lack an in form striker (Drogba was the reason we won the double imo in 09-10), we concede way too many sloppy goals that can be avoided or defended against better and our midfield is simply not producing chances for our strikers to play off of. I honestly swear if we did not have Mata/Sturridge this season we would be so fucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henri 115 Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 He's trying to work with what he has. What he has isn't a quality squad. He got a few signings in what was left of the summer window, a possible failure of him and the club to fail to work quickly, Modric quickly comes to mind.He hasn't been given the resources he needs yet. Let him have a chance to build a squad and then watch his philosophies and styles be implemented correctly. Then we will see results. Porto bought into it, and it bought them ultimate success.Give the guy a chance. It's not started well. Granted. So give him a chance to correct this. The failure comes about as a failure of the squad to adapt, so he is trying new things, but they're not being done properly.You gotta be kidding?. There is absolutely nothing wrong with our squad. Its full with talents and young player, he just dont use them because he is to scarry to failure, well you just totally did!. I really laugh of all you people belive in thiskiddo, Ancelotti was 100 times better than this spedo with good talk gift but on the pitch he cant get the team to perform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 You gotta be kidding?. The is absolutely nothing wrong with our squad. Its full with talents and young player, he just dont use them because he is to scarry to failure, well you just totally did!. I really laugh of all you people belive in thiskiddo, Ancelotti was 100 better than this spedo with good talk gift but on the pitch he cant get the team to perform.'nothing wrong with our squad'You're deluded. Even Mourinho himself would ask for this team to be shipped out. 12 players of our main squad, say out of 19, are 30+. Our youth are seldom, and not ready. How you can say a squad, where Malouda plays more games than he should, is perfect.. I'll never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 What do you expect AVB to say? That JT is shit and needs to step down as Chelsea captain? I think AVB is just saying the politcally correct thing for the fans so they don't all start jumping the gun. I also believe some of our players are way past it but most of the losses we suffered to the big clubs (man utd, liverpool, arsenal) could have gone both ways..We are capable of competing with them but to what extent? We lack an in form striker (Drogba was the reason we won the double imo in 09-10), we concede way too many sloppy goals that can be avoided or defended against better and our midfield is simply not producing chances for our strikers to play off of. I honestly swear if we did not have Mata/Sturridge this season we would be so fucked.Our strikers are also extremely wasteful and we can't blame Kalou this time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevemayer 764 Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 If only we kept Borini.that borini who is loand by his new club and has scored one goal so far? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 that borini who is loand by his new club and has scored one goal so far?Getting your friend Kakuta back would solve our problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henri 115 Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 'nothing wrong with our squad'You're deluded. Even Mourinho himself would ask for this team to be shipped out. 12 players of our main squad, say out of 19, are 30+. Our youth are seldom, and not ready. How you can say a squad, where Malouda plays more games than he should, is perfect.. I'll never know.'nothing wrong with our squad'You're deluded. Even Mourinho himself would ask for this team to be shipped out. 12 players of our main squad, say out of 19, are 30+. Our youth are seldom, and not ready. How you can say a squad, where Malouda plays more games than he should, is perfect.. I'll never know.Disagree. First af all age is not the way to jugde players. The comments of our youth is bullshit, they are ready. Romeu,McEachran, Lukaku, Bertrand, give them a chance if your seriouly of building something new Mr. Boas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevemayer 764 Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Getting your friend Kakuta back would solve our problems.did I press the 0?but Neymar... where is this footbalworldchangeing guy? at least Kakuta gets good reviews bei Owen Coyle... and isn't comeing out with wrong facts time by time to get his marketvalue high Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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