Leif 6,006 Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 No he isnt LOL! Can you actually explain these things? An opinion without an explanation is so hard to understand on forums and that's where insults come flying in. Explain how Piazon isn't like Hazard instead of laughing it off.Explain with tangibles, facts, statistics and the likes as to how Sneijder would be a 'backwards' signing.You can't just call people idiots or assume they're wrong because their opinion differs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Really? Would he have played out wide? Then who would be on the bench as back up when Ba is starting? Who would be back up for Torres in the Europa League? It's shocking how much you're revealing about yourself and I mean that in the most sincere and constructive way possible. I'm not trying to seem disrespectful but everything you're posting is full of fallacies about a player it's becoming evident you don't even watch.You also mention Marin there... I can't even comment on that.I've probably taken your post too literal. It has to be a joke, especially when I reconsider the fact you used the clown face. Sorry if so.Your way to ignorant to understand! dont worry! let me try and simplify things for you.So if Mata was out of the equation Oscar or Hazard would have been our number 10 not Benayoun!we would have lined up like this - PL games -Moses - Oscar - HazardBaEuropa League games - Moses - Oscar - HazardTorresthen if someone like Oscar got injured we still would have had more option like thisMoses - Hazard - Marin/BenayounTorres/Baand if we anyone else got injured then Torres could have played out wide in extreme circumstances! I know its hard for you to understand but i hope that helps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Your way to ignorant to understand!This is why you're not taken seriously. Also it's You're* & Too*. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 People say "Oscar should be a pivot player!!!". Alright then. When he's in this magical 'pivot' and Hazard/Mata/Schurrle or whoever are starting, who exactly comes on for Mata? Who plays for Mata when he's injured? Currently we would have De Bruyne. That's it. And it's looking more likely that he'll not be here next season.So again - Why is £5m worth of depth in a well decorated player who's known to be his best under Jose being dismissed? He'd cost less than Raul Meireles for god sake.Exactly. The simple fact is we don't know what we're going to do next season, so you have to build in a lot of 'what ifs' to this discussion. Some people are quite prepared to say they simply don't know, but that under certain circumstances it does make sense. Others are happy to dismiss it out of hand which is just ridiculous in my opinion.Price is not the problem, how much will his wage be?That's the key point for me. We won't pay over the odds for him and he might be at a point where top-class football means more to him than a paycheque. If he's got that hunger then he's got to be looked at.The fear is he becomes another Benayoun and that's a fair point, but I really don't think we're the type of club to get into that type of mess again. Mata and Hazard are the future - this guy is at best a great squad player which is something we lacked last year.We're getting rid of Malouda, Benayoun and probably Marin so there will be gaps in the team and a cut-price Sneijder under Mourinho could be a real bargain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Can you actually explain these things? An opinion without an explanation is so hard to understand on forums and that's where insults come flying in. Explain how Piazon isn't like Hazard instead of laughing it off.Explain with tangibles, facts, statistics and the likes as to how Sneijder would be a 'backwards' signing.You can't just call people idiots or assume they're wrong because their opinion differs. Haha thats rich coming from you who cant back up anything you say! Piazon's favoured position is playing as a second striker, he can also play as a striker or out wide or as a number 10! he is a versatile player. his best position imo is as a second striker, similar to the likes of Bergkamp or Del Piero except Piazon has more pace. But he is still young and is yet to fully prove what his best position is. But saying he is like Hazard because he likes to cut inside??? is certainly not how i would describe him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 This is why you're not taken seriously. Also it's You're* & Too*.du u really fink your bein taken seriously? your argument to sign Sneijder is laughable! why dont you post more youtube videos or tell us that He was good in 2010 again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 your argument I'm not arguing lol He was good in 2010 again! You have me confused with someone else. I haven't really touched on his time in 2010. I've been discussing the player he currently is. The player you currently don't watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Piazon's favoured position is playing as a second striker So how is an attacking midfielder in a system which doesn't use 2 strikers going to affect him? he can also play as a striker No. No he can't. Unless you think Mata or De Bruyne etc. can also play as a striker. similar to the likes of Bergkamp or Del Piero ............................. except Piazon has more pace Not more than an in-prime Del Piero but the 38 year old version, sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 You have me confused with someone else. I haven't really touched on his time in 2010. I've been discussing the player he currently is. The player you currently don't watch. I have seen alot of him this season actually and as i said before he would be decent