Graham Potter Thread

[NikkiCFC 8,334]

Biggest question is what he can do with our attack? Just this year from February to April Brighton didn't scored in 7 games in a row except one corner. 

[Pizy 18,944]

So weird how we’ve appointed a new manager with all this commotion and not even going to see him presented or have him do a presser for days? And his first match is going to be thrown in to a must win CL game.

[Special Juan 28,141]

Be great for him to have the CL as his first game- More than winnable, at home, get off to a great start with the crowd right behind him.

I have said it before and will say it again, I'm excited by this.

[Superblue 6,372]

1 hour ago, NikkiCFC said:

Biggest question is what he can do with our attack? Just this year from February to April Brighton didn't scored in 7 games in a row except one corner. 

On the flip side of that I believe during 2022 Brighton have had the 5th highest XG in the league, which includes being above ourselves and United.

So it would suggest goal scoring issues have probably been more down to personnel than chances being created.

He's going to have a completely different task here, he'll find teams won't be as open against us as they were against Brighton. One of the things I hope he can get back into the side is aggressive pressing when we don't have the ball. We lost it with Lukaku last season and we've been really poor with it with the exception of the Spurs game this season. 

[YorkshireBlue 3,279]

21 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

On the flip side of that I believe during 2022 Brighton have had the 5th highest XG in the league, which includes being above ourselves and United.

So it would suggest goal scoring issues have probably been more down to personnel than chances being created.

He's going to have a completely different task here, he'll find teams won't be as open against us as they were against Brighton. One of the things I hope he can get back into the side is aggressive pressing when we don't have the ball. We lost it with Lukaku last season and we've been really poor with it with the exception of the Spurs game this season. 

The spurs game still puzzles me. We looked excellent pressing was great our general play was better than we have seen in ages.

[Superblue 6,372]

20 minutes ago, Kong said:

The spurs game still puzzles me. We looked excellent pressing was great our general play was better than we have seen in ages.

I said at the time that has to be the minimum now we've shown what we could do - play like that and we'd win most games through the season but Leeds was the acid test to see if we could produce it again and it simply didn't happen.

Whether it was the players, Tuchel or a combination of the two, there is definitely a mentality issue within the group because we were capable of raising performances when we needed to and performing in big games, even if on a rotten run of form. Definitely needs to be something for GP to work out.

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

7 hours ago, Superblue_1986 said:

That quote is alarming re the board/owners/those at the helm’s ideas about managers getting chances at elite clubs after “failing” at other clubs.

I mean do these owners really have any idea about football? Not just elsewhere, specifically here. Have they not done any research into the hire and culture here from the past regime? And how elite level managers have gone and done after being sacked here for instance?

I cannot think of many of the supposed elite level managers who after having been sacked, failed or left here in whatever circumstances, that haven’t gone on and achieved something significant elsewhere. I mean Mourinho, Ancelotti, Benitez, Mourinho again, Conte and Sarri all won trophies elsewhere and got big jobs after here.

I really am getting more and more worried about Boehly and Clearlake with the amount of sheer nonsense thats come to light in the last few days. Really am. It seems as if they’ve came from Mars and are alien to almost everything that seems to be the norm in football.

[YorkshireBlue 3,279]

8 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

That quote is alarming re the board/owners/those at the helm’s ideas about managers getting chances at elite clubs after “failing” at other clubs.

I mean do these owners really have any idea about football? Not just elsewhere, specifically here. Have they not done any research into the hire and culture here from the past regime? And how elite level managers have gone and done after being sacked here for instance?

I cannot think of many of the supposed elite level managers who after having been sacked, failed or left here in whatever circumstances, that haven’t gone on and achieved something significant elsewhere. I mean Mourinho, Ancelotti, Benitez, Mourinho again, Conte and Sarri all won trophies elsewhere and got big jobs after here.

