lucio 5,418 Posted January 19, 2024 Share Posted January 19, 2024 8 minutes ago, whats happening said: man, if we sell gallagher to fucking tottenham i will be so mad. Who cares about losing him ? 3 goals in over 70 games and terrible technique. Take the cash and move forward with more talented players bigbluewillie and mkh 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted January 19, 2024 Share Posted January 19, 2024 2 hours ago, Vegetable said: Yeah, except the tiny detail most of those youngsters are grossly overpaid from the start, what complicates this plan a bit. Also, they fail to impress much, what complicates things even further. So who would those youngsters should be sold to to gain anything from the transaction (overinflated fee + salary invested + agents etc.)? Another Clearlake's entity is the only idea that comes to my mind, as Arsenal ended the phase when they apparently lost their sanity and mainly it's us who are mugged on transfer market, not the other way around. Precisely. We are doing the exact opposite of what bvb do. They buy little known players cheap or promote from their youth and sell them after they increased their market value by integrating them in a functioning unit with experienced mentors and a clear football identity that allows them to shine on the other hand, we buy flavour of the month hype boys at the all-time peak of their career valuation and tank their market value by aimlessly cramming them in a dysfunctional pool of other such nine-day wonders within a club in disarray and no existing identity whatsoever Blue Armour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,062 Posted January 20, 2024 Share Posted January 20, 2024 1 hour ago, Magic Lamps said: Precisely. We are doing the exact opposite of what bvb do. They buy little known players cheap or promote from their youth and sell them after they increased their market value by integrating them in a functioning unit with experienced mentors and a clear football identity that allows them to shine on the other hand, we buy flavour of the month hype boys at the all-time peak of their career valuation and tank their market value by aimlessly cramming them in a dysfunctional pool of other such nine-day wonders within a club in disarray and no existing identity whatsoever I wouldn't call Haaland "a little-known player." Players know they can use them as a stepping stop, which generally works for both parties. The situation here is completely different. Reddish-Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,510 Posted January 20, 2024 Share Posted January 20, 2024 4 hours ago, Magic Lamps said: Precisely. We are doing the exact opposite of what bvb do. They buy little known players cheap or promote from their youth and sell them after they increased their market value by integrating them in a functioning unit with experienced mentors and a clear football identity that allows them to shine on the other hand, we buy flavour of the month hype boys at the all-time peak of their career valuation and tank their market value by aimlessly cramming them in a dysfunctional pool of other such nine-day wonders within a club in disarray and no existing identity whatsoever They are also a stepping stone club and players know that going to Dortmund and doing relatively well should lead to a bigger transfer and bigger payday down the line. Between Sancho, Haaland and Bellingham, they were all well known talents before going to Dortmund, not like they were found in a random Ligue 1 or Brazilian club. LAM09 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,448 Posted January 20, 2024 Share Posted January 20, 2024 8 hours ago, Vegetable said: Yeah, except the tiny detail most of those youngsters are grossly overpaid from the start, what complicates this plan a bit. Also, they fail to impress much, what complicates things even further. So who would those youngsters should be sold to to gain anything from the transaction (overinflated fee + salary invested + agents etc.)? Another Clearlake's entity is the only idea that comes to my mind, as Arsenal ended the phase when they apparently lost their sanity and mainly it's us who are mugged on transfer market, not the other way around. They're turning Chelsea into another post-2004 Wenger era Arsenal. The only difference like you said, is that Chelsea is overpaying like crazy to acquire all this youth talent. Laylabelle and Fernando 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted January 20, 2024 Share Posted January 20, 2024 15 hours ago, Magic Lamps said: Precisely. We are doing the exact opposite of what bvb do. They buy little known players cheap or promote from their youth and sell them after they increased their market value by integrating them in a functioning unit with experienced mentors and a clear football identity that allows them to shine disagree for the most part Borussia Dortmund inbound transfers year by year: no little known buys (Nmecha was already a star at Wolfsburg, 9 total goals produced in only 1800 league minutes as a CMF/AMF/DMF, and he turned 23 right after Dortmund bought him, so hardly some teen youth) no little known actual 'money paid' buys other than the then-16yo (he turns 18yo in early May this season) Julien Duranville (who I had posted on before they bought him) no little known buys no little known buys no little known buys (all knew who Håland was, he was insane at RB Salzburg already, in the first half of 2019/20, he scored 28 goals and had 7 assists for them, 35 total goals produced in only 22 games. 9 of them were in the CL against Pool, Genk, and Napoli) no little known actual 'money paid' buys other than Leonardo Balerdi, who they sold at a loss to Marseille 2 and half years later (after loaning him there) LAM09 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted January 20, 2024 Share Posted January 20, 2024 Brighton have completed the signing of Valentin Barco. Looks a really technical LB. Will probably end up buying him for 100m in a few years. Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,482 Posted January 20, 2024 Share Posted January 20, 2024 23 minutes ago, DDA said: Brighton have completed the signing of Valentin Barco. Looks a really technical LB. Will probably end up buying him for 100m in a few years. Normal, our owners are Brightonsexuals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,418 Posted January 20, 2024 Share Posted January 20, 2024 I don't understand our board fascination with Brighton players. If you want their players so badly get the guys who identify them before they go there. If we wanted Barco which I know I saw some stuff a few weeks back about it we should have purchased him. However their are LB who could do a hell of a job and are a lot more durable than who we have there now. Ito from Stuttgart being one or even Melvin Bard from Nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,336 Posted January 20, 2024 Share Posted January 20, 2024 We paid already 200m for Sanchez, Caicedo and Cucurella. Plus Potter fee. Now this guy and Ferguson it would be half a billion. How much is FC Brighton? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted January 20, 2024 Share Posted January 20, 2024 Surely it would be cheaper to just buy Brighton as part of our multi club model? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted January 20, 2024 Share Posted January 20, 2024 18 minutes ago, DDA said: Surely it would be cheaper to just buy Brighton as part of our multi club model? I don’t think it’s allowed to own two teams in the same league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted January 20, 2024 Share Posted January 20, 2024 49 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: I don’t think it’s allowed to own two teams in the same league. Just as well. I wouldn't out it past our owners if we could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted January 21, 2024 Share Posted January 21, 2024 On 19/01/2024 at 22:00, lucio said: Who cares about losing him ? 3 goals in over 70 games and terrible technique. Take the cash and move forward with more talented players Gallagher is the only player in Europe's big five leagues this season with 20 or more shots, chances created, dribbles completed, touches in the opposition box, duels won, tackles and interceptions. Fulham Broadway, bigbluewillie and Fernando 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,719 Posted January 21, 2024 Share Posted January 21, 2024 19 minutes ago, Vesper said: Gallagher is the only player in Europe's big five leagues this season with 20 or more shots, chances created, dribbles completed, touches in the opposition box, duels won, tackles and interceptions. All that and no end production. Conor has been a lot better than last season, and I think he has caught a lot of us off guard. Saying that though, my mates who are fans of other teams have not been impressed by him. I remember a game where a lot of people here thought he was our best player, the Newcastle game we won I believe - and my mate a Newcastle fan came away saying Conor was horrid. The more I sit down and watch, you realise how he doesn't have the necessary skills to be playing where he is. He is an energy machine who drifts out of position, gets in areas he isn't helpful and gets a lot of touches that look good on paper. He really should be playing as a backup to Caicedo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted January 21, 2024 Share Posted January 21, 2024 23 minutes ago, Vesper said: Gallagher is the only player in Europe's big five leagues this season with 20 or more shots, chances created, dribbles completed, touches in the opposition box, duels won, tackles and interceptions. Taking bad touches in the opposition box , intercepting the ball just to lose it instantly and shooting without scoring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted January 21, 2024 Share Posted January 21, 2024 https://thedailybriefing.io/i/140798372/paris-saint-germain Corinthians president Augusto Melo has confirmed that Gabriel Moscardo can be considered a new PSG player. “The deal is done. Moscardo has been sold to Paris Saint-Germain. The story is over.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted January 21, 2024 Share Posted January 21, 2024 Good. We don't need yet another midfielder. We need finishers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted January 21, 2024 Share Posted January 21, 2024 (edited) Florian Wirtz - €130-150m https://thedailybriefing.io/i/140800040/bayer-leverkusen I think Leverkusen are very clear when it comes to Florian Wirtz. He wants to stay until 2025 if there’s Champions League football and Alonso is staying. But, there is an agreement in the club that he could leave for a fee of €130m minimum (there is some talk of €150m minimum). At the end, at both prices, there are not so many clubs that can pay that. There’s only one which is indeed interested, watching him very closely and can pay this amount - and that’s Manchester City. I think Bayern Munich will be out of the race with this asking price. If Manchester City make the move, they have a big chance to get the player. Pep Guardiola seems to be a big fan of him! He can play many positions (he’s not a like-for-like for Kevin De Bruyne but he can play this position). He could be a potential successor for De Bruyne perhaps, playing the position in his own way, which fits perfectly with Guardiola. Edited January 21, 2024 by Vesper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,494 Posted January 21, 2024 Share Posted January 21, 2024 Newcastle need funds to sign a midfielder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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