Gilvorak 3,734 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Gonna miss Juan. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiL0hMLTaxs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Do you honestly believe that? Don't you think, if Mata has a big role to play, he would have been given substantial chances over the past few months and trusted more? He has been treated as if he was Benayoun. He has started plenty. He would still be seeing minutes too if he didnt have a meltdown the last time he was subbed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! lionsden 4,689 Posted January 21, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted January 21, 2014 A promising kid who had a couple of good games for probably the best #10 in the world last season? I would stop watching football if that happened. I'm not joking at all. I would switch to something else. That's one of the reasons I have stopped taking the mata thread seriously. people will have you believe he's the Spanish charlie adam with the disrespectful tone they write about him now that he's no longer a starter. And the sad thing is that, there would be some Chelsea fans who would actually support the insane mata for adnan swap. Pascal Newton, chelseathebest, Azpinator and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 You guys do know Rooney is 30 next year right? It'd be the typical Chelsea short term move so I wouldn't be surprised tbh.He's 30 in 21 months lol, closer to 2 years than 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Cech's helmet 220 Posted January 21, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted January 21, 2014 It's mind blowing how a player who was our star player for the last 2 years can just be dropped like that out of the blue for ridiculous reasons like "he doesn't track back" he's a fooking number 10 ffs. did Ronaldinho, Riquelme and Kaka "track back" when they were playing as no10's?Oscar can do all these tackles/pressing because he used to play as a CM in Brazil. Oscar is a good player, wherever you play him, he's going to do the job. Mata is different, he's not complete, but there are only a few players in the world that have similar vision, creativity and passing like him in the world. Oscar obviously scored/assisted more this year and that's because he's playing week in week out. Mata didn't get a fair shot, and that's whats pissing me off the most. Vybz Kartel, DDA, Amblève. and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Azpinator 2,325 Posted January 21, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted January 21, 2014 We actually deserve to be called plastic fans by others, I finally get it. Vybz Kartel, laura90, Christo191 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Cech's helmet 220 Posted January 21, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted January 21, 2014 Gonna miss Juan. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiL0hMLTaxsWatching this video makes me rage. Willian and Oscar don't even do a quarter of the things he's done in this video.not because they're bad players, it's just some players are naturally gifted. it's instinct, Mata's born with it. the long range passes, the through balls, the curvey finishes, the perfect corner kicks, 1 touch play. now that's someone who I'm going to pay to watch. any hard working player can chase the ball and tackle for 90 minutes, but only few are magical and provide entertainment/magical moments.Also it's quite ironic when someone on here suggest Oscar should play right wing/CM someone comes and says " why change something when it's perfect?" Well, Mata was our no10 for 2 years and it worked perfectly... so why is Jose starting Oscar in that role?19 goals and 35 assists last year and Jose prefers playing Ramires on the right wing ahead of him, fuk me, talk about double standards. lionsden, â•«rue Blue, Christo191 and 8 others 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabHazard 655 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Please Do not sell him to ManUtd!!!!! Christo191 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! lionsden 4,689 Posted January 21, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted January 21, 2014 We actually deserve to be called plastic fans by others, I finally get it.It's still amazing how quickly people turned on him and change their opinion from last season. it was so quick, it left the speed of sound for dead and had the speed of light trailing by a couple of thousand miles per second. Azpinator, laura90, chelseathebest and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelsea_4_eva 1,182 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I miss Juan so much... It's been a while since i've seen him on the pitch. Miss watching his magic... sdrcfc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane 2,275 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Needs to get 90 minutes at the weekend. Without a doubt.Will start to question Jose if he doesn't. sdrcfc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Pascal Newton 33 Posted January 21, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted January 21, 2014 19 goals and 35 assists last year and Jose prefers playing Ramires on the right wing ahead of him, fuk me, talk about double standards.You know what's funnier. When people are examining this issue they start with an assumption which they then try to justify. The assumption is that Mourinho is right to bench Mata. I love Mourinho, I know he builds unbeatable teams, and have followed his Inter and Madrid teams, but I don't remember him ever making a decision seemingly as bonkers as this one. I think his reputation makes people search for good reasons for his decision rather than the obvious one - namely, that he might have made a mistake. Cech's helmet, Christo191, lionsden and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 As I said before, now that we have a proper CM pairing with Matic and whoever, I think that playing Mata at number 10 shouldn't be such a problem anymore for Jose. Jose should utilise Mata's skill sets in the right way, especially against teams that sit deep and pack 11 men behind the ball. Mata would be ideal at number 10 in those situations - especially if he had a solid CM behind him.Hopefully Jose tries this but I doubt it. The thing is we've actually played pretty well over our last couple of games.To me, Mata should be sold so he can save his career. He's too good to be a benchwarmer. I wouldn't want to sell him to United though, unless it was a ridiculous offer. lionsden, hjperdeath, Jase and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannyfreshh 164 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Play mata as #10 and play oscar next to matic/mikel/ramires... Mata needs to play!!!!! Enough already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Cech's helmet 220 Posted January 21, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted January 21, 2014 The thing is, Jose made a bold statement and there is a clip of it on youtube where he said he wants Oscar as the no10. that was was like just 2/3 league games in the season I think. that was the period when everyone has been doubting him (pundits/media/fans) saying that Mata is a better player than Oscar, they're right. but Mourinho wants to prove us all wrong by playing Oscar and sticking to his word/idea. we know how big Jose's ego is, he's never going to play Mata in that role to prove his point. he wants to show hes right. Oscar is not going to disappoint, he's an amazing player and he's going to do a good job, so Jose will have an excuse. but the fact is; Mata