I really am getting more and more worried about Boehly and Clearlake with the amount of sheer nonsense thats come to light in the last few days. Really am. It seems as if they’ve came from Mars and are alien to almost everything that seems to be the norm in football.

I'd look at it this way, there will never be more elite managers if big clubs kept picking from the same fail scrap pile.

[ZAPHOD2319 4,819]

21 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

That quote is alarming re the board/owners/those at the helm’s ideas about managers getting chances at elite clubs after “failing” at other clubs.

I mean do these owners really have any idea about football? Not just elsewhere, specifically here. Have they not done any research into the hire and culture here from the past regime? And how elite level managers have gone and done after being sacked here for instance?

I cannot think of many of the supposed elite level managers who after having been sacked, failed or left here in whatever circumstances, that haven’t gone on and achieved something significant elsewhere. I mean Mourinho, Ancelotti, Benitez, Mourinho again, Conte and Sarri all won trophies elsewhere and got big jobs after here.

I really am getting more and more worried about Boehly and Clearlake with the amount of sheer nonsense thats come to light in the last few days. Really am. It seems as if they’ve came from Mars and are alien to almost everything that seems to be the norm in football.

I am not going to react to quotes that are this ambiguous in nature. Tell me who said it or don't print it. Even if they are from an American football or baseball background, failing at one club gives coaches experience and almost all elite Football head coaches and baseball managers have failed at a big club and went on to have a great run at another. It makes no sense that this is Boehly saying this. 

[Muzchap 8,966]

On 08/09/2022 at 16:40, Duppy Conqueror said:

When i was at the 1997 cup final going mental because Di Matteo scored a screamer in the first minute i didnt consider the keeper picking the ball out of the net would 25 years later become our keepers coach. Good luck to him and the other coaches.Good luck to GP.

What a day that was - last year of Uni and RDM screamer. That and Championship Manager 🤣

[bigbluewillie 1,930]

On 08/09/2022 at 17:34, ZAPHOD2319 said:

Tbf, we have earned the sack a manager title.

To be fair tho bruv.

It aint done us any harm🤐

[Blue Armour 4,448]

11 hours ago, Superblue_1986 said:

I said at the time that has to be the minimum now we've shown what we could do - play like that and we'd win most games through the season but Leeds was the acid test to see if we could produce it again and it simply didn't happen.

Whether it was the players, Tuchel or a combination of the two, there is definitely a mentality issue within the group because we were capable of raising performances when we needed to and performing in big games, even if on a rotten run of form. Definitely needs to be something for GP to work out.

One thing I'm going to miss about Tuchel was his ability to raise the mentality of the squad for the big games (esp the cup ones). Went toe to toe with Liverpool, beat City 3 times in a row in his first season in charge., made it to the finals of nearly all cup games., that too without any real big game player. 

Definitely the best I've seen from Chelsea in that regard ever since Contes first season.

[Blue Armour 4,448]

9 hours ago, Kong said:

I'd look at it this way, there will never be more elite managers if big clubs kept picking from the same fail scrap pile.

It works two ways. There would be probably only 1 or 2 elite managers to choose from if they keep disregarding every manager that has had at least one high profile failure.

 

[milka 3,393]

[YorkshireBlue 3,279]

27 minutes ago, milka said:

Bout time we saw something like this

[Superblue 6,372]

16 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

That quote is alarming re the board/owners/those at the helm’s ideas about managers getting chances at elite clubs after “failing” at other clubs.

I mean do these owners really have any idea about football? Not just elsewhere, specifically here. Have they not done any research into the hire and culture here from the past regime? And how elite level managers have gone and done after being sacked here for instance?

I cannot think of many of the supposed elite level managers who after having been sacked, failed or left here in whatever circumstances, that haven’t gone on and achieved something significant elsewhere. I mean Mourinho, Ancelotti, Benitez, Mourinho again, Conte and Sarri all won trophies elsewhere and got big jobs after here.

