Chelsea Transfers

[Pizy 18,368]

So many conflicting reports. After Dembele and Raphinha I’m not going to get my hopes up.

[Mário César 973]

19 minutes ago, Pizy said:

So many conflicting reports. After Dembele and Raphinha I’m not going to get my hopes up.

yes

at least more a couple of days and we all know what will happen

at least until wednesday we all know if we will sign kounde or not

[Pizy 18,368]

Lots of complaints about Koundé’s height here and elsewhere but United have just signed a genuinely tiny CB for £55m. Koundé looks gigantic compared to Lisandro Martinez.

[MoroccanBlue 5,296]

It makes more sense to prioritise Kounde over Kimpembe. 

Kounde will take that RCB spot and Koulibaly the LCB. 

[Alabama 1,992]

4 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Lots of complaints about Koundé’s height here and elsewhere but United have just signed a genuinely tiny CB for £55m. Koundé looks gigantic compared to Lisandro Martinez.

Including the fact that posters here rated De Ligt(though good) than him is so enigmatic...

[Artandur 939]

Kounde feels like another doomed pursuit anyways. Hope we don't waste too much time on him

[Blue Armour 4,278]

5 hours ago, Pizy said:

If we can somehow land both Kimpembe & Koundé from here that would be an insane rebuild of our defense in a single window. And it would hopefully mean we never have to see Sarr in a Chelsea shirt again.

Landing both would spell the end for Colwill., which would be shame, given that neither of those names belong to WC players.

[DDA 9,690]

Apparently Liverpool are now I'm for that Nunes lad. 

 

[bluesman2610 1,341]

1 minute ago, DDA said:

Apparently Liverpool are now I'm for that Nunes lad. 

 

We are really going to drop the ball on this one - if Klopp thinks he’d fit if trust him to be honest

[Pizy 18,368]

Nothing we can really do this summer in midfield. Too many bodies there already.

[Superblue 6,370]

1 hour ago, MoroccanBlue said:

It makes more sense to prioritise Kounde over Kimpembe. 

Kounde will take that RCB spot and Koulibaly the LCB. 

Kounde can also play RB so could potentially take over the role that Azpi fulfils on that right hand side of defence covering for James. 

I think in terms of the makeup of the defence he makes more sense currently than Kimpembe and I'd also be less worried about him playing centrally in a back 4 if it's alongside someone like Koulibaly.

However it's still huge money what is being asked for both players. Part of me is hoping someone steps up in pre season like Trev did last year to make it less of a need to strengthen for Tuchel. 

[Mário César 973]

20 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Nothing we can really do this summer in midfield. Too many bodies there already.

we need to sell barkley and cheek and even with that we already have too many players for midfield 

mount; kova; jorginho; kante; gallegher; 

5 players for two positions 

we needed to sell at least one more player 

Edited July 17, 2022 by Mário César

[Superblue 6,370]

If we get a midfielder this summer it needs to be a genuine holding midfielder, not just someone who could play that role in a pinch like Kante and Kova 'could' do.

Having someone like that would give Tuchel greater flexibility to use both 4 and 5 back formations depending on opposition and players he has available but also opens some players up to being potentially more helpful. Mount, Gallagher and RLC are all better suited to playing in an 8 role than in the pivot.

[Jype 6,398]

15 minutes ago, Mário César said:

we need to sell barkley and cheek and even with that we already have too many players to midfield 

mount; kova; jorginho; kante; gallegher; 

5 players to two positions 

we needed to sell at least one more player 

Mount has played like two games in the midfield two of Tuchel's 3-4-3. What makes you think he'll start playing there more?

[Mário César 973]

Just now, Jype said:

Mount has played like two games in the midfield two of Tuchel's 3-4-3. What makes you think he'll start playing there more?

even with kova, jorginho, kante and gallegher..

4 players for two positions 

its the same a lot of players

how we buy someone? to spend a lot of time on the bench?

gallegher need to play to improve as a player

[Jype 6,398]

  

1 minute ago, Mário César said:

even with kova, jorginho, kante and gallegher..

4 players for two positions 

its the same a lot of players

how we buy someone? to spend a lot of time on the bench?

gallegher need to play to improve as a player

Last season we had Kante, Kovacic, Jorghinho, RLC and Saul for two places and no way it was too many. If RLC is moved on, Gallagher will just take his (and Saul's) place and it will be okay. If RLC stays, he can be the next backup.

Edited July 17, 2022 by Jype

[Pizy 18,368]

I’d rather keep Billy in the squad rather than RLC and Barkley. Ruben may actually be fairly sought after by several clubs because of the flashes of talent he has shown. Perhaps Lamps could take him? Don’t know how we get shot of Barkley, though. His wages have to be pretty high and he already had a poor loan spell at Villa.

RLC will show a flash of brilliance in one match and then disappear for several more afterwards. Don’t think he’s ever going to have the consistency to make it here. At least Billy has lots of room for growth. 

[manpe 10,861]

15 minutes ago, Jype said:

  

Last season we had Kante, Kovacic, Jorghinho, RLC and Saul for two places and no way it was too many. If RLC is moved on, Gallagher will just take his (and Saul's) place and it will be okay. If RLC stays, he can be the next backup.

Don't forget Gilmour. In terms of numbers we are STACKED in midfield. In terms of balance we are way off, we only have B2B and AM types there except for Jorginho. We definitely need to first off-load some to buy some. Gilmour is likely to go on loan again, but it remains to be seen whether we can shift Barkley (last chance to get some money off him) and RLC. If not, I'm afraid there is little chance we're gonna sign anybody. This is also the last summer we can get anything for Jorginho and Kante unless they extend, these are options we should be looking at if we don't wanna lose them for free, but at the moment there is little to suggest that either is leaving or extending. We might face the same problem with our MF as we are with DF right now.

I think this is the window where we get our defence sorted. Next summer is when we'll go rebuilding our midfield once Jorginho and possibly Kante leave for free.