ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 10 minutes ago, Strike said: Was in favour of Maresca's decisions so far. But I agree with this. Seems like a misstep. Only explanation I can think of is there's a fund crunch to go out and sign someone when there's 3 senior keepers on the books. Also the reason for free signing at CB I would wait until this all plays out. There are several keepers linked to us. A negotiating tactic is often to show the selling club you really don’t need the player being discussed. The sporting directors can easily be trying to manipulate getting a keeper without paying the big club tax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,219 Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 6 hours ago, Beorn said: not entirely true. If you see the video showcasing the tactics of McKenna it discusses the impact of Hutchinson and shows his role and heatmap. he was more of a left sided winger or even a second striker. yes, I went back and looked deeper, and most of his goals came as a LWer, not a Rw I was fooled as I saw most of his that he scored on the right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,219 Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 5 hours ago, Pizy said: There really isn’t that RvP/Haaland/Diego Costa sort of striker that you are 100% convinced will be the final piece for your team and score 20 or more instantly. Lautaro Martínez (but he may soon renew after months of it looking unlikely, same for Barella, grrrr) 141 goals for club and country in the past 5 years and he is still only 26, turns 27 right near the beginning of the EPL season, so still prime years for the next 5, 6 or so seasons (Drogba's best goal scoring year was when he was 31/32yo, for instance, when he banged in 44 for club (37 in the 2009/10 season) and country (7) over a 12 month span) Lautaro is only 1 year and 4 months older than Osimhen (and also Mbappe, who is 9 days older than Osimhen) and is far more technical than Osimhen (but obviously not more than Mbappe, lol), so likely will age better these are the top 20 valuation true CFs (I still count Mbappe as a winger) bold are ones who even are remotely (some almost no chance) available if things break right Erling Haaland Lautaro Martínez (only available if he refuses to renew) Victor Osimhen Harry Kane Julián Álvarez Alexander Isak Darwin Núñez (hard pass) Dušan Vlahović Ollie Watkins Rasmus Højlund Gabriel Jesus (hard pass) Loïs Openda Marcus Thuram Viktor Gyökeres Endrick Jonathan David Benjamin Sesko Ivan Toney Evan Ferguson Gonçalo Ramos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,219 Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 IF we pull a CF I wager it will be one of these of these 5 (we are not going to get Osimhen or Lautaro) Dušan Vlahović Viktor Gyökeres Jonathan David Benjamin Sesko Ivan Toney (least expensive, and EPL proven, but also the lowest upside and by far the oldest) I think the last 2 are the most likely, but I would go for J David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,282 Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 2 hours ago, Vesper said: IF we pull a CF I wager it will be one of these of these 5 (we are not going to get Osimhen or Lautaro) Dušan Vlahović Viktor Gyökeres Jonathan David Benjamin Sesko Ivan Toney (least expensive, and EPL proven, but also the lowest upside and by far the oldest) I think the last 2 are the most likely, but I would go for J David probably will be sesko or gyokeres happy and confident about both? bigbluewillie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa19 858 Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 2 hours ago, Vesper said: IF we pull a CF I wager it will be one of these of these 5 (we are not going to get Osimhen or Lautaro) Dušan Vlahović Viktor Gyökeres Jonathan David Benjamin Sesko Ivan Toney (least expensive, and EPL proven, but also the lowest upside and by far the oldest) I think the last 2 are the most likely, but I would go for J David Isak would smash it here. But he is another £100m or more.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,219 Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 4 minutes ago, Mário César said: probably will be sesko or gyokeres happy and confident about both? I do not know. Viktor Gyökeres feels like a very expensive dice roll and I doubt we get him anyway. Benjamin Šeško a slightly less expensive one. I was in for him before he became expensive. I would feel better better if we pulled Toney on the cheap or splashed a bit more and got J David. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,948 Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 If Villa weren’t coming off of a top 4 finish I’d say Ollie Watkins would be a great signing as our new striker. But much like Newcastle with Isak, Villa as a club will be thinking that they’re “here to stay” as a regular top 4 contender and would never in a million years sell him. But as Newcastle found out and as many “smaller” clubs that get UCL football once in a blue moon find out, once you have to juggle so many games and competitions it’s very hard to get back the following season. I think Villa finish WAY lower next season. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 Boehly and his swinging dick contest extremely over paid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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OhForAGreavsie 6,077 Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 1 hour ago, Pizy said: If Villa weren’t coming off of a top 4 finish I’d say Ollie Watkins would be a great signing as our new striker. But much like Newcastle with Isak, Villa as a club will be thinking that they’re “here to stay” as a regular top 4 contender and would never in a million years sell him. But as Newcastle found out and as many “smaller” clubs that get UCL football once in a blue moon find out, once you have to juggle so many games and competitions it’s very hard to get back the following season. I think Villa finish WAY lower next season. If we'd beaten Villa at home in October, we'd now be the ones making plans for the upcoming Champions League campaign. 😞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,948 Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 If it’s a straight fight for Sesko between ourselves and Arse I don’t think he’s choosing us. This ownership seems to want players on lower wages than the insane ones we used to hand out so o can’t see us offering a salary that would blow Arsenal’s away like we might have done in years past. Them having CL football + being a ready made title contender that he he can instantly slot into will probably make them more attractive. So if he goes there our options become even more limited in an already scarce striker market. Reddish-Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,510 Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 2 hours ago, Pizy said: But as Newcastle found out and as many “smaller” clubs that get UCL football once in a blue moon find out, once you have to juggle so many games and competitions it’s very hard to get back the following season They also had injuries to their starting GK, CB and many other squad level players... To be taking on UCL + PL (solid top 4 run), you need some proper depth in your first team squad. 2 hours ago, Pizy said: I think Villa finish WAY lower next season. Depends on if Emery can keep the core group together and then add some depth. I feel like they did have a decent run this season with PL and the European league competition (getting to the latter stages, not having enough to get past the eventual champions). I'd still expect them to be around the top 6... City/Arsenal will be the top 2, if Slot figures it out quickly Liverpool shouldn't be dropping from top 4....that leaves us, Spurs, Villa, Newcastle and United battling for the 4th spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,510 Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 7 minutes ago, Pizy said: Them having CL football + being a ready made title contender that he he can instantly slot into will probably make them more attractive. So if he goes there our options become even more limited in an already scarce striker market. I'm sort of surprised that we're not linked to any experienced strikers (in that Giroud/Demba Ba mould) who could come in and put in a decent shift and take the pressure off Jackson/Palmer/Nkunku (as he gets fully fit). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 (edited) Want to spend more efficiently? I hope this is a joke. Why not do that from day 1? Absolute helmets. They literally are just winging it. I mean how has it has taken them the best part of spending £1bn to realise they should look to spend more efficiently? And even more so, surely having gone from 3rd place to 12th place to 6th place during the 2 and a bit seasons of their ownership they could have seen that throwing money at something doesn’t always work? No? Was their whole mantra when they came in not that they felt Roman had spent too much money in a unsustainable way on players, wages & agent fees also? Honestly cannot wait for these to pack up and fuck off 😂 Edited June 4, 2024 by OneMoSalah Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,282 Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 another off target he will probably cost 80M pounds or something close to that Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,948 Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 We’re probably gonna get some striker that most of us haven’t really heard of from a small club. Someone who is super young and unproven. Which is of course the opposite of what is needed. Laylabelle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mário César 1,282 Posted June 4, 2024 Share Posted June 4, 2024 I saw some news about our interest in muniz from fulham Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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