Sheva. 5,373 Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 No, because I don't think Lewandowski is on Gomez's or Higuain's level.Saying that, Lewandowski is too good to come here and be some sort of second choice striker. The point I'm trying to make is that we shouldn't spend £25m+ on a player who isn't going to be our first choice striker.Torres has the capability to score chances that will be created for him inevitably with the team we're building. So does Sturridge.If he didn't cost more than £20m then fair enough, but anything above that is overpriced for anyone's who's not going to add anything different to the team.It's money wasted as I'd rather have other areas in the team completed first.I agree Lewandowski is not at their level (yet) but that reason you gave for him scoring a lot of goals for Dortmund could be applied to many other top strikers.Anyway who said he's not going to be first choice? he's certainly good enough to be one.At Dortmund he started out as second choice to Barrios but eventually fought him off and became a regular starter this past season.And finally, yes Torres can convert some chances, but i still think we need another striker. And someone not 40m expensive (plus 200k wages) Duppy Conqueror 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amir nezam 2 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 he is a very good striker if he join us torres and storidge & maybe hulk will be a reservetorres no good enough we need other striker like lewandowski or hulk but hulk 26 and lewandowski 23 so he is better for long time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,147 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 he is a very good striker if he join us torres and storidge & maybe hulk will be a reservetorres no good enough we need other striker like lewandowski or hulk but hulk 26 and lewandowski 23 so he is better for long timeIt won't be Hulk and Lewandowski, it will be one of them only I am sure. I have doubts about Torres but even if we buy another striker, I still think Torres will start as the no.1 striker to prove himself and he looked quite sharp in the Euros. Also you are being too cautious about the age factor. Even if Hulk joined, 26 is a good age to see out some good years at the club. Just look at Drogba for instance, but like you I would like to see Lewandowski here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 It won't be Hulk and Lewandowski, it will be one of them only I am sure. I have doubts about Torres but even if we buy another striker, I still think Torres will start as the no.1 striker to prove himself and he looked quite sharp in the Euros. Also you are being too cautious about the age factor. Even if Hulk joined, 26 is a good age to see out some good years at the club. Just look at Drogba for instance, but like you I would like to see Lewandowski hereI don't think it will be Hulk, and the fact there isn't much news about lewandowski makes me think it might not be him either... Could be an example of where we scurry around towards the end of the season trying to find a third striker. amir nezam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,147 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 I don't think it will be Hulk, and the fact there isn't much news about lewandowski makes me think it might not be him either... Could be an example of where we scurry around towards the end of the season trying to find a third striker.I also get the feeling Lewandowski will not move to us as I am sure he will only move to a big club where he is guaranteed first team football. I wouldnt mind Adebayor though even though I am 99% we will not get him but we can get him on the cheap but I really rate him. I wouldnt mind Dembele as a makeshit CF/CM as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 I also get the feeling Lewandowski will not move to us as I am sure he will only move to a big club where he is guaranteed first team football. I wouldnt mind Adebayor though even though I am 99% we will not get him but we can get him on the cheap but I really rate him. I wouldnt mind Dembele as a makeshit CF/CM as wellMore belgiums lol... Don't particularly want adebayor, as others have stated in other threads someone like Dzecko would make for a good 2nd choice striker, though i doubt he would be sold for cheap, or Demba Ba, which i have said many times, though doesn't look like its even on our raydar... Could even be Moses, if we can agree, or more specifically Whelan can agree and not be a dick... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRiver 1,512 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 I also get the feeling Lewandowski will not move to us as I am sure he will only move to a big club where he is guaranteed first team football. I wouldnt mind Adebayor though even though I am 99% we will not get him but we can get him on the cheap but I really rate him. I wouldnt mind Dembele as a makeshit CF/CM as wellThis. And he knows that he cannot be guaranteed first team football with Torres in the same team. Torres deserves one last chance next season, and if he continues to disappoint, then he will have to either accept the bench or fuck off for good. And then I'd welcome Lewandowski with open arms. It seems that the vast majority of Chelsea fans have no faith in Torres for next season, and this is why I think he will surprise us all. Stats 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,147 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 More belgiums lol... Don't particularly want adebayor, as others have stated in other threads someone like Dzecko would make for a good 2nd choice striker, though i doubt he would be sold for cheap, or Demba Ba, which i have said many times, though doesn't look like its even on our raydar... Could even be Moses, if we can agree, or more specifically Whelan can agree and not be a dick...I wouldnt mind Ba as well despite reports his knee is like a time ticking bomb lol but his release clause deadline has passed so he won't be allowed to leave on the cheap. Gourlay said we are still in the market for 2 players, wonder who they are. One RB I am guessing and maybe a winger or striker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,147 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 This. And he knows that he cannot be guaranteed first team football with Torres in the same team. Torres deserves one last chance next season, and if he continues to disappoint, then he will have to either accept the bench or fuck off for good. And then I'd welcome Lewandowski with open arms.It seems that the vast majority of Chelsea fans have no faith in Torres for next season, and this is why I think he will surprise us all.I agree with you totally, I would like to see Torres bang in the goals for us and be the premiership top scorer. I admit I have my doubts of him still but no matter what pressure he feels I am 100% supportive on having another striker to show that Torres has no easy ride in the first team and we can have someone already proven ready to step in if he goes on a goal drought again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amir nezam 2 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 what price of lewandowski? