Mário César 1,284 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 I don think gallagher is good enough for a old classic Chelsea. he is good enough for now but we are seeing the worst Chelsea of the last 25 years if we sold gallagher and we get palhinha thats fine for me robsblubot and lucio 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Mário César said: I don think gallagher is good enough for a old classic Chelsea. he is good enough for now but we are seeing the worst Chelsea of the last 25 years if we sold gallagher and we get palhinha thats fine for me good point. It's all relative isn't it? Like if we wanted to be champions, which implies our midfield would need to have players as good as the ones who got silverware, then no, he's not the answer for the starting XI. In the current situ which means we will need another 1-2 transfer windows to become competitive again, then maybe we can keep him and see how he develops. On the other hand, getting someone experienced like Palinha might help the team, and in turn, the development of the younger players. He's a guy who can control tempo and is physically strong, which IMO is a weakness the team has atm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,448 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: Poch vs the board already: There's no such thing as Chelsea youth player, unless it's a Boehly-Clearlake certified Chelsea youth player. Posers probably want to replace all of the previous regime's players with their own signings, and also make a profit on the way. Edited December 19, 2023 by Blue Armour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,448 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 (edited) In all seriousness, it's because Clearlake want everyone to sign those ridiculous long term contracts, and Gallagher (rightly so) has second thoughts about it. These long term contracts remind me of how NBA player Scottie Pippen re-signed a long term contract with the Bulls, when he came on as a rookie, and then stayed stuck with a lower than deserved salary for a long period of time. Clearly that's why Clearlake want our players to do the same. Edited December 19, 2023 by Blue Armour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,494 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 7 hours ago, Mário César said: I don think gallagher is good enough for a old classic Chelsea. he is good enough for now but we are seeing the worst Chelsea of the last 25 years if we sold gallagher and we get palhinha thats fine for me Another defensive mid? We should get a mid who's good going forward. Odegaard-lite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,337 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 16 minutes ago, Strike said: Another defensive mid? We should get a mid who's good going forward. Odegaard-lite That's a player I would accept selling Gallagher for. Musiala. OneMoSalah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,225 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 hour ago, NikkiCFC said: That's a player I would accept selling Gallagher for. Musiala. world class players likely will no longer come here why the hell would Musiala leave a top 3 club in the world for one who may end up 10th to 15th or so in the LEAGUE? Same I fear for Osimhen, Wirtz, Leão, Kvaratskhelia, Hakimi, Xavi Simons, Alphonso Davies, Kimmich, Nuno Mendes, Lautaro, Dušan Vlahović, Bremer, Barella, Diogo Costa. Oblak, Mike Maignan, António Silva, Bastoni, Giorgio Scalvini, Frimpong, Theo Hernandez, Nahuel Molina. Federico Dimarco, etc etc Boehly has destroyed us (no CL, probably for years, and if the Roman illegal money shit blows up, we may well be forcibly relegated down the road) the more I see the full picture, the more distraught I am becoming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,225 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 (edited) we will be lucky as fuck to grab Toney and Mamardashvili cannot see anything better at those 2 positions coming here we are well fucked for fullback and centre back recruitment winger too Edited December 19, 2023 by Vesper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,225 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Kudus, btw if you posit a 4000 minute season is tracking atm to 30 goals, 5 assists, all comps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 2 hours ago, Vesper said: Kudus, btw if you posit a 4000 minute season is tracking atm to 30 goals, 5 assists, all comps But bloated by 3 goals in EL quali and some more vs inferior opposition in EL and EFL cup. Not sold on him yet. I think for once we made the better deal with Palmer Strike and Hamilton 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 6 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: That's a player I would accept selling Gallagher for. Musiala. Yeah thats not gonna happen. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,720 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 4 hours ago, Vesper said: we will be lucky as fuck to grab Toney and Mamardashvili cannot see anything better at those 2 positions coming here we are well fucked for fullback and centre back recruitment winger too Toney is ass. Isn't better than Jackson. Give the boys time. Mamar is good choice. mkh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,720 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 4 hours ago, Vesper said: world class players likely will no longer come here why the hell would Musiala leave a top 3 club in the world for one who may end up 10th to 15th or so in the LEAGUE? Same I fear for Osimhen, Wirtz, Leão, Kvaratskhelia, Hakimi, Xavi Simons, Alphonso Davies, Kimmich, Nuno Mendes, Lautaro, Dušan Vlahović, Bremer, Barella, Diogo Costa. Oblak, Mike Maignan, António Silva, Bastoni, Giorgio Scalvini, Frimpong, Theo Hernandez, Nahuel Molina. Federico Dimarco, etc etc Boehly has destroyed us (no CL, probably for years, and if the Roman illegal money shit blows up, we may well be forcibly relegated down the road) the more I see the full picture, the more distraught I am becoming Half those players are worse than what we have here. We have some mismatched pieces trying to fit and learn how to play together. Takes time. Y'all can't even give Poch 17 games before calling it quits - and he hasn't had a full roster the entire time. Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,393 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Pochettino obviously wants to keep Gallagher, but these wrongers want to get rid of him our best player of the season in January like Chalobah . For what to take another Brazillian . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, milka said: Pochettino obviously wants to keep Gallagher, but these wrongers want to get rid of him our best player of the season in January like Chalobah . For what to take another Brazillian . Chalobah, Broja and Maatsen should be sold first before Gallagher. I was sad with Maatsen as I expect more of him, but I guess he will go. Gallagher should not be sold unless we get an obscene amount of money like 100 million or something like that. Edited December 19, 2023 by Fernando Strike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 5 hours ago, Thor said: Half those players are worse than what we have here. We have some mismatched pieces trying to fit and learn how to play together. Takes time. Y'all can't even give Poch 17 games before calling it quits - and he hasn't had a full roster the entire time. Same, I still like poch. He is the one manager that really needs time. With Tuchel I was a fan but I always saw him as a short term manager. He was not a good manager to build a team for 5 years. Poch is and he will be adjusting and seeing who should go and who should come. We need to take a stand and back Poch. For me at least till next season, if by next season in December we are still the same then I will worried. But I expected these results from the get go, we are not stable yet, but it should grow little by little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,225 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 7 hours ago, Magic Lamps said: But bloated by 3 goals in EL quali and some more vs inferior opposition in EL and EFL cup. Not sold on him yet. I think for once we made the better deal with Palmer I think he could have coexisted with Palmer and remember, he is doing thsi on a fairly quotidian West Ham team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,225 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 6 hours ago, Thor said: Toney is ass. Isn't better than Jackson. Give the boys time. Mamar is good choice. we need a CF IMHO and the top ones (I already listed them above) will not come here I wager I rate Toney, but only at a fair price robsblubot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,225 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 6 hours ago, Thor said: Half those players are worse than what we have here. No, no they are not (especially as Reece and Fofana look either perma fucked (Fofana) or on the road to it (Reece) atm, and dog helps us if Nkunku goes that route as well). Those I listed are literally most of the top players on the planet (I listed players from pretty much every position) who would be remotely (some very remotely) available to us in normal Chels circumstances (no, Mbappe would very likely not come here even if we were at 2016 to 2021 levels) and are under 30yo. I also did not list youth players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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