Popular Post! Leif 6,006 Posted July 3, 2017 Popular Post! Share Posted July 3, 2017 Serie A is not weaker than the Premier League, at all. Maybe it was 3 seasons or so ago. La Liga, Serie A, Premier League, Bundesliga, Ligue 1. There's no nuance to the game here anymore; if you can score against Italian defences you'll rip English ones to shreds. And this is before the top teams in Italy have their own stadiums. This is before they get the obscene TV money the English teams get. The Premier League's almost dead, and it's being replaced by a lookalike zombie. Shining here means nothing, now. It's no coincidence the likes of Aguero & Suarez dominated over here, yet only ever been the 5th or even 10th best player in Spain. Add Costa to that too. Went from being something like the 15th best player in La Liga to a top 3 player in the Premier League - and it's not like he's improved as player - he hasn't. Even Bale ripped England up, only to be a slightly above average player over in Spain. Elite forwards look at the lack of actual football over here and lick their lips. + Sanchez, too*. If Jamie Vardy & Mahrez can come out of nowhere & both end a season as top 5 scorers, Belotti can do so, with ease. *Got another one - Fabregas went from a 'meh' player in Spain, to truly being one of the top 5 players in the Premier League, this following his decline. SinineUltra, Strike, lucio and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnald 256 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Doubt Everton are already spending the Big Rom money... Jesus Christ they've already made like what 4 or 5 signings? They just bought Michael Keane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Thing with Mbappe it's just raw talent, you can see that. His turn of pace is electric, his reading of the game is years ahead of his time for a young kid. Â Blue Armour, YorkshireBlue and kellzfresh 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard N Y Burgesson 139 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, Leif said: Serie A is not weaker than the Premier League, at all. Maybe it was 3 seasons or so ago. La Liga, Serie A, Premier League, Bundesliga, Ligue 1. There's no nuance to the game here anymore; if you can score against Italian defences you'll rip English ones to shreds. Example Gabbiandini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,439 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Tomo said: Pogba will end up being worth the price in relitive terms, he's certainly one of the best midfielder's around and when the obsession over his price tag stops he will be reconised as such. Lukaku im truly not convinced ever will be, his goals no doubt he will score, but aside from that i can't see how he fits in. Costa fit's us outside his goals because he's tenacious, presses well and is incredibility smart tactically with his off the ball movement. Even when he has his games were he can barely control the ball properly he gives us that. Lukaku falls short on those tactical level's compared to Costa and i fear our shape and team balance could be heavily affected by the fact Romelu is pretty lazy and hasn't got great movement.  Really agree with that bit about Costa, which is why i'm still hoping for club, player and manager to eventually sort out all their differences in the summer.It will be forever before we can find another striker to fit that bill. Tomo, BlueLyon and DYC. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,439 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Ideally we could keep Costa and secure a deal for Mbappe. But,..definitely not going to complain if Lukaku's all we're going to get for a forward from this window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeboii 1,844 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 7 hours ago, Leif said: Serie A is not weaker than the Premier League, at all. Maybe it was 3 seasons or so ago. La Liga, Serie A, Premier League, Bundesliga, Ligue 1. There's no nuance to the game here anymore; if you can score against Italian defences you'll rip English ones to shreds. And this is before the top teams in Italy have their own stadiums. This is before they get the obscene TV money the English teams get. The Premier League's almost dead, and it's being replaced by a lookalike zombie. Shining here means nothing, now. It's no coincidence the likes of Aguero & Suarez dominated over here, yet only ever been the 5th or even 10th best player in Spain. Add Costa to that too. Went from being something like the 15th best player in La Liga to a top 3 player in the Premier League - and it's not like he's improved as player - he hasn't. Even Bale ripped England up, only to be a slightly above average player over in Spain. Elite forwards look at the lack of actual football over here and lick their lips. + Sanchez, too*. If Jamie Vardy & Mahrez can come out of nowhere & both end a season as top 5 scorers, Belotti can do so, with ease. Then look at how Salah did in the English game then went to Roma and ripped the defences to shreds in Italy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Yeboii said: Then look at how Salah did in the English game then went to Roma and ripped the defences to shreds in Italy. Maybe it wasn't the English game, maybe it was Chelsea the reason he didn't realize his potential. Coutinho flopped at Inter, and became a star at Liverpool. Was it the league or he was a bad fit at Inter? Kevin De Bruyne had similar results at Chelsea, but came back to the PL and is one of the best in the league. Also you look at Cuardado who failed at Chelsea, but when he was at Juventus he put in really good performances in the CL against Man City. He would never put in that type of performance for Chelsea even with similar opposition. So i particularly don't like that logic, if a player fails at a new league/club then to conclude the new league he moved to is superior to his old one. Too many variables to reach such conclusion. I do believe though some players are better fit for certain leagues. -Kaplan-, Fernando and DYC. