Chelsea Transfers

[MoroccanBlue 5,318]

Has his family in London. Is settled. Already won a shit ton and in the twilight of his career. Getting paid almost half a mill a week. 

Of course he isn't leaving. We are the perfect retirement home for him. 

[Vesper 29,017]

53 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

twilight of his career

he turned 29yo this season

that is not twilight time unless you are an injury ruint player, why he is not

[Vesper 29,017]

How much is Chelsea’s squad really worth?

https://theathletic.com/5460572/2024/05/01/Chelsea-squad-value-boehly-clearlake/

Results on the pitch in the second full season of Todd Boehly and Clearlake Capital’s ownership of Chelsea have continued to disappoint.

But what about their fortunes off it? The principles underpinning the divisive strategy implemented by Chelsea’s owners since January 2023 are economic as well as sporting in nature: to build a financial and footballing success story by sanctioning unprecedented transfer spending on young players committed to ultra-long contracts, effectively turning a Premier League squad into a human investment portfolio.

One way of tracking the trajectory of the Boehly-Clearlake experiment is through Chelsea’s financial results, which tell a worrying story; essentially, the club only mitigated heavy losses and narrowly complied with the Premier League’s profitability and sustainability regulations (PSR) in 2022-23 by effectively selling two hotels on the Stamford Bridge site to themselves for £76.5million ($96m at current rates) — and that transaction is still awaiting an official sign-off from the Premier League.

The problem with this method is that, since clubs publish their accounts almost a year after the fact, it is always looking into the recent past.

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Another way of gauging Chelsea’s financial health is to assess the value of their squad, including the many players they have signed relative to the transfer fees that brought them to Stamford Bridge.

This is where the CIES Football Observatory comes in. Founded in 2005 by Dr Raffaele Poli and Dr Loic Ravenel as a research group within the International Centre for Sports Studies in Neuchatel, Switzerland, it specialises in the statistical analysis of football — and has become best known for its approach to estimating the transfer values of footballers.

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Poli and Ravenel brought scientific rigour to the transfer market; their statistical model, built in 2013, comprises more than 10,000 fee-paying transfers and can be used to explain the value of transfers or estimate the transfer values of players before deals happen.

“We can explain about 85 per cent of the differences in prices paid between players,” Poli tells The Athletic. “That’s huge — 12 years ago when we started, we could explain around 70 per cent. It’s not because the market has more rationality, but because we found new variables and fine-tuned the model.

“We are still working on it but it’s quite strong and reliable.”

Player age and remaining contract length are, unsurprisingly, two of the biggest determining factors in transfer value.

“Age is a linear regression — the younger you are, the better it is, all other things being equal — while contract length is logarithmic,” Poli explains. “That means from four to three years, for example, you lose less value than from two years to one year or one year to six months.”

At the other end of the scale, players get no boost to their transfer value in the model for having longer than four years remaining on their contracts — bad news for the Boehly-Clearlake signings who are committed to Chelsea for the rest of the decade.

There are many other variables in the CIES model, including:

• A player’s experience (minutes played) in the 24 months preceding a transfer, weighted by the sporting level of the club and league
• A player’s progression in the 12 months preceding a transfer relative to the previous 12 months
• Number of goals scored in the previous 24 months, weighted by the sporting level of the club and league
• Number of assists provided in the previous 12 months, weighted by the sporting level of the club and league
• Number of accurate passes in the previous 12 months, weighted by the sporting level of the club and league
• Number of successful dribbles in the previous 12 months, weighted by the sporting level of the club and league
• A player’s full international experience since the start of their career, weighted by the level of national team represented
• The economic level of the buying club
• The average value of the 100 largest transfer fees completed on a global level during each of the previous four transfer windows (to take inflation into account).

Poli knows the CIES model cannot account for everything in a transfer market dictated by humans. “There are some residuals,” he says. “If there were no residuals, our approach would be worthless because the market would have perfect rationality.”

Residuals are factors that are not statistically quantifiable: some examples include a player’s relationship with team-mates or his coach, a club’s indebtedness or fear of relegation or, in Chelsea’s case, deciding they simply could not allow Moises Caicedo, the midfielder they had publicly pursued all of last summer, to join rivals Liverpool regardless of the cost.

Poli and Ravenel’s work has garnered credibility within the industry; CIES player valuations are regularly used by clubs and agents for transfer and contract negotiations, and referenced in club takeovers and even in cases that reach the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS). Findings are also regularly made public on its website.

