The Next Manager?

[bluephoenix 1,131]

Let's face it, there will never be another Sir Alex Ferguson at a big club again. Managers don't last more than 3 or 4 seasons at such a club in modern football and if a manager happens to stay that long or longer, there's a high chance that his message, voice etc won't have the same impact on the players as before. We saw it with Guardiola at Barcelona, Klopp at Dortmund and those two seem to be experiencing the same issue perhaps right now at Man City and Liverpool respectively for example.
I don't think it's the players who are dictating the manager's fate this time. We no longer have a group of players with a big ego and all that. The main problem we have now is Lampard. It's all good preaching patience and I don't think anyone is against it but we also need to see progression on the pitch. Lampard can't be spending over 200 million on new players and have us doing worse than last season - e.g. being 3 points worse off than at the same stage last season. We are also 18 months, not 18 weeks, into his tenure at the club and we have no real style of play, no identity, no clear tactical idea of what we are trying to do on the pitch. It's alarming to see that our football was more enjoyable in Lampard's first 6 months than all the nonsense thrown up since then. We can't have players like Ziyech, Havertz, Werner, Pulisic etc and then have the team just spam high crosses into the box (I really want to know what did Lampard say to Havertz/Werner/Ziyech when he persuaded them to join us because I don't believe for one second that 'spamming crosses' football is the vision he sold to them). That's not modern football. That's football from the 90s. That's football played by sides like Burnley and West Brom, not a big club with the ambition to win big titles. We also can't be yo-yo-ing between two extremes in our performances after 18 months under Lampard. When we are good, we are good but when we are bad, we are very bad. There doesn't seem to be a middle ground with us. How many draws or defeats under Lampard can we really say "yeah, we played well in that game but were unlucky not to win because we didn't our chances etc"? Granted they aren't wins but every draw and every defeat under Lampard has felt very demoralizing. It always feels like we are going backwards whenever we draw or lose. Lampard said the aim is to close the gap on Liverpool and Man City but based on recent evidence, we look to be even further away from those two and that can't be happening after spending all the money that we have in the summer. 
On top of that, Lampard's inexperience and failure to react or learn from his mistakes quickly are also proving to be a problem. Inexperience can be excused if that person is a quick learner but Lampard doesn't seem to realize it or capable of it. For example, it's clear that the 4-3-3 hasn't been working for weeks now but nothing has changed. He still tries to play the system, play players that don't necessarily fit the system and just hope it will work. It's maddening. Or another example, we consistently pick up random injuries (mostly muscle related) after a free week and we tend to play badly in games after a free week because Lampard is seemingly overtraining the players but neither he nor his coaching staff seem to be noticing that trend/problem. Lampard has just kept going with it despite the same issue appearing every time. Then there's also the fact that his in-game management is questionable. He doesn't react quickly enough to opposition's tactical changes or when they are dominating us and the team need help/guidance/leadership. His changes lately have also been almost like-for-like, a bit like what Sarri used to do with Kovacic-Barkley sub etc. It's bad enough that Lampard is inexperienced and is facing all this situation and problems the first time but it's also compounded by the fact that his coaching staff are also inexperienced at the highest level. Lampard has no one to fall back on and ask for advice when the going gets tough. Combine that with a young/inexperienced team like ours, it's essentially the blind leading the blind. 

Makes sense!

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[Tomo 21,751]

19 hours ago, ZaynChelsea said:

Sorry, I introduced him here in a very strong manner. 
 

We are Chelsea -  we have a remarkable pull towards a coach of Southampton. It‘s not impossible that he comes to us - especially as someone who loves to work with youngsters, Furthermore, Hasenhüttl already trained Werner at Leipzig. So why not a reunion?

I'm sorry but last night's actions put me off him, it's so small time to act like that over a mere 3 points even against the Champions.

[Trueblue9877 6]

I hope Tuchel signs a new contract soon, he came in and saved our season.

[Vesper 30,084]

On 05/01/2021 at 19:34, Tomo said:

I'm sorry but last night's actions put me off him, it's so small time to act like that over a mere 3 points even against the Champions.

It was not beating Pool, it was finally beating Klopp. Long history there. 20 years or so.

[NikkiCFC 8,286]

On 03/01/2021 at 20:52, killer1257 said:

Hassenhüttl has PL experience and is a decent coach. Tuchel is a huge risk for many reasons. Poch would have been my first choice, but he is gone

Thanks God he was gone!

Also should not this thread be locked?

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

1 hour ago, NikkiCFC said:

Thanks God he was gone!

Also should not this thread be locked?

Only when he signs that new contract. I really hope the club don’t bottle this. I understand them being cautious with the 18 months contract at first but if they don’t see how this is a match made in heaven by now they are lost. 

[Fernando 6,585]

11 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

Only when he signs that new contract. I really hope the club don’t bottle this. I understand them being cautious with the 18 months contract at first but if they don’t see how this is a match made in heaven by now they are lost. 

Probably but we did the same with Mourinho and Conte. 

I think we should extend his contract for one more year. He was giving 18 months plus one year option of extension. 

Give him that and then see after that. No need to do the same, because for some reason managers here after you give them a long extension they go down! 

[Tomo 21,751]

I never understood why Pochettino was the majority's first choice.

[Atomiswave 6,117]

4 hours ago, Tomo said:

I never understood why Pochettino was the majority's first choice.

I admit I was one of them, he did so well with that Spurs team, but as others said thank God PSG went for him just in time.

[Tomo 21,751]

26 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

I admit I was one of them, he did so well with that Spurs team, but as others said thank God PSG went for him just in time.

He's a good coach when it comes to improving player's but I feel he's overrated as a full package.

He never reacts to opposition managers making in game changes (main two examples last week vs City and against Allegri a few years back), his youth record is a myth, his transfer record is diabolical and his style is too reliant on forcing opponent error although admittedly on song his teams are very good at it.