Strike 7,489 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 7 hours ago, Vesper said: he is 1.72m! that's only an inch and a half taller than KANTE we will get ROASTED ALIVE with him playing CB and even height aside, that does NOT address the insane price when you toss in the £20m more it would cost us to buy back Colwill we are dropping 87m euros (£72.5m) on this deal! NOT HAPPY AT ALL it is madness Cucurella for 30m + Colwill with a buyback. That's a good deal. I would overlook the lack of height if the player has the technical ability, ball progression of Cucurella. With another CB (Fofana), we won't need Cucurella starting every week at LCB either since Fofana, Silva, Koulibaly can be fielded. This is actually a massive Alonso/Emerson upgrade and one that we were crying out for since the Chilwell injury derailed our season. Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,072 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, Strike said: Chilwell injury derailed our season Don't agree with this. 7 minutes ago, Strike said: This [signing Cucurella] is actually a massive Alonso/Emerson upgrade I agree it's an upgrade on Emerson and on Alonso's defending but whether his overall attacking impact would be better than Alonso's is possible but not certain I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said: Don't agree with this. I agree it's an upgrade on Emerson and on Alonso's defending but whether his overall attacking impact would be better than Alonso's is possible but not certain I think. Cucurella is much more rounded than Alonso from an attacking perspective; better at carrying the ball, against the press, passer, and linking up. That adds a lot more to the overall team. I do agree with your point on Chilly. Edited August 4, 2022 by Clockwork Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,072 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Clockwork said: Cucurella is much more rounded than Alonso from an attacking perspective; better at carrying the ball, against the press, passer, and linking up. That adds a lot more to the overall team. Yes, I agree with all of this. It's Marcus's goal contributions, and the goal threat at the far post which opponents have to account for, that I would put on the other side of the ledger. Edited August 4, 2022 by OhForAGreavsie Clockwork 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,489 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said: Yes, I agree with all of this. It's Marcus's goal contributions, and the goal threat at the far post which opponents have to account for, that I would put on the other side of the ledger. The goal threat from Alonso came at a big cost to the team balance and defensive solidity imo. Credit to him, he put in good shifts in the two cup finals but he lacked pace which makes a big difference in this wingback system. I feel Cucurella even without similar assist/goal numbers - will help the team progress the ball up-field and maintain possession there. Should improve our attack as well with his mobility, passing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldportblue 547 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 I’m not sure why we’re trying for de jong.. He’s a very nice player but would be super expensive + he is really bad defensively and is a very similar profile to kovacic, who isn’t going anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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manpe 10,861 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Aubameyang has flop written all over him if he joined us. He's 33, toxic and we'd be doing Farca a favour. Plus he just joined them in January, why would he leave so soon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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OhForAGreavsie 6,072 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 3 hours ago, Strike said: The goal threat from Alonso came at a big cost to the team balance and defensive solidity imo. Credit to him, he put in good shifts in the two cup finals but he lacked pace which makes a big difference in this wingback system. I feel Cucurella even without similar assist/goal numbers - will help the team progress the ball up-field and maintain possession there. Should improve our attack as well with his mobility, passing. You,and @Clockwork, make a good case. I hope it works out this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,072 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, Blues Forever said: Levi almost certainly has options so maybe any deal is waiting for Brighton to convince him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,897 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Kind of contradictory, no? Cucurella is “done” but Colwill isn’t. But the move can only happen if they sign Colwill. Which they haven’t. So it can’t be done. Is it done in a sense that the price and structure is generally agreed to or done as in everything is signed? Kind of a difference. OhForAGreavsie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 10 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said: Levi almost certainly has options so maybe any deal is waiting for Brighton to convince him? Brighton is the best team for his development. Similar kind of set up to us with the back 3. They also play a possession based game and play out from the back. Ideal team for him to get some PL experience at before we buy him back if he impresses down there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,897 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 12 minutes ago, Stats said: Brighton is the best team for his development. Similar kind of set up to us with the back 3. They also play a possession based game and play out from the back. Ideal team for him to get some PL experience at before we buy him back if he impresses down there. The concern I guess is that he’s one of those youth players who feels he’s too good for Brighton and will only go to a big club. Of which there are probably plenty in his ear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Special Juan 28,141 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Carney confirmed on the official website Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 20 minutes ago, Blues Forever said: If we do actually hold firm interest in a couple of players from Barca, we're better off dragging that one out. Unlike teams like Brighton and Leicester who will want to bring replacements in so want deals done earlier, Barca want to move players on and off the wage bill to register their new signings. If they find there's a struggle to do this, they may become more desperate to move players out and be prepared to accept terms much more favourable to the buyer. OneMoSalah, Strike, Magic Lamps and 2 others 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,956 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Vesper, Strike and oldportblue 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,393 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 (edited) Chelsea wanted Raphinha , Lewandowski and Kounde - they went to Barcelona . Barcelona get Christensen now want Azpilicueta and Alonso Chelsea wanted Dest and now want De Jong . They connect us with Depay and Aubameyang I told you this summer is all Chelsea and Barcelona stories . Edited August 4, 2022 by milka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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