CIES has provided The Athletic with valuations of every player in Chelsea’s first-team squad, up to date as of April 25, 2024. The valuations have been converted from euros to British pound sterling in the table below, and compared to the reported initial transfer fees for each player (with the exceptions of Cobham academy graduates, whose valuations are pure profit):

Some of these valuations may be surprising.

Enzo Fernandez has almost entirely retained a transfer value that many felt was excessive when Chelsea prised him from Benfica on the final day of the January 2023 transfer window. His performances have fluctuated and been hampered by injury in recent months. He has undergone surgery on a hernia issue and will miss the rest of the season, but he had played almost every match for his new club and been a consistent starter in a World Cup-winning Argentina side.

At 23, Fernandez’s youth also works in his favour when it comes to determining his transfer value — as is the case for many of the other Boehly-Clearlake signings.

Cole Palmer’s value has predictably sky-rocketed in light of his spectacular Premier League breakthrough campaign. Nicolas Jackson and Axel Disasi have also seen their transfer values benefit from being in the top five for Premier League minutes played in Mauricio Pochettino’s squad in the 2023-24 season. Caicedo is a different story, though that is more a reflection of his gargantuan transfer fee than his performances since joining Chelsea.

Conor Gallagher’s value would almost certainly be significantly higher if he were not about to enter the final year of his contract. If no extension is agreed, £46.3million is in line with the level of transfer offer that would satisfy Chelsea this summer.

Raheem Sterling and Mykhailo Mudryk retaining values similar to the transfer fees Chelsea paid for them is likely to be controversial given their underwhelming individual seasons but both benefit from the fact that the CIES model prices in the positional premium that favours attackers, and neither have had their availability seriously impacted by injuries.

The same cannot be said for Christopher Nkunku, Wesley Fofana, Ben Chilwell, Romeo Lavia and Carney Chukwuemeka, all of whom have depreciated in value while on the treatment table. Reece James, who was emerging as one of the world’s best right-backs before enduring two injury-plagued seasons, would be worth a lot more than £25.7million if he had been playing regularly for Chelsea.

Overall, the fact that CIES’ valuations indicate this squad is worth £57.5million more than the estimated transfer outlay required to assemble it might encourage the view that, on a financial level at least, the Boehly-Clearlake strategy of investing in young talent is working.

But that is not the whole story.

More than £130million of that squad value is accounted for by Cobham academy graduates who cost nothing to acquire. If they are removed and only the CIES valuations of Chelsea’s signings are examined, the picture is very different:

According to the CIES model, there is almost £80million worth of depreciation in transfer value of Chelsea’s signings, the vast majority of which were made by the current owners. Even with notable success stories — such as Palmer, Jackson and Disasi — to persist with the investment portfolio analogy, more lines are going down than up.

This is only a snapshot in time. Chelsea are not planning to sell most of these players anytime soon, and Palmer’s stratospheric rise is a reminder that transfer values can change very quickly. It might only require better injury luck in the cases of James, Nkunku, Fofana, Chilwell, Lavia and Chukwuemeka for the overall picture to look much better in 12 months.

On the other hand, it could also look much worse if Chelsea do end up selling academy graduates Gallagher and Trevoh Chalobah this summer for short-term accounting gain, and not enough of the Boehly-Clearlake signings trend upwards next season to compensate for the loss of squad value.

In any case, it is a stark illustration of the fact that Chelsea’s investment portfolio is faring no better than their football team.

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[MoroccanBlue 5,318]

2 hours ago, Vesper said:

he turned 29yo this season

that is not twilight time unless you are an injury ruint player, why he is not

Been playing at the very top level season after season since he was 17. 

Normal for players like that to drastically regress once 30. 

[NikkiCFC 8,048]

 

[MoroccanBlue 5,318]

13 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

 

@robsblubot This lad any good?

Also, just what the hell is the actual plan here? We're stacked with RW's? Unless Angelo and Madueke will be sold for profit?

 

Palmer

Madueke

Paez

Angelo

Estevao

Edited May 2 by MoroccanBlue

[robsblubot 3,529]

18 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

@robsblubot This lad any good?

Also, just what the hell is the actual plan here? We're stacked with RW's? Unless Angelo and Madueke will be sold for profit?

 

Palmer

Madueke

Paez

Angelo

Estevao

I don't know haven't seen him play -- will ask my cousin (Palmeiras' fan) 🙂 
 

 

[robsblubot 3,529]

29 minutes ago, robsblubot said:

I don't know haven't seen him play -- will ask my cousin (Palmeiras' fan) 🙂 
 

 

So, nobody seen him (Estevão) play yet — he’s 16 lol (ok just turned 17)

cousin says he’s one of those super talented youngsters and that his nickname at Palmeiras is “Messinho” 😏 

he can only move when he’s 18 tho just like Endrik (will finally move to Madrid in the summer).