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 I agree Lewandowski is not at their level (yet) but that reason you gave for him scoring a lot of goals for Dortmund could be applied to many other top strikers.Anyway who said he's not going to be first choice? he's certainly good enough to be one.At Dortmund he started out as second choice to Barrios but eventually fought him off and became a regular starter this past season.And finally, yes Torres can convert some chances, but i still think we need another striker. And someone not 40m expensive (plus 200k wages)Honestly, I think we've got that "other" striker in Daniel Sturridge already. If Torres fails to produce next season, I'm confident Daniel can step up. Daniel can be just as good as Lewandowski, maybe even better IMO. Guarantee you if Sturridge played for another team he'd cost £20m at least, and people would be courting about how we should sign him. Kezza, Blue-in-me-Veins and Kisho 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Honestly, I think we've got that "other" striker in Daniel Sturridge already. If Torres fails to produce next season, I'm confident Daniel can step up. Daniel can be just as good as Lewandowski, maybe even better IMO.Guarantee you if Sturridge played for another team he'd cost £20m at least, and people would be courting about how we should sign him.I am not a believer. But we shall see i guess. The Skipper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,147 Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 2 goals for Dortmund in their 60 min tournament today. What a quality striker he is, sure he is going to be banging in the goals for fun again this season. Would love to see him at the Bridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 2 goals for Dortmund in their 60 min tournament today. What a quality striker he is, sure he is going to be banging in the goals for fun again this season. Would love to see him at the BridgeOf course, his team actually creates decent chances for him. Does he fashion a lot of chances away? He's good enough to put them away. He'd have problems here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea? 892 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Of course, his team actually creates decent chances for him. Does he fashion a lot of chances away? He's good enough to put them away. He'd have problems here.that's not why Torres is struggling her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 that's not why Torres is struggling her.Is that why Drogba scored a hatful of goals as well?Look, I'm not saying that Torres is blameless, but I guarantee you any decent striker who had the service of most last season would struggle to score 20 goals too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea? 892 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Is that why Drogba scored a hatful of goals as well?Look, I'm not saying that Torres is blameless, but I guarantee you any decent striker who had the service of most last season would struggle to score 20 goals too.I fail to believe Newcastle and Arsenal have better mids than we do. We certainly were lacking in creativity last year with only Mata being a real passer but a striker can't be spoon fed all day. Ofcourse its not all Torres fault, but he definitely isn't helping our mids out either. Also how was DD able to score so many goals in cup games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 I fail to believe Newcastle and Arsenal have better mids than we do. We certainly were lacking in creativity last year with only Mata being a real passer but a striker can't be spoon fed all day. Ofcourse its not all Torres fault, but he definitely isn't helping our mids out either. Also how was DD able to score so many goals in cup games?It's not so much about what players we had. It's about the way we played. We didn't create enough as a team last year. It's been evident this preseason as well, but we've made the right steps towards rectifying that problem, we just need to marry the solution (e.g. Get the likes of Mata, Hazard and Oscar working together). If we do that then we'll surely see someone like Torres regularly scoring, thus reducing the need for a new striker. Believe it or not, Torres was our top scorer under RDM if I'm not incorrect. He's still good enough IMO, we just need to sort out other areas in the team before we can definitely know for sure that we need a new striker. That's my opinion anyway. Blue-in-me-Veins 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Lewa is called the "Polish Torres" but he is a far more intelligent player, not relying only on his instincts as torres does but haivng a great football brain, too. Could work on his general conversion rate, anyhow his ability to score in the big games at crucial moments ( 4 goals against bayern in the 2 games deciding dfb-pokal and deutsche meisterschaft all goals to brilliant points of time) are poised to reach drogba-esque extents, its unbelievable how clinical he was in these games, converting literally every shot. Would love him here next season, Torres has 2 good years in him maximum and maybe we should not rely on studge or lukaku to become worldclass. Stats and Duppy Conqueror 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Fong 2,776 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 First thing first, Is Dortmund willing to sell? If not then we're wasting time discussing how good he is. I know every player has a price, but if the club is reluctant to sell and the player doesn't even want to move, there's not much we can do really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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