I really am getting more and more worried about Boehly and Clearlake with the amount of sheer nonsense thats come to light in the last few days. Really am. It seems as if they’ve came from Mars and are alien to almost everything that seems to be the norm in football.

 

15 hours ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

I am not going to react to quotes that are this ambiguous in nature. Tell me who said it or don't print it. Even if they are from an American football or baseball background, failing at one club gives coaches experience and almost all elite Football head coaches and baseball managers have failed at a big club and went on to have a great run at another. It makes no sense that this is Boehly saying this. 

I think the concept is being taken out of context. The impression I'm getting from this is that they aren't just going to go down the 'easy' route of looking at the tried and trusted coaching options already sat at the top table. I don't think its to say a manager won't be considered because they were sacked from their last job so must have failed in it. But in the case for example of Mourinho in recent times, no matter how great of a coach he has been, would people have considered him after his stints at United and Spurs went horribly wrong?

I think its a means of partially explaining why Potter over Poch. Poch has the experience of big club management but he's hardly been a resounding success. His Spurs tenure grew stale and had no trophies to show for it, and he hasn't come out of the PSG job with positive vibes either. Where does that experience rank when comparing a manager seemingly on the ascent to one on the descent.

I guess ultimately they're going to see first hand how successful this decision will be. It's a gamble and I can't see it ending up being a middling decision, this is either going to be a masterstroke or a disaster. I do have high hopes though that Potter has a huge amount of potential and hopefully we have things in place for him to realise that.

[YorkshireBlue 3,279]

4 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

 

I think the concept is being taken out of context. The impression I'm getting from this is that they aren't just going to go down the 'easy' route of looking at the tried and trusted coaching options already sat at the top table. I don't think its to say a manager won't be considered because they were sacked from their last job so must have failed in it. But in the case for example of Mourinho in recent times, no matter how great of a coach he has been, would people have considered him after his stints at United and Spurs went horribly wrong?

I think its a means of partially explaining why Potter over Poch. Poch has the experience of big club management but he's hardly been a resounding success. His Spurs tenure grew stale and had no trophies to show for it, and he hasn't come out of the PSG job with positive vibes either. Where does that experience rank when comparing a manager seemingly on the ascent to one on the descent.

I guess ultimately they're going to see first hand how successful this decision will be. It's a gamble and I can't see it ending up being a middling decision, this is either going to be a masterstroke or a disaster. I do have high hopes though that Potter has a huge amount of potential and hopefully we have things in place for him to realise that.

I hope it works 1 obviously for Chelsea but 2 if he here's 3 years+ we finally start to get rid of the stigma.

[Fernando 6,585]

I don't have high hope. 

I think we will be going the united route. 

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

On 09/09/2022 at 06:19, ZAPHOD2319 said:

What section of the US? NE, SE, MW, NW, SW?

NE, NYC at the moment but gonna looking for something less dirty and crowded in the mid term . Compared to London, Frankfurt, Madrid where lived as a elk NYc is quite a fall off in terms of quality of life. But the ppl are nice and the museums are great. I guess it’s still better than Brighton where the seagulls are constantly stealing your fish and chips so at least Potter is making a step up. 😄

[ZAPHOD2319 4,819]

5 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

NE, NYC at the moment but gonna looking for something less dirty and crowded in the mid term . Compared to London, Frankfurt, Madrid where lived as a elk NYc is quite a fall off in terms of quality of life. But the ppl are nice and the museums are great. I guess it’s still better than Brighton where the seagulls are constantly stealing your fish and chips so at least Potter is making a step up. 😄

NYC is always a nice visit, but I would really need to spend quite a bit of time going to broadway and sporting events to make it enjoyable on a daily basis. There is a tremendous amount to see and do.

I was hoping you had landed in the SE. Although Atlanta United are dreadful, still a great experience going to a game. When we go to NYC for a visit, I will give you a shout to see if a pint fits in your schedule.