Edited May 2 by robsblubot

[Vesper 29,017]

5 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

@robsblubot This lad any good?

Also, just what the hell is the actual plan here? We're stacked with RW's? Unless Angelo and Madueke will be sold for profit?

 

Palmer

Madueke

Paez

Angelo

Estevao

plus

Omari Hutchinson  left-footed right winger

Diego Moreira left-footed right winger

Dujuan Whisper Richards  left-footed winger/CF

 

 

[Vesper 29,017]

5 hours ago, robsblubot said:

So, nobody seen him (Estevão) play yet — he’s 16 lol (ok just turned 17)

cousin says he’s one of those super talented youngsters and that his nickname at Palmeiras is “Messinho” 😏 

he can only move when he’s 18 tho just like Endrik (will finally move to Madrid in the summer).

 

 

 

 

[robsblubot 3,529]

13 minutes ago, Vesper said:

 

 

 

 

His agent is working hard apparently 🙂 
TBH, what he does against u18 matters very little to me, and unlikely Endrik he's untested at senior level. Let's see who snatches him and whether that pays off or not.

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On 01/05/2024 at 23:32, Mhsc said:

Haven't even started to think about what we need to do in summer. How to make sense of a squad like ours, where in almost every position we have good options if only they would be fit?

Could make an argument for GK, CB, LB, CM (somewhat amazingly), LW, ST...

I think there isn't a lot to be done and some continuity will be good for this squad instead of uprooting the first team with 5-6 new players.

Hoping that James, Gusto, Fofana, Colwill, Lavia, Enzo, Nkunku, Carney return, we need a LB and ST.

GK if there is someone in the market who's a clear upgrade. 

[Mhsc 905]

3 hours ago, Strike said:

I think there isn't a lot to be done and some continuity will be good for this squad instead of uprooting the first team with 5-6 new players.

Hoping that James, Gusto, Fofana, Colwill, Lavia, Enzo, Nkunku, Carney return, we need a LB and ST.

GK if there is someone in the market who's a clear upgrade. 

Yeah, I can totally see that argument too. The main place we need to make signings and make a serious investment to improve our squad is surely our medical department.

At this point I'd probably offload Chilwell and let the recruiters try to grab another Malo-esque signing for LB. Other than that I'd just like some leadership and experience in the squad, at CB and ST.

[Vesper 29,017]

even younger

we are looking at

Gabriel Mec

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Vesper 29,017]

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Edited May 3 by Vesper

[Arlen Correa 161]

Estevao played yesterday with the professionals.

 

 

[Vesper 29,017]

5 hours ago, Arlen Correa said:

Estevao played yesterday with the professionals.

 

 

until yesterday, you (a year before I did) and I were the only people talking about him here as far as I can tell

[King Kante 1,500]

I will go early with my lists for the Summer: 

Stay 

Petrovic

Bettilini 

Trev

Fofana

Colwill 

Chilwell

James

Gusto 

Enzo

Lavia

Caicedo 

Palmer

Carney

Noni

Mudryk - Just. 

Jackson

 

Sell for right money

Cucu - I am ok with him staying as he has been ok this season, however if the right money comes in then you have to take it owing to his fee and wages. 

Gallagher - I wouldn't sell him personally but imo we need a more progressive CM and unfortunately he is the easiest one to shift. Personally I would rather shift Caicedo but I know that just isn't realistic. 

Maatsen - personally I think he would be fine as a back-up but FFP and all that.

Sanchez 

Badiashile - I actually don't mind him. I think he had just been out of form owing to his bad injury and having to play next to that clown Disaster who has made everyone who had played alongside him this season look awful. 

 

Sell at any cost 

Disasi - guy is one of the worst players I have seen down Chelsea and I have been going since 1989. 

Kepa

Lukaku 

Sterling 

 

Loan 

Hutchinson - still too raw and drifts in and put of games. Ipswich again if promoted would be ideal. 

Broja - really need him to get a decent loan purely for FFP reasons. 

Santos - needs a full season

Lesley 

Alfie

Fofana 

Casadei 

 

Buy

GK - keep Sanchez if not

LB - Only if Cucu is sold. 

CB - Would love Silva but don't think that is realistic.

CM - need an experienced player who is progressive on the ball. 

CF - not convinced Fofana is the answer so we need someone. 

 

 

Edited May 3 by King Kante