bluesman2610 1,430 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 The one keeper I truly wanted Yassine Bono is off the table as he looks set to go to Saudi for €21m. That is an absolute steal I’ve been saying Sevilla we’re in financial trouble even after winning Europa league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,228 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Duppy Conqueror said: Grew up as a Newcastle fan,when he is london born ,is 18 and been at Chelsea for last 11 years? Hmmmm.... Accurate. His dad is from the North-East. In fact, their whole family are big Newcastle fans, stemming from the grandfather. Playing for our academy has a lot of benefits, compared to joining Newcastle's academy. Much better facilities and development plan. But yeah, his brothers, father and grandfather are all Geordies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,799 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 He maybe a Geordie but it is unwise to sell him even at a decent price like 35m. He just signed a 6+1 year contract and we don't know what the situation is with Maatsen's contract talks. A loan would be best for all parties - his value is only going to rise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,799 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Will be disappointing if the Lavia move led to the Hall sale to raise funds. Would rather have sold Gallagher/Chalobah Norfolkblue1961 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,113 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 9 hours ago, whats happening said: brighton are buying valentino barco, one of the biggest talents in the world. he's a left back. so i can see us buying him for like 120m in two years 😍 bit out over the skis with the hype on him at this point IMHO he lacks size and pace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,681 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 4 hours ago, Strike said: Will be disappointing if the Lavia move led to the Hall sale to raise funds. Would rather have sold Gallagher/Chalobah I would think the Hall deal isn't related to a potential Chalobah/Gallagher sale. Hall's transfer fee would probably go straight to Palace for Olise (if that's still happening...) If Gallagher is likely to be sold, then that would cover a large part of the Lavia deal. 5 hours ago, Strike said: He maybe a Geordie but it is unwise to sell him even at a decent price like 35m. He just signed a 6+1 year contract and we don't know what the situation is with Maatsen's contract talks. A loan would be best for all parties - his value is only going to rise 35m is alright if it includes future sell-on clauses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lluubbeenn 188 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 I prefer a buy back clause than a sell on one. If he explodes up north Newcastle wont sell him. They are super rich and on the up. If he flops what is the point of a sell on. We will pocket up to 5 mil. At the end of the day 35 million pounds sounds reasonable for Hall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepower777 57 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 We should have kept Hall, he has extreme talent and we need Gallagher as well cause we don't have another player with his all round attributes, I admit he does lack a bit of ball creatively but not many players do have that, Mount had zero creatively but was still a regular. We need players that give 100%, a 💯 percent times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulvhedin 526 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 I know Cucurella is terrible but am I missing something with Hall? He was ok but nothing spectacular last season, has an attacking instinct but is bad in finishing, also made some terrible mistakes while trying to dribble near penalty area. If he wasn't from Cobham noone would give a shit about him. Hamilton, Massie, NikkiCFC and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mhsc 1,146 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, ulvhedin said: I know Cucurella is terrible but am I missing something with Hall? He was ok but nothing spectacular last season, has an attacking instinct but is bad in finishing, also made some terrible mistakes while trying to dribble near penalty area. If he wasn't from Cobham noone would give a shit about him. Hall is being very highly rated due to his level for his age, rather than his actual current level. He could develop into a quality player, clearly has good technique and physical traits but hasn't developed composure or a tonne of game IQ yet. He will definitely be a premier league level player in the long run but as always the question is will he not just be a premier league level player but a Chelsea level player? IMO that is far from guaranteed. Hall has asked to leave on a permanent deal instead of on loan and wants to play for Newcastle not CFC. Sell him with a huge sell on clause and ideally a buy back clause imo. If in the future he wants to be here and we want him here we will make it happen, if not then it was not meant to be. I honestly think we have no choice but to sell pretty much all of our academy players to pay off the level of spend we're now at - Chalobah, Hall, Gallagher and maybe Maatsen as well. We have spent an insane amount of money and it will take an insane amount of sales not just in this window but in every window going forward to stay on top of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,146 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) Also, it is really sad to see people on Twitter already throwing Lavia under a bus and writing him off now that Hall rumours are out. There is no way these two interactions are directly related. We need to sell a lot of academy players for profit because we're going to end up spending probably something close to £1bn by the time the window is done, part of which is of course Lavia but part of which is also Cucu, Sterling... It is more fair to say that we need to sell Hall to cover Sterling than Lavia imo. We have a min of £150m (probably £160m+ in reality?) or so annual ammortization costs to cover which means we need to sell a lot of players for more than their net book value every single year on average. I imagine if we had loaned Hall it was only to try to increase his value for a sale in 2024. Yeah it is sad but this is the reality of spending £1bn to build an incredible first team in the financial fair play era. Edited August 17, 2023 by Mhsc Fernando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Thor 2,828 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Bluepower777 said: We should have kept Hall, he has extreme talent and we need Gallagher as well cause we don't have another player with his all round attributes, I admit he does lack a bit of ball creatively but not many players do have that, Mount had zero creatively but was still a regular. We need players that give 100%, a 💯 percent times. Yeah - we are all devastated Mr.100% Mount is gone. Norfolkblue1961 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,648 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Get Mamadarashvili. bigbluewillie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vegetable 830 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 57 minutes ago, TheHulk said: Is that another baseless bs drama just to inflate the price for us? I see it rephrased 834 time, still zero details. 8 minutes ago, Thor said: Yeah - we are all devastated Mr.100% Mount is gone. I think problem with selling talented academy players lies elsewhere and it's more about losing some identity with them - we have launched all that heritage/cobham thing few years ago and still trying to ride it, at the same time our academy "heritage" comes down to James and maybe Colwill if he will perform, as Chalobah, Connor and Broja may be as good as gone. So what's the point of top academy then, if there is no way to first team even more, than before? Blue Armour 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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