Chelsea 1 - 1 RB Salzburg

[YorkshireBlue 3,298]

3 minutes ago, DDA said:

Broja needs to start from now on, no excuses. 

Azpi is done, what did he do that Fofana can't? I know Fofana may have had a better chance at closing the gap to the fella who scored, that's for sure. Azpi saw he was there but didn't have the legs to press or try and cut the ball out.. like I say he's done.

Havertz needs to be dropped for the foreseeable future. 

We actually played pretty well in that game but their goal was a result in a lapse of concentration from all involved with Silva lunging into a tackle that didn't need lunging into. 

We attacked with intent and had promising moments... 

The sheer idiocy of people already damming Potter after a week in charge makes me feel ashamed of our own to be honest. 

Need to rally together and support this man. Let him do his work.. 

Good thing about this game is, the players showed potter more than he would of seen in training.

[Vesper 30,291]

for years we relied on Kante

now we pay the price as his body unwinds

[Vesper 30,291]

we are insane if we renew him for 4 years

[YorkshireBlue 3,298]

1 minute ago, Vesper said:

for years we relied on Kante

now we pay the price as his body unwinds

Chelsea for atleast the 15 years has always had that power house in midfield that solid CDM which now we are lacking for the first time.

[Vegetable 830]

4 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

After the last CL under TT did u see is winning that game under him? 

I don't see us losing it and, after all, we won CL under him, so why not? We can only speculate now, it's not like TT or Lamps would get us relegated, things do change around in football. 

I understand You are 100% into Potter, but today we didn't play with different formation, idea, subs, squad or mentality like we used to under TT, so personally I don't see a reason to be optimistic and consider the crisis being on the way to be solved for now.

[whats happening 1,633]

this place is even worse than our matches.

[YorkshireBlue 3,298]

1 minute ago, Vegetable said:

I don't see us losing it and, after all, we won CL under him, so why not? We can only speculate now, it's not like TT or Lamps would get us relegated, things do change around in football. 

I understand You are 100% into Potter, but today we didn't play with different formation, idea, subs, squad or mentality like we used to under TT, so personally I don't see a reason to be optimistic and consider the crisis being on the way to be solved for now.

Our attack was so much better today, don't really see how u didn't  see a change in setup it's was vastly different today, mentality takes weeks to change especially with confidence at a all time low, we won the CL under Di Matteo aswell so let's not go there, unfortunately TT has to take majority of the blame for this team been how it is.

[Vesper 30,291]

21 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

Chelsea for atleast the 15 years has always had that power house in midfield that solid CDM which now we are lacking for the first time.

It is why I ranted about Tchou for ages, we missed a massive trick last summer

and now will do the same with Moisés Caicedo and Kouadio Koné

fuck this crazed Rice obsession

the bloke doesn't give a fuck about coming to Chels and West Ham will never past with him next summer for less than £125-150m I wager

Zakaria had best come good in a massive way

Edson Álvarez is NOT Chels quality, laughable IMHO to think he is the answer, especially for £50m, he lacks pace and is not technical, he is flat track donkey league bully

 

Edited September 14, 2022 by Vesper

[Vegetable 830]

1 minute ago, YorkshireBlue said:

Our attack was so much better today, don't really see how u didn't  see a change in setup it's was vastly different today, mentality takes weeks to change especially with confidence at a all time low, we won the CL under Di Matteo aswell so let's not go there, unfortunately TT has to take majority of the blame for this team been how it is.

Our attack was not converting chances, so product-wise no difference, and the team not being clinical - geezus, I hear it since pre-Sarri at best. Today we did the usual thing, offensive and defensive wise. 

As I said - I don't care for Potter himself, for me it's all on and about Boehly and managing a club. However if he tried risking it all with radically different squad and some clever formation idea intstead of smooth takeover I'd be more sold on his attempt, but it doesn't matter. And I think the mentality issue is bit overblown - I guess it was way worse under late Lampard than now. 

Just ask Yourself - what would You read in this thread if we got the same result with TT?

I don't care for us looking decent against way worse club - I care for us not dropping from CL for now. A good manger must need to know what to do, and will see what he does, but if under Potter things will go the same way with usual "players x and y bad, most expensive transfers in history bad, mentality bad", I'm just fed up with it. Like seriously, there are worse teams than us, doing way better. 

[MoroccanBlue 5,384]

28 minutes ago, DDA said:

Broja needs to start from now on, no excuses. 

Azpi is done, what did he do that Fofana can't? I know Fofana may have had a better chance at closing the gap to the fella who scored, that's for sure. Azpi saw he was there but didn't have the legs to press or try and cut the ball out.. like I say he's done.

Havertz needs to be dropped for the foreseeable future. 

We actually played pretty well in that game but their goal was a result in a lapse of concentration from all involved with Silva lunging into a tackle that didn't need lunging into. 

We attacked with intent and had promising moments... 

The sheer idiocy of people already damming Potter after a week in charge makes me feel ashamed of our own to be honest. 

Need to rally together and support this man. Let him do his work.. 

I mean if Havertz, Azpi, Mount or the same usual suspects continue to get minutes it really is difficult for the bold to happen. 

 

[Mhsc 1,109]

Missing a player that is dangerous shooting from range imo. Who do we have that can change the game from distance?

