Chelsea Transfers

[R2D2 368]

Linked with this clown again, praying it's bollocks, this guy is the Lukaku of midfielders overrated beyond belief, hope United waste the money on him.

Rather take the risk with Tchouameni than this overrated and overpriced British player.

Edited May 22, 2021 by R2D2

[Blues Forever 1,232]

37 minutes ago, R2D2 said:

Linked with this clown again, praying it's bollocks, this guy is the Lukaku of midfielders overrated beyond belief, hope United waste the money on him.

Rather take the risk with Tchouameni than this overrated and overpriced British player.

Just waste of money, there are other players who would cost far less than Rice.

[MoroccanBlue 5,379]

1 hour ago, Blues Forever said:

Just waste of money, there are other players who would cost far less than Rice.

Its Matt Law.

The Athletic stated our board were furious with Lampard when he suggested to break the bank for him. I like Rice but we should be all over Tchouameni

[Jase 43,479]

Is it just me or do some people's dislike of Rice here seems to be more about his nationality rather than his actual ability etc?

Call me paranoid but I refuse to believe stories that say Tuchel wants Player A, B, C until we know for sure he's staying, *ahem* regardless of what happens in these last two games.

[Jase 43,479]

6 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Its Matt Law.

The Athletic stated our board were furious with Lampard when he suggested to break the bank for him. I like Rice but we should be all over Tchouameni

The difference between then and now is we could use Abraham to lower the price in a player + cash for player deal. West Ham also need a striker since Antonio is a tad injury prone.

There's two advantages to this if we make it happen - (a) we let go of an unwanted player and (b) Rice already knows the league and has less question marks over him than Tchouameni (based on some responses here). 

[Blues Forever 1,232]

21 minutes ago, Jas said:

Is it just me or do some people's dislike of Rice here seems to be more about his nationality rather than his actual ability etc?

Call me paranoid but I refuse to believe stories that say Tuchel wants Player A, B, C until we know for sure he's staying, *ahem* regardless of what happens in these last two games.

The dislike is more about the price tag, £90m is insane money for a DM and not even a world class.

Edited May 22, 2021 by Blues Forever

[Jase 43,479]

26 minutes ago, Blues Forever said:

The dislike is more about the price tag, £90m is insane money for a DM and not even a world class.

Let's not try to cover it up here. You have people calling Rice a clown, overrated, overpriced or whatever else. No one seems to be talking about his actual ability. And if we can use Abraham to lower the fee to about 40-50 million, then not sure why are we complaining. Someone like Tchouameni - who has supposedly been compared to Bakayoko! - may be cheaper but he's still untested in this league and no guarantee he'll be a success. 

[Blues Forever 1,232]

11 minutes ago, Jas said:

Let's not try to cover it up here. You have people calling Rice a clown, overrated, overpriced or whatever else. No one seems to be talking about his actual ability. And if we can use Abraham to lower the fee to about 40-50 million, then not sure why are we complaining. Someone like Tchouameni - who has supposedly been compared to Bakayoko! - may be cheaper but he's still untested in this league and no guarantee he'll be a success. 

This also applied to Rice, being a PL proven doesn't guarantee him success at Chelsea.  Even using Abraham + £40m - £50m is still too much for someone who isn't a world class in his position, just not smart way to spend money in this current Covid.

Edited May 22, 2021 by Blues Forever

[Jype 6,398]

I already rated Declan Rice highly last summer and this season he's been even better by a big margin. If a transfer is doable with Tammy + money I'd say go for it. Great player and destined to be a great team leader, which is always a nice bonus and a really underrated quality when comparing different transfer targets. 

To some of the people 'hating' on Rice and crying for a non-British alternative at a cheaper price, didn't you already get burnt with the fraud that turned out to be Sergio Reguilon, the 'best left-back in La Liga'? After watching both of them in the PL this season how many Chelsea fans would trade Chilwell for him now? Chilwell might not be the perfect player himself either but Reguilon has been a joke.

