Graham Potter Thread

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

Shit interview.

[robsblubot 3,595]

28 minutes ago, Vegetable said:

This is something that bugs me. This "project", especially after previous two windows and potential third being big pretty much hangs on CL money. I thought missing on Europe this year is pretty much a disaster and reduces the transfer ambitions already due to FFP, but twice? We'd be pretty much forced to start from scratch and it will have an impact on us for years. I'm sure they simulated this variant as one of many, but how probable they thought it was?

Yeah I think there 2 main disagreements in this thread: One about whether Potter deserved the shot or not--I personally think he has not done enough simple as.

The second, is that I don't think some folks here understand, or perhaps don't accept, what Chelsea (club) is these days. I hear folks talking about a long-term project as if Chelsea had the luxury of burning seasons in name of some way of play, of a philosophy, or conducting the business. These are acquired over years and years of consistent decision making. We DID have a DNA as a club under Abramovich. It may not have been the DNA folks wanted, but there was one.

Now, think about sponsorships, prize money, the ability to acquire as well as *retain* talent... How can someone think a club like Chelsea isn't *constantly* under pressure to win is beyond me.

Edited February 18, 2023 by robsblubot

[MoroccanBlue 5,375]

Enrique as Interim anyone?

[DDA 9,924]

I'm actually seeing a large part of our dumb ass fanbase calling for Mourinho to come back.

If that happens... it would be the most backwards move you could make with the investment into youth that has been made.

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

Bring back Tuchel 🤣

[MoroccanBlue 5,375]

2 minutes ago, DDA said:

I'm actually seeing a large part of our dumb ass fanbase calling for Mourinho to come back.

If that happens... it would be the most backwards move you could make with the investment into youth that has been made.

Going back to the toxic ex-girlfriend syndrome. 

[Pizy 18,846]

If there were signs you could point to that  ___ is getting better game after game or we were seeing recognizable patterns of play and passing moves that made it clear that Potter’s ideas were being imprinted on the squad I could understand the reluctance to sack him.

But we aren’t showing improvement at all week after week. And he doesn’t seem to get angry, annoyed, demonstrative. Nothing. Just a constant blank expression on the sideline and total nonsense cliché’s like “we did well but we’re unlucky and need to get better” in every single presser. 

You look at Pep, Klopp, Arteta, Ten Hag etc and they are maniacal in their ideas and obsessed. They often scream at their teams from the touchline and direct them if they’re doing something wrong. They get every player on the pitch knowing precisely what their job is. This is what we need. 

[Hamilton 2,120]

If he would have more experience Kompany would be a possibility, he is the guy who hits the table at half time in a game like today 

Edited February 18, 2023 by Hamilton

[Gundalf 805]

27 minutes ago, robsblubot said:

We DID have a DNA as a club under Abramovich. It may not have been the DNA folks wanted, but there was one.

Now, think about sponsorships, prize money, the ability to acquire as well as *retain* talent... How can someone think a club like Chelsea isn't *constantly* under pressure to win is beyond me.

So what was the DNA? Just look at the coaches and the styles of play we had in the last couple of years.

We had Conte, a very emotional manager who tried to motivate the players a lot from the sidelines and had a lot of passion - focussing on pressing and powerful counterattacking, prefering experienced players.

Then we went on to Sarri, a rather calm but tactical guy, focussing on positional and combination play with a lot of possession.

Then we went on to Lampard, a very inexperienced coach but young and hungry, new generation of coaches, club legend trying to have a bigger bond between manager and fans, trying to implement a lot of youth players.

 

So 3 managers, 3 different types of personality, age and coaching style and 3 different philosophies of who and how to play on the pitch. Thats not a DNA. 

Edited February 18, 2023 by Gundalf

[TheHulk 2,400]

14 minutes ago, Hamilton said:

If he would have more experience Kompany would be a possibility, he is the guy who hits the table at half time in a game like today 

Yeah can subscribe to this.

[TheHulk 2,400]

29 minutes ago, DDA said:

I'm actually seeing a large part of our dumb ass fanbase calling for Mourinho to come back.

If that happens... it would be the most backwards move you could make with the investment into youth that has been made.

This is normal because we've hit rock bottom anyone outside Potter and you upgrade massively immediately.

[Vesper 30,079]

12 minutes ago, Hamilton said:

If he would have more experience Kompany would be a possibility, he is the guy who hits the table at half time in a game like today 

If Kompany keeps progressing, surely Citeh will start to look at him as Pep's potential successor

[OneMoSalah 8,883]

That interview, about making changes, wow. The guy is just deluded. We were hopelessly and hilariously outplayed by a team who are 20th.

The longer Boehly and co back this guy will only be more detrimental to this clubs long term success. Barring a few good January signings their repeated faith in this guy is laughable and makes me very very nervous. How far will they let us fall off the cliff? 

Edited February 18, 2023 by OneMoSalah

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

[Bren 41]

3 minutes ago, xPetrCechx said:

Not surprising. They might come to their senses as the atmosphere at games deteriorates even further. It's going to be a bumpy rest of the season.

On Potter. What a clueless non-entity. Just some guy who won the lottery. 

[Hashishi 148]

We are effed. Unless a world class manager becomes availible by this summer. Having to stick with potter for another season would be so detrimental to the squad and would get us in trouble with FFP (like we already aren't, 90% of our signings are pure shit and half of those are on long term contracts).

It may take a long time to recover from this. We are missing out on UCL revenue next season and if the board persist with Potter it may well be for the season after that as well. Noone is going to want to touch our club until we can prove we can develop them.

[Hamilton 2,120]

25 minutes ago, Vesper said:

If Kompany keeps progressing, surely Citeh will start to look at him as Pep's potential successor

Yeah I think it will be his destiny eventually.. 

[robsblubot 3,595]

1 hour ago, Gundalf said:

So what was the DNA? Just look at the coaches and the styles of play we had in the last couple of years.

We had Conte, a very emotional manager who tried to motivate the players a lot from the sidelines and had a lot of passion - focussing on pressing and powerful counterattacking, prefering experienced players.

Then we went on to Sarri, a rather calm but tactical guy, focussing on positional and combination play with a lot of possession.

Then we went on to Lampard, a very inexperienced coach but young and hungry, new generation of coaches, club legend trying to have a bigger bond between manager and fans, trying to implement a lot of youth players.

 

So 3 managers, 3 different types of personality, age and coaching style and 3 different philosophies of who and how to play on the pitch. Thats not a DNA. 

Different things right? the way of playing is indeed tied to manager AND players. In my view only perhaps 3-4 managers employ a particular style of play (some share similar/same style too), the most obvious one is Pep with the high line and 100% possession football.

I think aside from these very specific managers, you won't get what you want and I cannot fathom why someone would think Potter would be able to deliver that considering there is nothing remarkable about his teams (like Brighton). Don't think Potter is that much more experienced than Lampard either -- they both have accomplished very little in football as managers. Literally ANYONE can make a group of good players perform well. The tricky part is always always winning!

The ruthlessness we had, precisely with the constant pressure and sacking, was the *club's* DNA. Evidently not the one you like, but I personally, think there are many ways of playing and winning in football. And once again, I don't see why Potter has to be the chosen one to take us to wherever the new owner wants to go. They both look pretty lost to me.

Edited February 18, 2023 by robsblubot