is the better player and Oscar should have been a long term replacement for Frank in CM.it's not because he doesn't like Mata or has a personal problem with him, it's to prove the pundits wrong. the only loser in this case is Mata; and thats why I feel so pissed off/disappointed for him. the fact Schurrle is ahead of him in the picking order now just shows Jose really doesn't give a fuk about the lad. it's just not meant to be for some reason.I've never enjoyed watching a player like I did with Mata, only Hazard comes close to creating those "out of nothing" magical moments. great guy, a true professional, an insanely talented loyal player who loved this club. when the likes of Real Madrid come knocking I'm sure he would have never left. he really "carried us" when we were playing some of the worst football ever in the last 2 years. top lad. Amblève., Christo191, Johnny Kills and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterfall 893 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 It's mind blowing how a player who was our star player for the last 2 years can just be dropped like that out of the blue for ridiculous reasons like "he doesn't track back" he's a fooking number 10 ffs. did Ronaldinho, Riquelme and Kaka "track back" when they were playing as no10's?Oscar can do all these tackles/pressing because he used to play as a CM in Brazil. Oscar is a good player, wherever you play him, he's going to do the job. Mata is different, he's not complete, but there are only a few players in the world that have similar vision, creativity and passing like him in the world. Oscar obviously scored/assisted more this year and that's because he's playing week in week out. Mata didn't get a fair shot, and that's whats pissing me off the most.Yes, it also pisses me off that Oscar is playing so well as the #10 for us. Arghhh who cares if the team performs well when my favorite player is on the bench!!! Booo Mourinho!!!Needs to get 90 minutes at the weekend. Without a doubt.Will start to question Jose if he doesn't. What a ridiculous thing to say. Start questioning Jose when he sucks at his job, not because you disagree with his team selection LOL. Granted Mata definitely deserves more respect than Torres, this whole saga reminds me of the Torres dilemma of last 3 years. Some people care more about the player than the team. kellzfresh, Muzchap, darrus and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Needs to get 90 minutes at the weekend. Without a doubt.Will start to question Jose if he doesn't.So you're going to question Mourinho if the player that you want to get 90 minutes doesn't get them at the weekend, regardless of the result and regardless of said player's performance? Well, Mata was our no10 for 2 years and it worked perfectly... so why is Jose starting Oscar in that role?No it didn't work perfectly. It wasn't solely down to Mata, but we were a soft team for a lot of that time. We were disjointed between midfield and attack whereas now we're a much more cohesive, harder-working unit. Jose is starting Oscar in that role because he thinks he can win more games that way.There are some people who really need to have a word with themselves because they're spouting a lot of shit, not just about Mata but about their fellow Chelsea supporters. No-one has derided him as the Spanish Charlie Adam as one miserable soul as suggested. The constant shrieking accusations from certain members that the club have treated him disgracefully are beyond pathetic too. For the first time in years we have a manager who is world-class and getting results, and because he chooses not to play one player (instead picking other world-class players) people act like spoilt little children. It's embarrassing. We beat Man United at the weekend with ease and people are willing to question Mourinho if ONE player doesn't get 90 minutes in the next match? chillerz, Peace., The Skipper and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Muzchap 8,966 Posted January 21, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted January 21, 2014 Agree with Waterfall - gotta look at the big picture... Thing is Mata was our best player. BUT we relied on 1 man, if he had an average game we lost... Our performances over the past 2 seasons where shocking... It's easy to look back with rosé tinted glasses...What Jose is trying to bring is a collective, a unit - a team that wins I don't know whether it's right or not. But I wanted Mourinho and if this is the price we have to pay, then it will hurt - but ultimately he is doing it for the Team...Only time will tell if its the right decision - but as a fan of Mata and football in general, the poor lad deserves to be playing, not rotting on a bench... Waterfall, chillerz, kellzfresh and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane 2,275 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 So you're going to question Mourinho if the player that you want to get 90 minutes doesn't get them at the weekend, regardless of the result and regardless of said player's performance? No it didn't work perfectly. It wasn't solely down to Mata, but we were a soft team for a lot of that time. We were disjointed between midfield and attack whereas now we're a much more cohesive, harder-working unit. Jose is starting Oscar in that role because he thinks he can win more games that way.There are some people who really need to have a word with themselves because they're spouting a lot of shit, not just about Mata but about their fellow Chelsea supporters. No-one has derided him as the Spanish Charlie Adam as one miserable soul as suggested. The constant shrieking accusations from certain members that the club have treated him disgracefully are beyond pathetic too. For the first time in years we have a manager who is world-class and getting results, and because he chooses not to play one player (instead picking other world-class players) people act like spoilt little children. It's embarrassing. We beat Man United at the weekend with ease and people are willing to question Mourinho if ONE player doesn't get 90 minutes in the next match? Chill out abit mate.I would question whether its for his style of play or just a dislike on Jose's part if Juan doesn't get 90 minutes at the weekend, Because if he doesn't get 90 minutes at the weekend, When is he going to get his chance? He was taken off against Southampton after 53 minutes. He hasn't featured in the 3 games we've played since, Which included an FA Cup tie against Championship opposition.I'd also like to see Juan as I feel Oscar didn't play that well against United. Didn't contribute to any of our goals and missed a chance himself. I feel this is the time to bring Juan back into the side as it will also serve to Oscar that his place isn't guaranteed week in, week out. It's nothing to do with Mata being one of my favorite players, Because I believe Oscar on form is better in the #10 role then Juan, But I do believe that Mata has a bigger part to play in the club then Jose is giving him right now.I'm loving Mourinho being back, and like you I fucking hate the glory hunters and whinging little bitches when we don't win 4-0, But its just strange to see a player of Mata's quality have such a small role to play this season, when, if giving the chance, he can be one of our outstanding performers like he has done in the past two seasons. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZOS 580 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 just don't sell him to the manures, please sdrcfc and kellzfresh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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