Chelsea Transfers

[Jase 43,479]

5 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

We are getting property shafted with that deal. Obviously West Ham value Rice highly, but if we are comparing price to quality, we are essentially offering West Ham 80-85 million worth of players for someone who is 40 million tops. 

True and it's unlikely to happen but when you factor in the wages that we would be shedding by swapping those 3 players away (Barkley is earning close to 100k p/w, IIRC?), then it's maybe worth it from a financial POV. 

[Superblue 6,372]

10 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

We are getting property shafted with that deal. Obviously West Ham value Rice highly, but if we are comparing price to quality, we are essentially offering West Ham 80-85 million worth of players for someone who is 40 million tops. 

Whilst I somewhat agree, these are three players who are obviously dispensable and so far we haven't received offers acceptable to us.

Getting a player that we want in exchange for three players that we're trying to rid of and probably save a few million a year in wages isn't the worst business.

Having said that Zouma and Barkley will have extremely low amortisation values now and Tammy's would be nil so purely from an accounting perspective we'd be better off selling all three if we could and putting a bid in for Rice. Same with selling Zouma for the right price rather than include in a player exchange.

[Jase 43,479]

11 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

Having said that Zouma and Barkley will have extremely low amortisation values now and Tammy's would be nil so purely from an accounting perspective we'd be better off selling all three if we could and putting a bid in for Rice. Same with selling Zouma for the right price rather than include in a player exchange.

If we aren't including Zouma into a deal, then selling him shouldn't be a problem, I think. He's on low wages and isn't too expensive. But with the other two...

Abraham's wages isn't high but is valued at £40 million while am not sure about Barkley's current value (maybe £20m-£30m?) but he's earning close to £100k wages p/w. We're gonna need some parties to bite the bullet here if we want to attract buyers for the both of them. 

[Styl1994 188]

1 hour ago, Pizy said:

Rice. 

Rice won’t happen West Ham won’t drop there crazy value for him until next summer. 

[Superblue 6,372]

32 minutes ago, Jas said:

If we aren't including Zouma into a deal, then selling him shouldn't be a problem, I think. He's on low wages and isn't too expensive. But with the other two...

Abraham's wages isn't high but is valued at £40 million while am not sure about Barkley's current value (maybe £20m-£30m?) but he's earning close to £100k wages p/w. We're gonna need some parties to bite the bullet here if we want to attract buyers for the both of them. 

Yeah I've no doubts we've probably been taken aback a little by how much of a struggle it currently is to move players on.

Players like Zouma, Tammy and Barkley you'd assume would be amongst the more desirable and easier to sell players, especially when you see some of the other players we still have.

I do think in the end though we'll manage to move most, if not all, that we want to. Whilst teams that want to keep hold of players will likely become even more reluctant to sell later into the window, buying clubs will usually become more desperate which actually works in our favour for players we're willing to sell for the right money. 

[King Kante 1,643]

1 hour ago, Jas said:

If we aren't including Zouma into a deal, then selling him shouldn't be a problem, I think. He's on low wages and isn't too expensive. But with the other two...

Abraham's wages isn't high but is valued at £40 million while am not sure about Barkley's current value (maybe £20m-£30m?) but he's earning close to £100k wages p/w. We're gonna need some parties to bite the bullet here if we want to attract buyers for the both of them. 

Tammy at £35m-£40m is a fair price when you consider English tax, his goal record and age. Watkins last season went for £35m and hadn't kicked a ball in the Premier League, White has gone for £50m etc. Tbh, I reckon he may be slightly different to the others as he may be seen as a player that potentially stays if we cannot get a CF. I expect him to leave late. 

Barkley for me isn't rasing £20m+. He is a poor player on high wages. English tax may save him but anything over £15m I would be amazed at. Loan is much more likely imo.

As for Zouma, plenty of teams will take him, he is probably dependent on Kounde. However, I rate him as £30m+ as he'll be a top player for pretty much any PL team outside of the top 6.