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetsajCFC 1,255 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 On 2.7.2017 at 11:54 PM, Pizy said: Close to signing Michael Keane for £25m as well. Unless Everton have suddenly decided to be mega spenders out of nowhere, the Lukaku deal has surely been done. They probably have an agreement with us not to announce it until they announce all of their signings so their supporters won't riot. They won't mind selling Lukaku if they have 4-5 new players in. Either way, Everton will be very strong next season. Nice additions. Agree, quality signings. Plus, if other clubs knew they had the "Lukaku money", they'd be held ransom. Leif 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 34 minutes ago, Dingus said: Â but lukaku wants chelsea... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,277 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 10 minutes ago, xPetrCechx said: but lukaku wants chelsea... U watch lukaku goes man utd and we get stuck with morata Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea4 1,521 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 11 minutes ago, xPetrCechx said: but lukaku wants chelsea... The source is terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 8 minutes ago, BluesMadLad said: U watch lukaku goes man utd and we get stuck with morata both fine, i want someone better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,277 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Just now, xPetrCechx said: both fine, i want someone better. Worse case diego stays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Regardless whether he's 'good enough' or not, he doesn't have 4+ lungs - we will not compete in many tournaments if we continue this shambolic trend of only having 1 great striker. We've had Drogba, Anelka, and Kalou at the same time. Lining up against anyone in the league or in Europe, at least with the first two, you didn't expect a downgrade in quality. Kalou was a solid back up. We've had Drogba & Torres - not exactly clear who was second-fiddle, but we had 2 experienced players who've done & proven it all. We've had Eto'o, Ba, Torres, Schurrle - all capable strikers who at that point, were still among the upper end of strikers in the league. 4 of them. Now, we're going to have Lukaku and probably Michy. It's hilarious. These are kids. And they're going to be kids even late into their 30's. We've gone from flamethrowers & cannons to water pistols. Everyone else outside of Chelsea seems to have a shred more sanity. Our fanbase would consider Morata & Lukaku enough; even just Martial & Lukaku enough.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,909 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 25 minutes ago, Leif said: Regardless whether he's 'good enough' or not, he doesn't have 4+ lungs - we will not compete in many tournaments if we continue this shambolic trend of only having 1 great striker. We've had Drogba, Anelka, and Kalou at the same time. Lining up against anyone in the league or in Europe, at least with the first two, you didn't expect a downgrade in quality. Kalou was a solid back up. We've had Drogba & Torres - not exactly clear who was second-fiddle, but we had 2 experienced players who've done & proven it all. We've had Eto'o, Ba, Torres, Schurrle - all capable strikers who at that point, were still among the upper end of strikers in the league. 4 of them. Now, we're going to have Lukaku and probably Michy. It's hilarious. These are kids. And they're going to be kids even late into their 30's. We've gone from flamethrowers & cannons to water pistols. Everyone else outside of Chelsea seems to have a shred more sanity. Our fanbase would consider Morata & Lukaku enough; even just Martial & Lukaku enough.  We'll certainly need more than one forward this summer. Surely a coach as good as Conte sees and realizes that. We can't simply swap Deigo for Lukaku and think it's enough. It would be suicide. My guess is Lukaku + a hybrid forward who can play multiple attacking positions. If Morata wasn't off to United he'd be perfect. Maybe try to pip Juventus to Bernardeschi? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Jype 6,398 Posted July 4, 2017 Popular Post! Share Posted July 4, 2017 17 minutes ago, Leif said: Regardless whether he's 'good enough' or not, he doesn't have 4+ lungs - we will not compete in many tournaments if we continue this shambolic trend of only having 1 great striker. We've had Drogba, Anelka, and Kalou at the same time. Lining up against anyone in the league or in Europe, at least with the first two, you didn't expect a downgrade in quality. Kalou was a solid back up. We've had Drogba & Torres - not exactly clear who was second-fiddle, but we had 2 experienced players who've done & proven it all. We've had Eto'o, Ba, Torres, Schurrle - all capable strikers who at that point, were still among the upper end of strikers in the league. 4 of them. Now, we're going to have Lukaku and probably Michy. It's hilarious. These are kids. And they're going to be kids even late into their 30's. We've gone from flamethrowers & cannons to water pistols. In what world was Eto'o, Ba and Torres (Schürrle was not a striker for Chelsea anymore than someone like Pedro is right now so I'm not including him) better than Lukaku and Batshuayi? Hilarious that anyone would even suggest something like that, Lukaku alone will easily score more than all those put together and would expect Batshuayi to chip in with at least +15 in all competitions too, given he'll get more games than last season. Hell, the man scored 9 goals in 703 minutes this past season with practically zero consistent playing time so I have no doubt he'll continue being efficient if he stays at the club. And yeah Drogba & Torres of 2012 were fucking unstoppable too, scored an unprecedented tally of 11 league goals combined between the two of them that season. Prime Drogba of 2010 as the main striker with Anelka and Kalou as other options was a better bunch, obviously. How many great strikers do Bayern have? Or Juventus? Or PSG? El P., ja1, Footballover and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turgi 71 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 This is getting a bit exhausting too. Days gone with no real news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Rooney to Everton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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