LAM09 7,063 Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Tomo said: And how do we know the "proven goalscorer" guarantees us top four? But to answer your question I want us to be back challenging for the league again properly, if in hypothetical world missing out again is the cost of building something more sustainable while the alternative is a sticky plaster top four finish ala United season just gone or Tottenham in 21/22 then yes the former. We don't. However, it will help massively, going by the amount of points we dropped last season alone, thanks to a makeshift frontline that would even make a non-league side feel ashamed. As do I. I just believe we can't afford to miss out again, as potential signings will start to think more about the lack of European football than our recent triumphs. In addition, considering the amount we've spent (probably adding another £150-200m from now), it isn't too much to ask to have a long term plan in place while also expecting results on the field. Edited July 2, 2023 by LAM09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,231 Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 On 29/06/2023 at 19:14, MoroccanBlue said: 250-300kpw on a 6 year deal. Yeah good fucking bye. 😂 potentially £153.6m total cost for 6 years he will turn 31yo in early winter of the season starting after his contract expires Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duppy Conqueror 1,543 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 1 hour ago, turgi said: We had some good dealings with Lyon in the past be good to get that back and just cut ties with both Milan clubs (even tho AC are the lesser of two evils) Reddish-Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,503 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 11 hours ago, Pizy said: Looks like Liverpool will make their move for Lavia next. Must say, they’re making some fantastic moves so far. They get Szoboszlai, Mac Allister, and Lavia that is an amazing and total midfield rebuild. They’d go from the old guard of Henderson, Fabinho, and Thiago who can barely move about the pitch any longer to 3 midfielders who can do it all and who are all very young. I’m jealous of them having not seen what we’re doing in midfield yet. 😒 I am liking the maniacal control from the board, Poch to be sensible this summer. They are driving hard bargains and sticking to valuations when negotiating for players. Nkunku, Gusto, Jackson seem sensible moves and many high wage earners have left. Liverpool may end up rebuilding their midfield but I’m not feeling any panic because of the course correction done this window. I’m open to spreading out the signings we need over windows. Wait for the right opportunities bigbluewillie and DDA 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,945 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Strike said: I am liking the maniacal control from the board, Poch to be sensible this summer. They are driving hard bargains and sticking to valuations when negotiating for players. Nkunku, Gusto, Jackson seem sensible moves and many high wage earners have left. Liverpool may end up rebuilding their midfield but I’m not feeling any panic because of the course correction done this window. I’m open to spreading out the signings we need over windows. Wait for the right opportunities Fully agree with this. The board are also doing a great job soo far in terms of the outgoings which have proven to be an incredible display of doing what's necessary. Edited July 3, 2023 by DDA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 (edited) So now we went from considering Mudryk absolute shit to considering him great, because he does well in U21 tournament, which is pretty much the same thing as PL football, if I understand correctly? The Chelsea thing 🤣 Edited July 3, 2023 by Vegetable Fernando and enzoforever 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,279 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 17 minutes ago, Vegetable said: So now we went from considering Mudryk absolute shit to considering him great, because he does well in U21 tournament, which is pretty much the same thing as PL football, if I understand correctly? The Chelsea thing 🤣 Well mudryk is a future talent, he was bought on potential, and he just ripped his generation of french players a new arse hole. Costa19 and mkh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,512 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 6 hours ago, Duppy Conqueror said: We had some good dealings with Lyon in the past be good to get that back and just cut ties with both Milan clubs (even tho AC are the lesser of two evils) Wonder if they have any midfielders available (the last one we got from Lyon turned out to be pretty good)...considering we're short in midfield heading into next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,098 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Vegetable said: So now we went from considering Mudryk absolute shit to considering him great, because he does well in U21 tournament, which is pretty much the same thing as PL football, if I understand correctly? The Chelsea thing 🤣 I do not think he is shit and never have. He is like Salah or KDB when we had them: terrifyingly promising, but not the finished article yet. Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,147 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 Need to see things starting to happen this week. Caicedo we should at least hear about some engagement with Brighton. Come on FFS lets get some deals done xPetrCechx and Vesper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 50 minutes ago, Mhsc said: I do not think he is shit and never have. He is like Salah or KDB when we had them: terrifyingly promising, but not the finished article yet. I just find it funny how sinusoidal opinions on our players get, while truth is usually somewhat more balanced. I'm happy for his international performance, but remember his games here, so I'll be delighted if he will manage to perform anything like that against any league team as the difficulty level raises significantly here. enzoforever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Vegetable said: I just find it funny how sinusoidal opinions on our players get, while truth is usually somewhat more balanced. I'm happy for his international performance, but remember his games here, so I'll be delighted if he will manage to perform anything like that against any league team as the difficulty level raises significantly here. Don’t think there is reason to reconsider anything on Mudryk yet. He has shown he can shine in Ukrainian league and youth level before so nothing new yesterday. But has not really produced much on PL level so far. I liked his performance yesterday, it should give him confidence but it is all worth nothing if he can’t transfer it. Even Gael Kakuta completely ripped some u21 euros over a decade ago. Vegetable and Vesper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,147 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 Poch has arrived Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,393 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 xPetrCechx, Blue Armour, bluesman2610 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,078 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 28 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: Don’t think there is reason to reconsider anything on Mudryk yet. He has shown he can shine in Ukrainian league and youth level before so nothing new yesterday. But has not really produced much on PL level so far. I liked his performance yesterday, it should give him confidence but it is all worth nothing if he can’t transfer it. Even Gael Kakuta completely ripped some u21 euros over a decade ago. First time I saw Gael play was a youth team game at The Bridge, think it was against Cardiff, and I'm sad to say that I wrote off his first team chances within 20 minutes of kick-off. I've been as disappointed as anyone with Mykhailo, but I'm not at the point yet where I've written him off. Already feels though that the early part of the season will be his last chance saloon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,147 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 Money Mase has arrived at Carrington for his medical. Reddish-Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa19 858 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 39 minutes ago, milka said: PATRÓN arrives Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,728 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 53 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said: First time I saw Gael play was a youth team game at The Bridge, think it was against Cardiff, and I'm sad to say that I wrote off his first team chances within 20 minutes of kick-off. I've been as disappointed as anyone with Mykhailo, but I'm not at the point yet where I've written him off. Already feels though that the early part of the season will be his last chance saloon. It’s been 15 games…. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 3 hours ago, Vegetable said: So now we went from considering Mudryk absolute shit to considering him great, because he does well in U21 tournament, which is pretty much the same thing as PL football, if I understand correctly? The Chelsea thing 🤣 Find me the posts of one poster who said he was shit before and done a total 180 based on this match. OhForAGreavsie, Vesper and Strike 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duppy Conqueror 1,543 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 3 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said: Wonder if they have any midfielders available (the last one we got from Lyon turned out to be pretty good)...considering we're short in midfield heading into next season. Maxence Caqueret is pretty good there. Bit of a golden oldie by our current standards though as he's 23. They have quite a strong group of young players at various positions. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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