for a team like Everton or Swansea, he has had a poor season, so if you cant see that then your clearly havent seen him play much have you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 I have seen alot of him this season actually and as i said before he would be decent for a team like Everton or Swansea "Like Everton or Swansea".One of those teams is all about tackles, bullying the opposition, being physical, having less possession and hoping to score on the counter-attack.The other team is a possession-based team who rarely lose the ball, rely on slick passing and flair, are more direct and almost try and walk the ball into the goal.Neither of these teams utilise a #10 by the way.What are you on about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Ok so you are stupid then. I am fully aware of how many games Oscar and hazard played! but you said who was Mata's backup and mentioned Benayoun so do you really think if Mata missed the last 3 months of the season for example that Benayoun would have been our number 10??? LOOOL of course not Hazard or Oscar would have played there instead with Moses/Marin/Benayoun/Torres playing out wide! LOLLOOOLLOOOLLOOOOOOLLOOOOOOLLOOOOOOLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLSee how fucking annoying that is? You Parrot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Price is not the problem, how much will his wage be?Tbf, I don't think his wages are that high. I remember something like 5m per year when he moved to Gala.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cujo101 75 Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Very good player but not that keen as the team has other priorities like a quality defensive midfielder, backup goalkeeper & of course striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 I think his wages are currently around £95k a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 So how is an attacking midfielder in a system which doesn't use 2 strikers going to affect him?No. No he can't. Unless you think Mata or De Bruyne etc. can also play as a striker..............................Not more than an in-prime Del Piero but the 38 year old version, sure.deary me! this is getting very tedious! at the end of the day the main topic is Sneijder not Piazon! why dont you back up with some facts why he would be a good signing to rot on the bench for us and maybe get a few games in the Coc cup?If his name wasn't sneijder and you looked at his performances since 2011 would you think he would be a good signing? or that he even deserves to be linked with any top club in Europe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fAnta 107 Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 So how is an attacking midfielder in a system which doesn't use 2 strikers going to affect him?In all fairness sneijder's best position is also a second striker: "I don't like playing in central midfield at all,I like to be further forward closer to goal … better a second striker than a central midfielder."Under Mourinho it was almost the same dictating play in the more forward position creating chances galore for Milito,Pandev, eto'o etc. Having said that he has been on a remarkable decline since 2010 and that cant be understated after seeing the heights he was at in 2010. There's a reason all the big teams all of sudden changed their minds in buying him but under Mourinho, the man who always reveres him as instilling him with the condifence to play "against the rest of the world" his form could change but this is all hypothetically speaking very easy but as we know with Torres it really isn't. still if mou wants him for a few mill i wouldn't mind it but he will not be a starting player with mata,hazard and oscar all higher in the pecking order. honestly i'd wouldn;t mind a player like sneijder but he is not priority. Let's go and get a dm and a striker before we look to stock up in postitons we are quite blessed with already.infact i doubt the veracity of this info its easy to put this article together with mou joining a club but i doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 LOLLOOOLLOOOLLOOOOOOLLOOOOOOLLOOOOOOLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLSee how fucking annoying that is? You Parrot.not annoying at all! aww angry are you because your anther one who cant back up anything he says! LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nono 791 Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 I don't really think he'll come since we need a central midfielder more. This is just lazy journalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 How did Sneijder play as a second-striker though when his current club has 2 strikers ahead of him and he was used to 2 strikers ahead of him in Milito and Eto'o? Sneijder is a third-striker now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 "Like Everton or Swansea".One of those teams is all about tackles, bullying the opposition, being physical, having less possession and hoping to score on the counter-attack.The other team is a possession-based team who rarely lose the ball, rely on slick passing and flair, are more direct and almost try and walk the ball into the goal.Neither of these teams utilise a #10 by the way.What are you on about? Haha having less possession yet Everton kept more possession than Chelsea at Stamford Bridge! you do realise they are getting a new manager dont you and will most likely play a more possession based game next season under possibly Martinez! and as for Swansea they would suit Sneijder well a mediocre team who can pass the ball well, they can stick him in the hole and be happy with his average performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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