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  On 30/04/2015 at 14:33, The Skipper said:

I would sell Ramires and get in Milner on a free.

Milner wants to be a starter. If we make the right signings in the summer, he won't be.

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  On 30/04/2015 at 14:33, The Skipper said:

I would sell Ramires and get in Milner on a free.

Milner is a decent player available on a free but Ramires is definitely better footballer. Also is a few years younger. Milner isn't top 4 quality.

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  On 30/04/2015 at 17:17, OneMoSalah said:

Milner is a decent player available on a free but Ramires is definitely better footballer. Also is a few years younger. Milner isn't top 4 quality.

Fully disagree, I think Milner is a really good player that does essentially what Ramires does but in a better way. The only trade off is the loss of pace, but that'd be okay considering Milner is better in almost every other aspect.

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  On 30/04/2015 at 17:45, The Skipper said:

Fully disagree, I think Milner is a really good player that does essentially what Ramires does but in a better way. The only trade off is the loss of pace, but that'd be okay considering Milner is better in almost every other aspect.

The last thing this team needs is less pace. Milner is pretty good, but I'd rather have Ramires for the utility man role.

If Chels wants to add Englishmen to the team, put up the money and buy one or two young ones.

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  On 30/04/2015 at 17:17, OneMoSalah said:

Milner is a decent player available on a free but Ramires is definitely better footballer. Also is a few years younger. Milner isn't top 4 quality.

Wait, what? Ramires a better footballer than Milner?!

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

Ramires is DEFINITELY BETTER THAN Milner...

at running...

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  On 30/04/2015 at 18:38, DYC. said:

The last thing this team needs is less pace. Milner is pretty good, but I'd rather have Ramires for the utility man role.

If Chels wants to add Englishmen to the team, put up the money and buy one or two young ones.

I feel like we've got enough pace elsewhere in the team (Hazard, Willian, Cuadrado, Remy) if we need it. Milner is a much better utility man than Ramires because he's simply a better footballer. The only thing we would lose as mentioned before is Ramires' ability to break through the middle at pace but then again, we have the likes of Willian and Hazard for that. Feel like a Matic - Milner - Fabregas midfield for example is a lot more solid than Ramires instead of him. Milner isn't the slowest either.

Or Hazard - Willian - Milner. Milner can also play the 10 role in our system. He would be much better for it IMO. I feel like the pros outweigh the cons massively.

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  On 30/04/2015 at 20:45, Jason said:

Wait, what? Ramires a better footballer than Milner?!

Yes.

Milner doesn't offer anything Ramires does except for being English and perhaps a bit better technically but still lacks positional sense (Ramires does as well) as you can see with why whn hes played central midfield for City hes always charging around to get back into position because he has been out of it and doesn't win as many tackles as Rami does. The game against Arsenal Ramires had a good game, is Milner better than that Ramires? No definitely not.

Hes only at City because hes English and can play a few positions, he was a good player at Villa but never quite top 4 material and I think thats clear to see for the fact he can't get a game consistently in his common position (which is central midfield) or even out wide, when Fernandinho and Fernando have been poor in the middle this year and Navas and Nasri poor outwide.

I get we lack English players but if you think we should be looking at players at Milners level then why don't we go after Stewart Downing or Adam Johnson (before he got done for noncing) instead of Salah or even Defoe instead of Remy when we needed a striker? They are clearly not top 4 material... although I'd of taken Defoe as third choice over Drogba tbf.

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  On 30/04/2015 at 21:36, The Skipper said:

I feel like we've got enough pace elsewhere in the team (Hazard, Willian, Cuadrado, Remy) if we need it. Milner is a much better utility man than Ramires because he's simply a better footballer. The only thing we would lose as mentioned before is Ramires' ability to break through the middle at pace but then again, we have the likes of Willian and Hazard for that. Feel like a Matic - Milner - Fabregas midfield for example is a lot more solid than Ramires instead of him. Milner isn't the slowest either.

Or Hazard - Willian - Milner. Milner can also play the 10 role in our system. He would be much better for it IMO. I feel like the pros outweigh the cons massively.

Hmm, I don't think I rate Milner as highly as you do (especially in the middle). I don't like the thought of Milner playing (fairly) regularly at Chelsea.

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  On 30/04/2015 at 21:36, The Skipper said:

Or Hazard - Willian - Milner.

Lmao, what a nightmare lineup.

Do Chelsea need another player who has better workrate than end product?

[Pacquiao 1,834]

got to laugh at the people who think Milner is better then Ramires! :confused:

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  On 30/04/2015 at 23:15, Pacquiao said:

got to laugh at the people who think Milner is better then Ramires! :confused:

Instead of laughing, explain why you think so. Debate about it.

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  On 30/04/2015 at 23:02, Sheva. said:

Lmao, what a nightmare lineup.

Do Chelsea need another player who has better workrate than end product?

If we sold Ramires, Milner would be a great alternative yeah. As I've mentioned before, perfect utility player, and IMO he's underrated.

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Ramires is nothing more than a water carrier who can score the occasional screamer, he lacks the technical ability and football iq to be a great player. Milner is not much better but he can at least control a ball and pass efficiently. IMO we need to move away from these sort of signings, we need more technical players who are smarter with and without the ball, players such as Schneiderlin, Koke, Gündogan, André Gomes, Veratti, Cabaye etc.

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  On 30/04/2015 at 23:37, The Skipper said:

If we sold Ramires, Milner would be a great alternative yeah. As I've mentioned before, perfect utility player, and IMO he's underrated.

What does James Milner add to the squad that we don't already have though?

- Average CM, we got Ramires for that.

- Average RW, we got Willian.

- Defensive contribution from RW, Willian.

- Defensive contribution from CAM, Willian and Oscar.

- Little goal contribution from RW/CAM, Willian.

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  On 30/04/2015 at 16:39, LAM09 said:

Milner wants to be a starter. If we make the right signings in the summer, he won't be.

This. Milner is a good player but he won't leave City to join us. He will find himself in the same predicament. Don't see it happening at all.

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  On 30/04/2015 at 21:36, The Skipper said:

I feel like we've got enough pace elsewhere in the team (Hazard, Willian, Cuadrado, Remy) if we need it. Milner is a much better utility man than Ramires because he's simply a better footballer. The only thing we would lose as mentioned before is Ramires' ability to break through the middle at pace but then again, we have the likes of Willian and Hazard for that. Feel like a Matic - Milner - Fabregas midfield for example is a lot more solid than Ramires instead of him. Milner isn't the slowest either.

Or Hazard - Willian - Milner. Milner can also play the 10 role in our system. He would be much better for it IMO. I feel like the pros outweigh the cons massively.

I usually respect your posts and generally agree with them but I have to say, Milner wouldn't add anything to our squad, except for the fact that he's Homegrown.

I'd rather save the wages we would have to pay Milner and focus on signing a top-class midfielder

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I think Ramires is a better player simple because he is world class in a certain aspect of his game that is hard to find. Milner is just average in everything. Because of that i feel Ramires will hardly ever be out of place in a high end game and when everything clicks together for Ramires he can be a world class player on his day.

So when it comes to balancing a team Ramires would be a better fit, Milner doesn't really give you anything of what you need.