Chelsea Transfers

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46 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Saul is interesting. Could he molded into holder ala Jorginho?

perhaps

here the DMF/CMF's I rate to buy (and who are actually somewhat or fully available, either now or next summer)

most are hybrids capable of playing a holding positions, box to box, trad DMF (some far more than others) and trad CMF roles

    
Nicolò Barella
Jude Bellingham   
Aurélien Tchouaméni
Eduardo Camavinga  
Youri Tielemans  
Declan Rice (too expensive)
Sergej Milinković-Savić  
Saúl Ñíguez
Franck Kessié
Rúben Neves
Houssem Aouar    
Carlos Soler   
Kalvin Phillips  
Tomas Soucek 
Ismaël Bennacer   
Boubacar Kamara
Ryan Gravenberch   
Bruno Guimarães 
Ilaix Moriba (would be loaned out) 
Weston McKennie

[Magic Lamps 11,456]

I think Saul can actually play a bit like Jorginho, has been holder for Atlético before. 
however has been off the rails a bit since his injury. Would be mad expensive due to contract till 26

on the plus side he is not in the Spanish squad so maybe a bit more durable 

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if Monaco lose this match next Wednesday

I am predicting we do a deal for Aurélien Tchouaméni at a reduced price from what is now being offered, as Monaco lose a shitload not qualifying for the CL group stage

[whats happening 1,440]

is tolisso so bad that he's not worth to buy him?

[Magic Lamps 11,456]

1 hour ago, whats happening said:

is tolisso so bad that he's not worth to buy him?

No, he is actually quite decent but I don't think he is the type of midfielder we are looking for. Not a Jorginho-type holder but fair enough passing and athleticism. No significant weaknesses. Regarded in isolation, he would be a good 4th choice still for 8m but I think we are looking for someone younger with a higher ceiling to be a long-term successor to Jorginho and don't want to buy run-of-the-mill players to block the development of our academy graduates.

[NikkiCFC 7,595]

3 hours ago, Magic Lamps said:

I think Saul can actually play a bit like Jorginho, has been holder for Atlético before. 
however has been off the rails a bit since his injury. Would be mad expensive due to contract till 26

on the plus side he is not in the Spanish squad so maybe a bit more durable 

Every report said he is available this summer for 40m.

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28 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Every report said he is available this summer for 40m.

40m is a lot for a 4th cm. ask Drinkwater lol

[Mário César 816]

 

 

[Pizy 17,860]

12 minutes ago, Mário César said:

 

 

None of these players will bring in any money. Getting a couple million in loan fees is surely not what our business is dependent on.

[MoroccanBlue 5,200]

21 minutes ago, Pizy said:

None of these players will bring in any money. Getting a couple million in loan fees is surely not what our business is dependent on.

Freeing up wages maybe what they are aiming for. 

[NikkiCFC 7,595]

Obviously when people are speaking about selling players they are speaking about Zouma. Maybe Ampadu, RLC, Barkley?

I know club has financial benefit of keeping these players but I am just upset they are still called Chelsea players. Especially Drinkwater, if we extend him as well, I am gonna lose it.

 

[NikkiCFC 7,595]

3 hours ago, Magic Lamps said:

40m is a lot for a 4th cm. ask Drinkwater lol

He is also Utd/Liverpool bound. And he would play much more there.

Here I would not play him ahead of any of our MFs. Was not even selected for EURO.

[OhForAGreavsie 5,776]

1 hour ago, Mana said:

This is disgusting. Marina, you have done well up to this point. But no one is going to buy deadbeat Bakayoko and Drinkwater under the wages we pay. Cut the losses and let them go, like we did with Willian. PLEASE.

Mana, you've been here too long to still be getting annoyed by this. The club persists in this M.O. because it makes sense. If 'cutting the losses' made more sense then that is what CFC would do. Leave those who know to sort out the periphery. Let's focus on the players who will be here trying to help us win matches and leave Marina to worry about the others. Getting agitated about players who won't be around and will play no role for us is a waste of emotional energy and I know you know this.

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5 hours ago, Magic Lamps said:

40m is a lot for a 4th cm. ask Drinkwater lol

If it is the right transfer, I don't look at that person as a 4th, but as a person to share Kante’s time when he needs rest or has a knock. That person could be more valuable to the team and season than just a 4th. 

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7 hours ago, Magic Lamps said:

40m is a lot for a 4th cm. ask Drinkwater lol

40m euros, ie £34m

And comparing Saul to Drinkwater is like comparing a bottle of Krug Brut to an alcopop 

Not saying he is my first choice btw, but he is in my top 10 or so for CMF's 

Plus he can play LB and LWB.

 

 

[Strike 6,969]

7 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

Obviously when people are speaking about selling players they are speaking about Zouma. Maybe Ampadu, RLC, Barkley?

I know club has financial benefit of keeping these players but I am just upset they are still called Chelsea players. Especially Drinkwater, if we extend him as well, I am gonna lose it.

 

I think this is a product of thinking every player is an asset. Bakayoko is negative value at this point and I don't see him having a good enough season to convince anyone to actually pay for him. Let him and the dregs just run down their contracts.

[Jype 6,398]

10 minutes ago, Strike said:

I think this is a product of thinking every player is an asset. Bakayoko is negative value at this point and I don't see him having a good enough season to convince anyone to actually pay for him. Let him and the dregs just run down their contracts.

He hasn't done too badly in his loans, has he? Being a first team regular at clubs aiming for CL qualification in top5 leagues is definitely not a 'negative value player'. Just because the clubs hes been at are skint beyond any hope doesn't mean he's not a decent player for teams like that.  People put too much weight into his horrible and hopeless season for Chelsea in 2017/2018 but we have to remember that's only one season of his career so far, the rest of the time he's not been anywhere near bad. Obviously still not Chelsea level but just because a player is not good enough for us doesn't mean he can't actually be a really useful player for someone else. 

Drinkwater is the definition of negative value, but Bakayoko doesn't even come close. There's a reason why the club have triggered Bakayoko's extension option but are hoping for Drinkwater to just run down his contract.

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10 hours ago, Pizy said:

None of these players will bring in any money. Getting a couple million in loan fees is surely not what our business is dependent on.

Purely wages, to save, sustain and lay some money back into the new signings.