The English Football Thread

[Vesper 29,203]

1 minute ago, Atomiswave said:

That I can give.....but man the level of epl has been crap imo. Beside pool and city all the other top teams are way way bad compared to before. Standsrds have fallen big time imo.

oh, I 100% agree there

[Tomo 21,736]

28 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

I know mate, its not good enough at all by both Clubs. We all used to laugh at arsenal being happy with top 4 finish......we are there now.

Completely different, worlds different.

Why Arsenal became Arsenal so to speak is they didn't adapt their expectations once Cesc, Nasri, RVP etc al matured. There's no crime in lowering expectations for a temporary period, especially when you lose your best player and are handing crucial squad places to teenagers with no previous top flight experience. To demand a title challenge under those circumstances would be moronic.

[LAM09 6,840]

That I can give.....but man the level of epl has been crap imo. Beside pool and city all the other top teams are way way bad compared to before. Standsrds have fallen big time imo.

I think it has more to do with teams catching up around the continent along with more backing. Having said that, what does that say about everyone else after last season in Europe?

[Atomiswave 6,072]

1 minute ago, Tomo said:

Completely different, worlds different.

Why Arsenal became Arsenal so to speak is they didn't adapt their expectations once Cesc, Nasri, RVP etc al matured. There's no crime in lowering expectations for a temporary period, especially when you lose your best player and are handing crucial squad places to teenagers with no previous top flight experience. To demand a title challenge under those circumstances would be moronic.

Arsenal lacked ambition, settled with many average players and never replaced their quality players and down they went. Of course a time comes when you have to build all over again and expectations must be adequate. ANd what if we didnt have all these teenagers to fill in? Its poor management simple. Lets see what we will and can do summer time....

1 minute ago, LAM09 said:

6 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

That I can give.....but man the level of epl has been crap imo. Beside pool and city all the other top teams are way way bad compared to before. Standsrds have fallen big time imo.

I think it has more to do with teams catching up around the continent along with more backing. Having said that, what does that say about everyone else after last season in Europe?

That too plays a part but no denying most big Clubs have fallen asleep or content somehow.

[Tomo 21,736]

2 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

Arsenal lacked ambition, settled with many average players and never replaced their quality players and down they went. Of course a time comes when you have to build all over again and expectations must be adequate. ANd what if we didnt have all these teenagers to fill in? Its poor management simple. Lets see what we will and can do summer time....

Point is, settling for mere top four occasionally isn't the crime it's made out to be. Even Fergie did it for a few years while he constructed his greatest ever side.

[Laylabelle 9,407]

2 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Point is, settling for mere top four occasionally isn't the crime it's made out to be. Even Fergie did it for a few years while he constructed his greatest ever side.

And that's what Liverpool have done really under Klopp. Couple seasons on the outside and then bam up theyve flown. Taken time but hes made a team which he hard to top for the next few seasons.

[Atomiswave 6,072]

2 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Point is, settling for mere top four occasionally isn't the crime it's made out to be. Even Fergie did it for a few years while he constructed his greatest ever side.

Def agree there but at the same time you are not guarantted success like that. FErgie was Fergie, with plenty revenue to buy quality when he saw fit.

[Laylabelle 9,407]

Another 1-0 win for them.  Easy.

Or just another win..2-0

[LAM09 6,840]

Title is theirs no matter what's gone before.

On another note, we get away with yet another slip up. [emoji1]

[Atomiswave 6,072]

2 minutes ago, Laylabelle said:

And that's what Liverpool have done really under Klopp. Couple seasons on the outside and then bam up theyve flown. Taken time but hes made a team which he hard to top for the next few seasons.

Klopp is proven, have loads of experience and has his style of play.....and even in his shitty years with pool you could clearly see progress. I hope we see similar under FL but its looking increacingly difficult. He is still a rookie but Ihope he learns.

[chelsea_4_eva 1,167]

I think what makes pool so good now is their hunger to win the title after coming so close last season.. city after winning it twice in a row became content... 

 

Cant wait for this season to be over tbh... 

[Laylabelle 9,407]

Urggghh cant they just lose one game..at home ideally.

Least Man U havent got closer...now for mid week.

[Vesper 29,203]

I take back bashing Fred

he was magnificent in the 2nd half

but the dippers are almost impossible to beat

Salah's first ever goal v Manure

[Atomiswave 6,072]

Just now, Laylabelle said:

Urggghh cant they just lose one game..at home ideally.

Least Man U havent got closer...now for mid week.

Exactly, we ll know it their title, but to go unbeaten will be horrible. in 100 years they will still talk about it in the media.

[Laylabelle 9,407]

Known still a while to go before it could be likely but if any team is gana take our home record..whyyyyy them

[NikkiCFC 8,082]

But I can't see Liverpool domination lasting for too long. I think in two years they are back in natural habitat. 

[Atomiswave 6,072]

Just now, NikkiCFC said:

But I can't see Liverpool domination lasting for too long. I think in two years they are back in natural habitat. 

That would be lovely

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

16 points ahead with a game in hand. Looks to be the most dominant side in history.