Sure for the midfield position there could be a quality alternative out there with good enough scouting but the best ones still cost a lot of money. Obviously talk of £90M or something like that for Rice is beyond ridiculous but I'd be really surprised if the actual transfer value was anything above £65-70M and if West Ham were to take Tammy in exchange that already covers half and would solve two issues at once because in this covid market there might not be many takers for Tammy at a fair enough value. 

[Jase 43,479]

35 minutes ago, Blues Forever said:

This also applied to Rice, being a PL proven doesn't guarantee him success at Chelsea.  Even using Abraham + £40m - £50m is still too much for someone who isn't a world class in his position, just not smart way to spend money in this current Covid.

No one is saying Rice being PL proven will guarantee him to be a success but compare him with someone who is still untested in this league, there's more chance of Rice being a success. Neither pro or anti Tchouameni/Rice here but if spending extra 10-20 million guarantee us more of a sure thing, I'd rather choose the more expensive option. 

COVID-19 pandemic or not, what's 40-50 million these days? It's like the old big 30 million transfers before the market became as wild as it is today. If/when we sell the deadwoods, the money coming in can easily cover the 40-50 million or at least part of it. 

It's also funny you mentioned about spending smartly when last summer, we spent over 200 million on new players, including 70 million+ on Havertz, who has the potential but isn't world class right now and this summer, we're talking about potentially spending over 100 million on a new striker. 

[Blues Forever 1,232]

1 minute ago, Jas said:

No one is saying Rice being PL proven will guarantee him to be a success but compare him with someone who is still untested in this league, there's more chance of Rice being a success. Neither pro or anti Tchouameni/Rice here but if spending extra 10-20 million guarantee us more of a sure thing, I'd rather choose the more expensive option. 

COVID-19 pandemic or not, what's 40-50 million these days? It's like the old big 30 million transfers before the market became as wild as it is today. If/when we sell the deadwoods, the money coming in can easily cover the 40-50 million or at least part of it. 

It's also funny you mentioned about spending smartly when last summer, we spent over 200 million on new players, including 70 million+ on Havertz, who has the potential but isn't world class right now and this summer, we're talking about potentially spending over 100 million on a new striker. 

Paying big money for an attacker are more justified than for a DM. I won't have any problem if we spend over £100m for a world class player and for a position we need the most. Rice as good as he is not worth to spend £90m, the likes of Tchouameni or Kamara are far more reasonable given they are far cheaper and it's not like the gap between them and Rice are big. 

[Alabama 1,992]

6 minutes ago, Blues Forever said:

Paying big money for an attacker are more justified than for a DM. I won't have any problem if we spend over £100m for a world class player and for a position we need the most. Rice as good as he is not worth to spend £90m, the likes of Tchouameni or Kamara are far more reasonable given they are far cheaper and it's not like the gap between them and Rice are big. 

Though they aint PL proven but to me they have gotten far superior qualities than Rice...

[Blues Forever 1,232]

3 minutes ago, Alabama said:

Though they aint PL proven but to me they have gotten far superior qualities than Rice...

Rice only advantage over Kamara and Tchouameni are being PL proven and has leadership, that it. 

Edited May 22, 2021 by Blues Forever

[Pizy 18,888]

Declan Rice will be one of those players we will really regret seeing at one of our rivals if he goes there instead of us. Think he’s going to be a top, top player in a big team for many years.

The problem for us is that we need a striker that will likely consume the majority of our summer budget and Rice will probably cost like £85m. And that kind of money is impossible to justify when you can sign a DM from France or somewhere else for half that or less.

[Vegetable 830]

6 minutes ago, Blues Forever said:

Rice only advantage over Kamara and Tchouameni are being PL proven and has leadership, that it. 

Well, I guess that in certain circumstances eg. Tomori, Christensen and Tammy leaving and new high-profile incomings, his homegrown status may be a huge advantage