DDA 9,983 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Tomo said: I'm usually far from someone who wants youngsters chucked in just because but Colwill is James 2019 level of next to sure thing. But his point is... Colwill is unproven at Premier League level.. Ake is. That matters. YorkshireBlue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero 1,877 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 We should buy Guehi back instead of Ake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,295 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 10 minutes ago, Tomo said: I'm usually far from someone who wants youngsters chucked in just because but Colwill is James 2019 level of next to sure thing. I agree he looks good but Premier league is a different beast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Kong said: Colwill is already the superior player? Based on what exactly? Just look at him. I did not know either before @Tomo told me but then I took the time and watched some matches and match highlights of Colwill and he is just so much better than Ake at everything. Pace, strength, overall athleticism, ability on the ball, reading of the game, dribbling, passing range. Ake is just a fraud, he would instantly be our second worst defender after Sarr. The only thing Ake has ever proven is that he is not good enough. Alabama 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,295 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: Just look at him. I did not know either before @Tomo told me but then I took the time and watched some matches and match highlights of Colwill and he is just so much better than Ake at everything. Pace, strength, overall athleticism, ability on the ball, reading of the game, dribbling, passing range. Ake is just a fraud, he would instantly be our second worst defender after Sarr. The only thing Ake has ever proven is that he is not good enough. Sorry but until he plays in the Premier league you simply can't compare them. Relying on a youngster woth no Premier league experience is suicide ake may not be brilliant but last few years he's trained with one of the best managers and players in the league, am hoping him givien a real shot he just might come good. Pep obviously saw something in him. Edited July 12, 2022 by Kong Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pizy 18,984 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Right, so the easy bit is done which was agreeing on KK’s side. Now for the hard bit where everything can fall apart: dealing with that asshole De Laurentiis who could wake up one morning and decide to add €20m to the asking price. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Kong said: I agree he looks good but Premier league is a different beast. 31 minutes ago, DDA said: But his point is... Colwill is unproven at Premier League level.. Ake is. That matters. This year it's PL proven if he went out and showed he could handle this league on loan at say Southampton the next argument will be he's not proven here. Sometimes (like with James) it's just too obvious. FYI I'm not even against signing Ake aslong as the price is right, there's room for both. 24 minutes ago, Kong said: Sorry but until he plays in the Premier league you simply can't compare them. Relying on a youngster woth no Premier league experience is suicide But what if we had that mindset with James, Mount and even Trevoh to an extent? If Todd was demanding the title at all costs I could (somewhat) understand it but Tuchel is too good a manager to fail at top four. Edited July 12, 2022 by Tomo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pizy 18,984 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 I think 3 new, expensive CB’s is overkill. Unless Colwill is going out on loan again. Use the money on a wingback! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,322 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 kimpembe + ake + koulibaly not bad at all chilwell (emerson/ake) Koulibaly Thiago Sivla (ake/chalobah/dude from our academy/Kimpembe) Reece James (RWB/??) this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Just now, Mário César said: kimpembe + ake + koulibaly not bad at all chilwell (emerson/ake) Koulibaly Thiago Sivla (ake/chalobah/dude from our academy/Kimpembe) Reece James (RWB/??) this? Law implied it's either Ake or Kimpembe. Magic Lamps 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama 1,992 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 3 defenders is an overkill...pull out of Ake deal and sign Kimpembe.... Magic Lamps and bigbluewillie 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,322 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Just now, Blues Forever said: Law implied it's either Ake or Kimpembe. what you prefer? Ake or kimpembe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Just now, Mário César said: what you prefer? Ake or kimpembe? None of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artandur 939 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Hope the third "defender" he is referring to is a wing back Magic Lamps 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,984 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 I don’t even rate Kimpembe but would still prefer him than spending £45-50m on Aké. bigbluewillie and guddy69 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,295 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 21 minutes ago, Tomo said: This year it's PL proven if he went out and showed he could handle this league on loan at say Southampton the next argument will be he's not proven here. Sometimes (like with James) it's just too obvious. FYI I'm not even against signing Ake aslong as the price is right, there's room for both. But what if we had that mindset with James, Mount and even Trevoh to an extent? If Todd was demanding the title at all costs I could (somewhat) understand it but Tuchel is too good a manager to fail at top four. Your missing my point entirely. My original post was asking why he thought colwill is superior to ake I was saying he isn't Premier league proven so as it stands you can't compare the players I haven't once said don't play him. Boycie and Tomo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelsea_4_eva 1,182 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 I think TT should assess Colwill first before pulling the trigger on Ake, a move which will cost us £45M if City dont lower their demand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,458 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Tomo said: Colwill is the key for me, aslong as there's a pathway for him that matters the most this summer. Agreed. If we sign Koulibaly, I would hope we hold off on buying Ake. Let Colwill come in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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