bluesman2610 1,430 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 33 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said: I have a wider perspective (through age), there have been worse seasons Oh I’m aware of worse seasons - I’m not as young as I may have lead on. I just mean I’ve been in the premier league era only 93 could be classified as worse that 15/16 for all we had achieved. We literally won the league in 14/15. Same players and I remember the term rats being thrown around a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, whats happening said: they were unaware of his attitude before all of this? also i still dont get it why we need kudus or any other attacking midfielder. Dont think so, but if u have a few players on your list u have to choose one and this attribute is maybe the decisive one to rule him out. We need Kudus bc the only backup for Nkunku as nr 10 is Gallagher or Chuwku (who will go on loan?). Im not sure we want that. Edited July 28, 2023 by Gundalf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Caicedo is starting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,950 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Just now, ZAPHOD2319 said: Yes they can loan him for 40m Norfolkblue1961 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Vegetable said: I think the thing with Enzo is that people jumped on some crazy hypetrain of him and are circling the earth about third time now. He surely has very desirable skillset and big talent, but to my naked eye he performed just a bit better than most of the team, yet people were justifying his pricetag with his supposed bossing the league and ending our troubles since day 1. This deffo didn't happen. Then some people just went radio silence and some claimed he will shine when the team will be adjusted for him. Fair point, but I doubt we actually did build a team around him this window. So jury is still out on him for me. He is quality player, but is he the promised elite quality, we will see. He was the top end percentile for pretty much every relevant metric. Under Potter/Bruno he averaged 11 succesful switch/long passes per game which is prime Pirlo level good. Pizy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,950 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 A loan with an obligation to buy is not bad. They might be desperate after their fine and no European football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,105 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 6 hours ago, LAM09 said: Same reason Nkunku did, same reason Szoboszlai joined Liverpool—our current positions are temporary. Also, as the former mentioned in a recent interview, our project is appealing (just look at the post above). Barella is seemingly earning around £155kpw. Going up to £200kpw with bonuses attached isn't something I'd deem extreme, all things considered. LAM09 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 16 minutes ago, Tomo said: He was the top end percentile for pretty much every relevant metric. Under Potter/Bruno he averaged 11 succesful switch/long passes per game which is prime Pirlo level good. He's got really good technique esp passing ability... there is no question there. His defensive numbers are on the weak side, as one can perceive while watching him play. Not great aerial duels, but that comes from his height. Perhaps defending isn't really his thing, which is why we are looking for a more defensive player to play alongside him. Thought he had a few poor games toward the end of the season, but that can be attributed to a number of different things. Numbers are funny though... for example take 21/22 season stats for ex: Kevin De Bruyne: 15 goals, 8 assist Mason Mount: 11 goals, 10 assist If you read the posts on mount here today and you'd question whether he's a professional footballer much less a millionaire. 😅 I still expect Enzo to give us a competitive advantage, but that still has to happen. We need to enable him, put him in a position so that he can do just that. Don't think this is going to be that season, I'm afraid, but let's see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,950 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Truth ElBanix, truth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,674 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 28 minutes ago, robsblubot said: Numbers are funny though... for example take 21/22 season stats for ex: Kevin De Bruyne: 15 goals, 8 assist Mason Mount: 11 goals, 10 assist If you read the posts on mount here today and you'd question whether he's a professional footballer much less a millionaire. 😅 @robsblubot Think it's important to understand whether those goals/assists were against decent opposition or just stat padding. In Mount's case, he got 7 or 8 of those goals against Norwich, Southampton, Watford, Everton... Feel like our attack will be better off without Mount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, Reddish-Blue said: @robsblubot Think it's important to understand whether those goals/assists were against decent opposition or just stat padding. In Mount's case, he got 7 or 8 of those goals against Norwich, Southampton, Watford, Everton... Feel like our attack will be better off without Mount. Fair enough... still I know what I saw in that CL run. 🤷♂️ Highest level there is. Heh we've replaced players who delivered before with players who are largely unknowns. I'm even beginning to suspect that Sterling is the Oscar case, not Mount--player who's run into the ground playing years in a demanding role. My money is on a stuttering attack, and team, but let's see. I'd be pleasantly surprised with a mere fight for top4 this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 10,237 Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 Watching Caicedo now vs Newcastle. He is just pure class the lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,950 Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 20 minutes ago, DDA said: Watching Caicedo now vs Newcastle. He is just pure class the lad. Watching also. He always seems to know where he is going with the ball as he receives it. Processes what is happening quickly. DDA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,280 Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 20 minutes ago, DDA said: Watching Caicedo now vs Newcastle. He is just pure class the lad. Yeah, from what I’m reading on Twitter he’s looking very good already in his first start back. We HAVE to try one last almighty push to convince Brighton within the next few days. One last massive offer. This is a signing that totally elevates our team. DDA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDY 1,290 Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 Caicedo looks far better on the ball than I thought he was. Shame him and his agent have a had a mare, dumb and dumber. Shouldn't be playing if he was so intent on a move. DDA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 10,237 Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 He looks asif he isn't even trying. A little annoyed to be there almost... is he normally like that on the pitch, I mean is that his style or is he genuinely annoyed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 That Mitoma guy is pure class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,430 Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 Just now, Gundalf said: That Mitoma guy is pure class No more Brighton players after this please bigbluewillie and Vegetable 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,647 Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 Bring him home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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