What happens with: 

Baba, Zappa, Drinky, Baka, RLC, Emerson, Batsh*t et el, is anyones guess. Loans is my guess but with us probably having to eat some of their wages. 

Edited July 29, 2021 by King Kante

[NikkiCFC 8,369]

Weird that no one wants to pay fucking 15m for a player who just played EURO semi final and final. 

[King Kante 1,643]

13 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Weird that no one wants to pay fucking 15m for a player who just played EURO semi final and final. 

They know we have 8 WB's - Zappa, Baba, Sterling, Livra, Alonso, Emerson, James and Alonso - so are desperate to shift a number. Why pay if you can wait you can get him on loan? 

[Hashishi 148]

49 minutes ago, King Kante said:

They know we have 8 WB's - Zappa, Baba, Sterling, Livra, Alonso, Emerson, James and Alonso - so are desperate to shift a number. Why pay if you can wait you can get him on loan? 

You listed Alonso twice, I think one of them is meant to be Chilwell. 

[Special Juan 28,187]

Don't worry about Kounde, it's getting sorted.

[Jase 43,479]

1 hour ago, NikkiCFC said:

Weird that no one wants to pay fucking 15m for a player who just played EURO semi final and final. 

So much for his value going up. 🤪

[Jase 43,479]

2 hours ago, King Kante said:

Tammy at £35m-£40m is a fair price when you consider English tax, his goal record and age. Watkins last season went for £35m and hadn't kicked a ball in the Premier League, White has gone for £50m etc. Tbh, I reckon he may be slightly different to the others as he may be seen as a player that potentially stays if we cannot get a CF. I expect him to leave late. 

Who do you think who will shell out £40 million to buy Abraham? Be realistic. 

[Hashishi 148]

30 minutes ago, Jas said:

So much for his value going up. 🤪

Xxx it is an Italian team or bust. 

[LAM09 7,069]

51 minutes ago, Jas said:

Who do you think who will shell out £40 million to buy Abraham? Be realistic. 

I know the question wasn't directly aimed at me, but I can only see Villa laying that amount down, especially if Grealish goes or potentially Tottenham, but I don't see us ever doing business with them unless we gain someone in return.

[Jase 43,479]

7 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

I know the question wasn't directly aimed at me, but I can only see Villa laying that amount down, especially if Grealish goes or potentially Tottenham, but I don't see us ever doing business with them unless we gain someone in return.

Villa is a decent call but last we heard that is they aren't willing to smash their transfer record for another ST for the third consecutive year. 

[LAM09 7,069]

5 minutes ago, Jas said:

Villa is a decent call but last we heard that is they aren't willing to smash their transfer record for another ST for the third consecutive year. 

I guess a lot will hinge on the outcome with Grealish.

[NikkiCFC 8,369]

Palace need a striker. 

[Pizy 18,985]

Can definitely see Ollie Watkins and Tammy combining quite nicely. Probably as good as Villa can get in terms of strikers.

[Fernando 6,591]

9 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Palace need a striker. 

I actually think if city get grealish then villa will easily buy Tammy for 40.

[King Kante 1,643]

2 hours ago, Jas said:

Who do you think who will shell out £40 million to buy Abraham? Be realistic. 

First of all I said £35m-£40m. Second, why can Brentford get £35m for a CF who hasn't kicked a ball in the PL, yet we can't for a 23 year old English CF who has a decent scoring record in the PL? 

As for teams, all the teams need a CF: 

Brighton 

Palace 

Newcastle 

Le Arse (If they sell Laca)

West Ham

You can argue some of those won't go near £40m (Newcastle, although they blew £30m on Joe Linton of all people.) So, it is not unreasonable to think this. Tammy may not be Chelsea level but he is capable of getting 12-15 goals a season at his current level (and he still has room to improve) and that sort of return would keep of those teams in the PL. 

Edited July 29, 2021 by King Kante