The English Football Thread

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Bale: "Chelsea will win the Premier League"

http://www.defensacentral.com/real_madrid/111237-bale-el-chelsea-ganara-la-premier-league-real-madrid/

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Why is Mark Hughes even nominated. Beating City shouldn't just get him a nomination after pretty average performances in the previous matches.

Who'd you have instead of him?

[iseah100 5,612]

Who'd you have instead of him?

Paul Lambert

How many people get nominated? Was he nominated? Wegner maybe.

[guddy6969 188]

And ??

Re: General Chelsea Thread

« Reply #1760 on: September 9, 2014, 10:21:00 PM »

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Re: General Chelsea Thread

« Reply #1770 on: September 10, 2014, 11:30:48 AM »

I actually think as much as it is a disgrace from a football fan's perspective it's actually a smart strategy for FFP for Chelsea, at least if you're only looking at the next 2-4 years.

Pay smaller fees when the players are 16-18, then have most of their wages covered by the loanee club while they're gone. If they don't pan out, you can sell them for about what you paid for them or sometimes (De Bruyne, Lukaku) enough of a profit to make the whole thing pay for itself. If they do work out, you bring them into the team when they're fully developed, having spent a minimal fee and paid minimal wages for the years of development in between.

The problem is that they haven't managed to figure out a way to cut their losses on the older players who didn't work. You can see on that list several players who you know will never play a first team game for Chelsea, and the club must know this. However, given the higher wages they had to give to persuade the player to accept the deal in the first place, they can't dump them. Kakuta, Bertrand, Dejac, Davila, Romeu, Moses, Marin - those are the ones they can't dump anywhere, when the smart thing would have been to say if they get to that age and don't look close, it's time to just cut their losses.

I actually think we're going to be using the loan route to develop some of our players as well, though hopefully we can do it without being stuck with players entering their mid 20's who are never going to be worth the contracts they're on and as such as unsaleable. The advantage we have over Chelsea, especially long-term is that we have a manager and a financial budget that means that if a 20-year old has developed into the quality of player that we need him to, he will get time on the pitch in a red shirt. At Chelsea that simply isn't and never will be true.

If he had moved to Liverpool Piazon would be a crucial player for us and looked at as a big part of the future of the club, a la Coutinho/Sterling. At Chelsea, he's an afterthought, a possible way to make a bit of cash next summer to fund a big-money move for another player (who probably plays the same position as him!).

Long-term, it's not sustainable as the Piazons of the future will require so much extra wage money due to the limitations the system puts on their development that it will stop making financial sense, but in the short-term it's helping them out a lot.

Re: General Chelsea Thread

« Reply #1762 on: September 10, 2014, 12:03:35 AM »

Shit house of a club employing shit house tactics in everything they do. Really hope FFP fucks them over in the end. Horrible c*nts.

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Paul Lambert

How many people get nominated? Was he nominated? Wegner maybe.

If you check zyzz's post on this thread...4 managers, 5 players get nominated for Manager/Player of the Month

Lambert was nominated

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Player/Manager of the month nominees

Monk and Siggy are my votes...

With Costa not far behind....Kind of surprised not to see any city players there.

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

Interesting to see who is dropped between MU 5 man upfront. Lvg is mad if they are all starter.

[Kezza 1,965]

Interesting to see who is dropped between MU 5 man upfront. Lvg is mad if they are all starter.

Can see Mata being dropped tbh

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

Can see Mata being dropped tbh

Hope so then. Even though some of MU fans think his performance is shit lately, I still thinking he is their most capable player that could create something when situation doesn't work well for MU.

[Sidzeret 2,257]

Who'd you have instead of him?

Rodgers or Pochettino

[Special Juan 27,458]

Costa POTM and Monk MOTM

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Re: General Chelsea Thread

« Reply #1762 on: September 10, 2014, 12:03:35 AM »

Shit house of a club employing shit house tactics in everything they do. Really hope FFP fucks them over in the end. Horrible c*nts.

Damn it.....they`ve rumbled us

[Special Juan 27,458]

Costa POTM and Monk MOTM

As I said Costa POTM and Monk MOTM

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Rodgers or Pochettino

Yeah, Pochettino definitely.

But Monk and Costa are deserved winners, imo.

[Ainsley Harriott 2,732]

Monk and Costa, most likely.

Fucking spoiler. Smh.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Fernando and Jovetic out for the game against arsenal and are likely to miss the match against us as well.

[nyikolajevics 2,601]

Rodgers or Pochettino

Rodgers? Really? They were suffering against Southampton and sucked hard against City. Liverpool only had one good match.

Monk got the MOTM award which is well deserved. We did well too but winning three games in a row with Swansea is impressive.