Vesper 30,260 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 16 minutes ago, Jason said: Tuchel did not confirm anything. Christ! he tried to have it both ways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, Vesper said: he tried to have it both ways He was being diplomatic about it. And besides, I doubt we'll have the money to buy both Upamecano and Haaland. It'll be one or the other. Plus, given more clubs are gonna be in for those 2 than say for Havertz and Werner last summer due to the pandemic, let's see if we can actually beat the competition this time, assuming we do go for either one of them. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,260 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Jason said: He was being diplomatic about it. And besides, I doubt we'll have the money to buy both Upamecano and Haaland. It'll be one or the other. Plus, given more clubs are gonna be in for those 2 than say for Havertz and Werner last summer due to the pandemic, let's see if we can actually beat the competition this time, assuming we do go for either one of them. I do not see us getting either one, nor Alaba so there goes the only 3 players I have seen linked with Tuchel I have no clue what is going on with so many of our players (plus the ones out on loan) questions on the futures of (big list warning, and I include some who may be sent on loan who are not on loan atm) 52 (52!!!!) players who we cannot make definitive statements on (some are very likely to be loaned or kept on main team or maybe reserves so can be called up, but not 100% known in terms of exact fate) Kepa Willy Caballero Kurt Zouma Antonio Rüdiger Andreas Christensen Emerson Marcos Alonso Jorginho N'Golo Kanté Billy Gilmour Charly Musonda Jr. Callum Hudson-Odoi Olivier Giroud Dujon Sterling Jamal Blackman Baba Rahman Davide Zappacosta Ethan Ampadu Fikayo Tomori Ian Maatsen Juan Castillo Jake Clarke-Salter Marc Guéhi Matt Miazga Malang Sarr Trevoh Chalobah Conor Gallagher Danny Drinkwater Danilo Pantić Jon Russell Kenedy Lewis Baker Luke McCormick Marco van Ginkel Ross Barkley Ruben Loftus-Cheek Tariq Uwakwe Tiémoué Bakayoko Victor Moses Armando Broja Izzy Brown Ike Ugbo Michy Batshuayi Henry Lawrence Thierno Ballo Lewis Bate Tino Anjorin Levi Colwill Tino Livramento Xavier Mbuyamba George McEachran Jude Soonsup-Bell Edited February 10, 2021 by Vesper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 16 hours ago, Vesper said: I do not see us getting either one, nor Alaba so there goes the only 3 players I have seen linked with Tuchel I have no clue what is going on with so many of our players (plus the ones out on loan) questions on the futures of (big list warning, and I include some who may be sent on loan who are not on loan atm) 52 (52!!!!) players who we cannot make definitive statements on (some are very likely to be loaned or kept on main team or maybe reserves so can be called up, but not 100% known in terms of exact fate) Kepa Willy Caballero Kurt Zouma Antonio Rüdiger Andreas Christensen Emerson Marcos Alonso Jorginho N'Golo Kanté Billy Gilmour Charly Musonda Jr. Callum Hudson-Odoi Olivier Giroud Dujon Sterling Jamal Blackman Baba Rahman Davide Zappacosta Ethan Ampadu Fikayo Tomori Ian Maatsen Juan Castillo Jake Clarke-Salter Marc Guéhi Matt Miazga Malang Sarr Trevoh Chalobah Conor Gallagher Danny Drinkwater Danilo Pantić Jon Russell Kenedy Lewis Baker Luke McCormick Marco van Ginkel Ross Barkley Ruben Loftus-Cheek Tariq Uwakwe Tiémoué Bakayoko Victor Moses Armando Broja Izzy Brown Ike Ugbo Michy Batshuayi Henry Lawrence Thierno Ballo Lewis Bate Tino Anjorin Levi Colwill Tino Livramento Xavier Mbuyamba George McEachran Jude Soonsup-Bell To be fair the majority of those players are either development players or players brought for development. The ones we should worry about are the following (owing to wages and fees paid): Batsh*t Kepa Baka Drinky Zappa Baba Emerson Barkley Moses Zouma Rudi RLC AC Tomori Kenedy Jorgi Alonso MVG *I have excluded Willy and Giroud as they're out of out contract. This is still some list but I think they are broken into categories. Cat 1 - Players that shouldn't be sold Alonso - If we continue with 343 I do not see any need to sell when considering our other issues as we will have to buy a replacement and we have bigger fish to fry than sodding about with this. As I have always maintained, Alonso in a 3atb system is a very handy player. 2 x of AC, Tomori, Rudi, Zouma - As a collective they are poor, however as CB3-5 options they're fine. Pick your favourites on who stays. My personal choice would be AC (best one to cover the central CB slot behind Silva) plus either Rudi or Tomori. Cat 2 - Players that are non-enitities due to injury/personal problems (likely that we are still paying 100% even when loaned.) Baba MVG Drinky (probably should be in the list below but I do feel he has mental health problems so I give him a slight stay of execution.) With these players, just accept the loss. Cat 3 - Players who are vastly overpaid and will become Bogrades (or can only be loaned with minimal loan fees or percentage of wages covered) RLC Batsh*t Baka Kepa Zappa Again suck this up and remember these players and how they were brought/given contract extensions when praising Granny as these players cost a total of £160m+ and over £500k a week. Cat 4 - Players that can still be sold for a profit/no real/small loss: Moses (if Spartak get CL - if not move him into Cat 3.) Kante (may belong in Cat 1) Jorgi (maybe needs his own category due to how limited his market is.) Barkley (needs to stay fit for the rest of the season, possibly biggest profit potential.) Kenedy (expect a loss but I reckon we can get a sale.) Emerson (wages save him. Could maybe belong in Cat 3.) 