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6 minutes ago, lucio said:

Potter used enzo better than Poch for sure 

Didn't Enzo have alot more experience around him last season compared to this one? You have done an entire 360 and come back to my actual point.

So we are no better position wise really than last season, but we have lost the likes of kova jorgi Kante Reece James (injury) rlc azi, the entire back bone of the squad as it were, and replaced it with kids.

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1 minute ago, YorkshireBlue said:

Didn't Enzo have alot more experience around him last season compared to this one? You have done an entire 360 and come back to my actual point.

 

he did have more experience but the back 3 system also would have helped , which I argued would have been a better bet for poch this season. 

one thing which Poch can’t control is Caicedo being signed because he’s just a horrific footballer with 0 potential who has hamstrung the team and enzo 

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Just now, lucio said:

 

he did have more experience but the back 3 system also would have helped , which I argued would have been a better bet for poch this season. 

one thing which Poch can’t control is Caicedo being signed because he’s just a horrific footballer with 0 potential who has hamstrung the team and enzo 

See that's the one argument I'd deffo make against Poch, caicedo is been asked to do far to much and is been relied on far to much, what he does well gets completely overshadowed by the mistakes he's basically forced to make.

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2 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

See that's the one argument I'd deffo make against Poch, caicedo is been asked to do far to much and is been relied on far to much, what he does well gets completely overshadowed by the mistakes he's basically forced to make.

Even under no pressure he can barely make a good pass though , just isn’t talented. Mediocre passing range and first touch. Even if you watch his Brighton highlights it isn’t full of great passing 

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1 minute ago, lucio said:

Even under no pressure he can barely make a good pass though , just isn’t talented. Mediocre passing range and first touch. Even if you watch his Brighton highlights it isn’t full of great passing 

I'm not to arsed about the passing, he should have players around him to do that stuff, I want him doing what we should be doing best which is winning the ball back or closing lanes, as far as the post above, I think poch could actually do well with a team of decent players, if he could get us playing like his spurs team, I wouldn't have no issues at all, there were ruthless aggressive and played very good football.

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2 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

I'm not to arsed about the passing, he should have players around him to do that stuff, I want him doing what we should be doing best which is winning the ball back or closing lanes, as far as the post above, I think poch could actually do well with a team of decent players, if he could get us playing like his spurs team, I wouldn't have no issues at all, there were ruthless aggressive and played very good football.

Big clubs like city and Barca won’t tolerate midfielders who can’t pass let alone break records to sign them 

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Just now, lucio said:

Big clubs like city and Barca won’t tolerate midfielders who can’t pass let alone break records to sign them 

Kante wasn't a great passer but he did what he needed to very well, I'd take a prime kante all day long, if your recruiting is right you can get the destroyer in and the passers, city don't need the destroyer because they constantly have the ball, but not having one has damaged them in some games as well.

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I wouldn't underestimate the manager's role.

Sure, he doesn't play, but it's manager's job to give a team an edge - some players flourish under right managers and are shit with others, either due to motivational skills or purely tactical ones like knowing how to use the players best assets (Rudiger, Jorgi were good only under one manager not without a reason). It's managers role to see and trust the players with potential and it's a manager who enables the synergy of the squad. Finally, it's a manager who imposes the mentality of the entire team and it's a crucial point sometimes. Let alone the tactical ingenuity that sometimes means winning with much stronger rival or turning the game around.

In our case, I'd admit our two CL wins largely to manager's input, we weren't exactly galacticos, especially with Tuchel's roster. He made the team believe they can go for it at some point.

Anyway, the point I wanted to make is that the club pretty literally told Nagelsmann, Amorim (so I find this rumor bs) and who knows who else they are not good enough compared to Poch, so I pretty much doubt they will come here. And judging by Clearlake's actions and ideas I'm genuinely concerned of who they could replace Pochettino with, so we have to take this into account as well - it won't be a logical choice out of elite managers.

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Just now, YorkshireBlue said:

Kante wasn't a great passer but he did what he needed to very well, I'd take a prime kante all day long, if your recruiting is right you can get the destroyer in and the passers, city don't need the destroyer because they constantly have the ball, but not having one has damaged them in some games as well.

They had Fernandinho who was a lot more efficient on the ball than caicedo.

kante wasn’t the best passer yes but way better than caicedo , he also had great pace and acceleration which caicedo does not have 

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