Feel like we concede a lot of beautiful goals from outside of the box and score 0.

Interesting he went for super experienced CBs at the back, makes sense in a way for your first game but we’ve got to drop Azpi sadly. Legend but he’s done playing at this level.

Feel like Potter will get them playing better. Looking forward to the next few months tbh. 

[Superblue 6,372]

Surprised people can see a lot of positives in the attacking play tonight. I thought we were overall pretty poor again tonight, it's just so slow and ponderous far too often, I find myself literally screaming at them for some urgency.

I thought once we scored the goal there might be a reaction but it's back to a lax approach again and ultimately as usual we're punished by their one real chance. But really we should be doing far more to get a second goal and kill the game off. 

I point absolutely no fingers at Potter, he's been here literally days but tonight should highlight to him just what a job he has on his hands where expectations are high but the mentality running throughout the squad is abysmal. 

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

We should also keep in mind this was Salzburg. One of the worst teams we will face all seasons. Their combined market value is pretty much the same as Bournemouth’s, the worst team in PL. 

[MoroccanBlue 5,384]

6 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

We should also keep in mind this was Salzburg. One of the worst teams we will face all seasons. Their combined market value is pretty much the same as Bournemouth’s, the worst team in PL. 

and they were missing like 4 starters. 

[OneMoSalah 8,888]

Will say it again, a lot of the players need to take a long hard look at themselves. Underperforming is one thing but some of them clearly aren’t that bothered and it shows.

Only one game for GP but I am struggling to see what more he can really squeeze out of players like Havertz, Ziyech, Pulisic, Loftus-Cheek that Tuchel couldn’t. It is clear they aren’t going to be players we can rely on this season. Auba isn’t going to get goals with the service we seen tonight. Our attack needed at least another top level wide forward and although we got Aubamayang this summer, we are still going to be short up top solely relying on him and Sterling to get the goals. 

I am also baffled GP said that the effort and application was there tonight, we didn’t really play with any more urgency on or off the ball than we have done at any point this season. I hope he’s going to be a bit sterner behind the scenes with some of them. 

16 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

We should also keep in mind this was Salzburg. One of the worst teams we will face all seasons. Their combined market value is pretty much the same as Bournemouth’s, the worst team in PL. 

The supposed market value of a side means nothing. Particularly when you don’t do the basics against them well as a team ie winning headers, duels, running/pressing etc. 

Edited September 14, 2022 by OneMoSalah

[Fernando 6,595]

First game, it's okay if it doesn't go well. 

Let's see how we are going into the wc. 

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

18 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Will say it again, a lot of the players need to take a long hard look at themselves. Underperforming is one thing but some of them clearly aren’t that bothered and it shows.

Only one game for GP but I am struggling to see what more he can really squeeze out of players like Havertz, Ziyech, Pulisic, Loftus-Cheek that Tuchel couldn’t. It is clear they aren’t going to be players we can rely on this season. Auba isn’t going to get goals with the service we seen tonight. Our attack needed at least another top level wide forward and although we got Aubamayang this summer, we are still going to be short up top solely relying on him and Sterling to get the goals. 

I am also baffled GP said that the effort and application was there tonight, we didn’t really play with any more urgency on or off the ball than we have done at any point this season. I hope he’s going to be a bit sterner behind the scenes with some of them. 

The supposed market value of a side means nothing. Particularly when you don’t do the basics against them well as a team ie winning headers, duels, running/pressing etc. 

I agree. The market value is flattering Salzburg a lot when they are missing starters and also given the fact that German and Austrian players are usually overrated as tm is  mostly operated by Germans and Austrians 

i was just using it as means to show that Salzburg are a team we should make light work of not just playing ok, creating chances etc. the majority of the players are done. Not physically but mentally. It is normal for TT teams to burn out mentally after a few years but usually not this soon. So far GP has not had the time to rejuvenate them but this today  has not exactly given hope he even can. I’m not blaming him for not making an instant impact but the lineup he put out today was an absolute disaster, he hardly could have picked a worse team. 
we should also not put too much hope in Auba . He is just a tragic, finished player and will hardly score any goals for us.

 

[Blues11 213]

If he’s going to go with a lone striker it has to be Broja. Dude makes darting runs and actually has a physical presence about him. Let the young kid play. 

Auba just isn’t that guy anymore, think Auba can help as a super sub or playing next to someone. 

[Blue Armour 4,461]

5 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

What the hell happened over the summer?

We lost Abramovich?

Face it. 

There are a lot of questions about the current Chelsea. Its no surprise that we failed so miserably to attract first choice targets.

There will be doubts about the clubs ambition, with the new regime taking over. Its absolutely imperative we finish in the top 4 in their first season to show that we still have the same edge.

And this is why I did not want the added doubt of Potter replacing Tuchel, especially so soon.. It just adds to the list uncertainties.

[Blue Armour 4,461]

4 hours ago, YorkshireBlue said:

I genuinely believe we finish second in this group, new man needs time to get the ideas across and build confidence, far to early to be pressing panic buttons

Despite the current state of the team, I agree. If we win at least one of the legs against Milan, and at least draw the other one, I would fancy our chances to finish second.