2 x of AC, Tomori, Rudi, Zouma The problem we have really is the Cat 3 players (and the Cat 4 players who could/probably will join them) as they are all players who were poor buys from poor scouting or vastly overpaid before proving themselves. It is Cat 3 which will ultimately handicap us as the cost of these players is ludicrous and cannot be offset by Cat 4. As for the development players/players excluded they are the cost of running a very good development programme and either still have time to develop or will not be serious costs. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,119 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Have you folks seen the rumours that we are willing to swap Jorgy for Erikson? Who the fuck comes out with these bs stories.....no fucking chance we would be that stupid. Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MoroccanBlue 5,385 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Was never impressed to be fair. Konate always looked the better defender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Not fuzzed. Typical Bayern wrapping this up early. Alaba and Boa both to leave. Hope we stay clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,364 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 So no Alaba no Upamecano. Who's left? Gimenez, Varane, Sule, Ginter... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 (edited) On 10/02/2021 at 21:32, Jason said: He was being diplomatic about it. And besides, I doubt we'll have the money to buy both Upamecano and Haaland. It'll be one or the other. Plus, given more clubs are gonna be in for those 2 than say for Havertz and Werner last summer due to the pandemic, let's see if we can actually beat the competition this time, assuming we do go for either one of them. Will they? If anything the pandemic will be even harder felt this summer, the quiet January all round was ominous. Although unfortunately we will be part of that real world now with no Hazard and Morata cash burning a hole. 43 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: So no Alaba no Upamecano. Who's left? Gimenez, Varane, Sule, Ginter... If back 3 is the way we're going medium term and RJ will be considered wingback by TT maybe Mukiele? (although i'd back him in a 4atb aswell). Edited February 12, 2021 by Tomo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Tomo said: Will they? If anything the pandemic will be even harder felt this summer, the quiet January all round was ominous. Although unfortunately we will be part of that real world now with no Hazard and Morata cash burning a hole. A quiet January transfer window means nothing really. We might normally see the odd big transfer or two but no serious clubs will sell their assets right in the middle of the season. I think there will be much more movement this summer compared to last summer. Last summer, the pandemic just happened and I don't think anyone had a clear picture of the financial situation. Now that we are a year in and all that and have some sort of clarity of the situation, I suspect some clubs will be making moves this time around. Bayern already made a move on Upamecano. United will likely try to sign Sancho again and he might be available on a cheaper price this time, especially if Dortmund don't qualify for the Champions League. Then there's City who might try to sign Messi or Haaland for example. Real Madrid might also be tempted to make a move if Mbappe wants to go to Spain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Blues Forever 1,232 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: So no Alaba no Upamecano. Who's left? Gimenez, Varane, Sule, Ginter... You can also add Kounde, Konate, Milenkovic, Skriniar, Carlos, Botman, Caleta-Car, Torres, Carmo, White, Soyuncu, Badiashile, and Schuurs. Edited February 13, 2021 by Blues Forever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jase 43,479 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 So pathetic that players in Germany just go join Bayern every season. Swear every German club are just a feeder club to Bayern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 8 minutes ago, Jason said: So pathetic that players in Germany just go join Bayern every season. Swear every German club are just a feeder club to Bayern. He's smart though, joining Bayern would certainly guarantee him many trophies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 11 minutes ago, Blues Forever said: He's smart though, joining Bayern would certainly guarantee him many trophies. For his career, yeah but on the flip side, it's boring and almost a given that Bayern would win the Bundesliga and DFB Pokal pretty much every season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Atomiswave 6,119 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 7 hours ago, Blues Forever said: He's smart though, joining Bayern would certainly guarantee him many trophies. He took the easy way, that league exists to feed BM all day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,385 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 10 hours ago, Blues Forever said: You can also add Kounde, Konate, Milenkovic, Skriniar, Carlos, Botman, Caleta-Car, Torres, Carmo, White, Soyuncu, Badiashile, and Schuurs. Hope our eyes are on Kounde. Basically Christensen except he can defend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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