Reddish-Blue 2,512 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 11 minutes ago, robsblubot said: That's the situation. I don't disagree that that's the situation, I do disagree with the notion that they can't turn it around with the players they've got. They have more than enough quality to make it top 4. For me the biggest match-winners in the PL are Haaland, Salah, and Kane... KDB would be there too, but seems to be struggling physically. I think they did well getting rid of Fabinho; never rated him (he was good early on tho) and thought he was the main reason they've been struggling in the middle of the park lately. They made some bets the same way we did, so if we assume ours will work out, we can assume some of theirs will too. Plus they've got more established players than we do. VDK is a working system away from returning to some sort of form... still a great CB in my book. Getting a good CM is still easier than finding match-winning players; that's been the case since football was born. If getting a good CM was that easy, we should have had our signings completed by now. Also, a good CM can turn into a match-winner or game changer with their influence in midfield (just look at Casemiro for United, Rodri for City, even Kante at the peak of his powers). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,344 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, Reddish-Blue said: If getting a good CM was that easy, we should have had our signings completed by now. Also, a good CM can turn into a match-winner or game changer with their influence in midfield (just look at Casemiro for United, Rodri for City, even Kante at the peak of his powers). We gonna have 2 most expensive midfielders in the history of football. That's crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vytis33 1,276 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Norfolkblue1961 and Mattill 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,821 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 I went to sleep last night Caicedo was on his way to Liverpool. I hope to wake up for the Arsenal game to hear he is a Blue! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,235 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 7 hours ago, Pizy said: That he hasn’t yet and has been given a squad number suggests to me that he will be kept. £23m Chelsea youngster is the ‘most likely’ player to join https://www.thechelseachronicle.com/transfer-news/23m-Chelsea-youngster-is-the-most-likely-player-to-join-strasbourg-next-on-loan/ Chelsea youngster Lesley Ugochukwu could be heading to France to join Ligue 1 club Strasbourg. That is according to a report from The Evening Standard. Blues attacker Angelo Gabriel, 18, completed his move earlier this week to Strasbourg. It sounds like the business between the two clubs isn’t done yet, which is no big surprise as the Blues have a majority stake in the French side as they build a multi-club model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Reddish-Blue said: If getting a good CM was that easy, we should have had our signings completed by now. Also, a good CM can turn into a match-winner or game changer with their influence in midfield (just look at Casemiro for United, Rodri for City, even Kante at the peak of his powers). Never said that it was easy, but easier. Also far less expensive... the top attacking players are mostly unattainably expensive. I've also said "good" CMs, not "the very best." Casemiro for Real Madrid you mean. Casemiro had plenty of support of amazing attacking players in all the silverware they've got. City has been collecting silverware well before Rodri. Yes, these players can give you the stability and improve your chances esp in CL, but you still need your match-winners to score in those tight games, which is why they went all-in for haaland; reckon they'd not even be in the final without him. Kante was indeed amazing, but once again, it was Mbappe scoring that put France over the line. Every WC champion will have a very special attacking player in the starting XI... not so much CM. I'm not even going into our CL title because that seems to be a can of worms because of the players who left. 😅 Edited August 12, 2023 by robsblubot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,235 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 59 minutes ago, Reddish-Blue said: If his father didn't play for them in the past, Haaland wouldn't be at City right now. Bellingham turned them down in favor of Real Madrid. Non sequitur, sorry. There is no linear proof of the 2nd positing actually confirming the first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: I went to sleep last night Caicedo was on his way to Liverpool. I hope to wake up for the Arsenal game to hear he is a Blue! that's your own fault; you are clearly in "the wrong timezone" 😃 (so am I, btw) 😉 Edited August 12, 2023 by robsblubot ZAPHOD2319 and Vesper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,509 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Didn't get why Chelsea triggered Tyler Adams release clause. Could have picked him up if Lavia did not join. Too caught up in transfer poker. Hope they seal the moves this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyeye 7,511 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 this shit is dragging on for far too long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,235 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 6 hours ago, Pizy said: Man, I’m not even paying attention to the Lavia stuff at this moment. I just want confirmation that we’ve bid again for Caicedo and have been given the green light by Brighton. Lavia afterwards would be the super bonus on top. Get Caicedo sorted first! and Kudus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,235 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 2 hours ago, robsblubot said: VVD is a working system away from returning to some sort of form a good partner away I would not want any of these (pretty overrated IMHO, barring some out-of-the-blue major breakthrough in form) on our squad (other than maybe the ageing but good for one more season Matip as a one year stop-gap backup IF we sell Trevoh and (as is likely) buy no replacement this window) robsblubot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Tyler is superb when he plays for USA national team (but Pulisic also is). Could it be though that we are underestimating him because of the overall predicament of Leeds ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrenshah 186 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 1 hour ago, cosmicway said: Tyler is superb when he plays for USA national team (but Pulisic also is). Could it be though that we are underestimating him because of the overall predicament of Leeds ? Have a feeling we will still get adsms and caicedo Adams deal is all signed but we just putting up a smokescreen to scare liverpool regarding lavia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero 1,875 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Today is the day! shrenshah and Hamilton 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa19 858 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 16 minutes ago, Nero said: Today is the day! We all hope! Im soooo ready for the Pornstein dagger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artandur 939 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Apparently Adams might have failed his medical with us, that explains a lot Mhsc and Vesper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,235 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Out! 5.0 update 8 or 9 to go IF we buy another CF I am all down to sell Broja Faustino Anjorin is off the list as he is staying (loan) Saudis are deffo in the mix to sell to for some of these Edouard Mendy Kalidou Koulibaly Marc Cucurella César Azpilicueta Conor Gallagher Ruben Loftus-Cheek Mason Mount Christian Pulisic Hakim Ziyech Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang Raheem Sterling Trevoh Chalobah — DF Wales WAL Ethan Ampadu (at Spezia until 30 June 2023) — DF Ghana GHA Baba Rahman (at Reading until 30 June 2023) — DF France FRA Malang Sarr (at Monaco until 30 June 2023) — DF England ENG Dujon Sterling (at Stoke City until 30 June 2023) — MF France FRA Tiémoué Bakayoko (at AC Milan until 30 June 2023) — FW England ENG Callum Hudson-Odoi (at Bayer Leverkusen until 30 June 2023) — FW Belgium BEL Romelu Lukaku (at Inter Milan until 30 June 2023) plus now also gone Kai Kova Kante Denis Zakaria João Félix mkh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin123 538 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 21 hours ago, shrenshah said: He wont, get over it guys...not the end of the world Club was doing the right thing offering 80-90mn odd on the higher side, he aint worth anything near 110mn (Its a massive overpay). He was the best option available but thats about it. I wouldnt buy another makeshift DM right now, we should wait for the right oppurtunity/player (Someone like a Tchouameni might just become available later). Also we need to stop transactions with Brighton with immediate effect, they got their way cause of silly Liverpool. I knew a little something... He will 100% play for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,154 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 The deal has been agreed- we are sending documents this morning. Things go to plan Sir Romano should be saying the three words later today 👍🏻 Thor, Costa19 and Fernando 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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