Special Juan 28,765 Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 Romano saying Mendy could be off at the end of the season- good news, another bog average player off the list. Now to get rid of the other useless fucker in Kepa and go and buy a proper keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,105 Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Clockwork said: Kone is a different player though, he is more of a B2B player than a true DMF like Ugarte, Rice, and Lavia. the thing that REALLY worries me about Lavia he is their key defensive non back 4 player and they are the worst team in the league by far (IMHO and also in the table) and are being relegated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,345 Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 23 minutes ago, Vesper said: the thing that REALLY worries me about Lavia he is their key defensive non back 4 player and they are the worst team in the league by far (IMHO and also in the table) and are being relegated True but to put that down to one player is a tad harsh, we have Enzo who's the premier league's record transfer fee and we are down the bottom half the table, with relagation only just now mathematical impossible. Fernando, Reddish-Blue and Strike 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,674 Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Vesper said: the thing that REALLY worries me about Lavia he is their key defensive non back 4 player and they are the worst team in the league by far (IMHO and also in the table) and are being relegated Remember when Gini got relegated with Newcastle and he got his move to Liverpool, turned out to be a pretty good midfielder. Same with Robertson getting relegated with Hull, turned out to be pretty damn good LB/LWB for Liverpool as well.... Feel like Lavia is young enough where its more about the experience than the results. If he was paired with other experienced midfielders and had a decent defensive line behind him, I would be worried as well. Let's not forget that Southampton also had 21 year old Bazunu as their starting keeper, and Bella-Kotchap as their key CB (also 21 years old)....not to mention various other young players coming in like Mara, Alcaraz, Diallo, Edozie, Sulemana. Strike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 9,104 Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 13 hours ago, Superblue said: I think letting Jorginho go in January was the right move, unless you feel he should have been given a new contract. If we had been anywhere near challenging for the league with Arsenal then maybe it would have been more of a consideration but in our position as good as writing the league season off and having just signed Enzo, it was a good amount of money to bank on a 31 year old who would have been leaving on a free 6 months later. Kova falls into a similarly difficult category with what to do with him next season. He'll be 30 during next season, has never had the best injury record and I don't think has played particularly well this season. With a year left on his contract, do you renew and look at keeping him here on a 3-4 year contract? Especially if Kante signs back up as we'll have two similarly aged, similarly injury prone players in the same position being relied upon. As a side note, there's also been a lot of talk that Kova doesn't want to sign a new contract and would like a new challenge anyway. With this in mind, it makes sense to sell now than let him leave on a free in a year's time. I understand the position the board are taking with this, especially when they walked through the door to see two players worth millions leaving on free transfers last summer. Keeping Jorginho to the summer and letting him go on a free would of been the best move - its been hinted at that some of the discussions in the dressing room that have gone on about how the clubs been run/the seasons gone etc were heavily focused on the sale of him to Arsenal. I mean I know we have to/need to sell players but do people think we were that desperate for 12m or whatever we got for Jorginho in January? Even if he was backing up Enzo, or playing with him. We are still lightweight in terms of quality in MF, other than Kante, Kova and Enzo. I mean if any of them were to have gotten a big big injury would Gallagher, Zakaria or Loftus-Cheek have really been suitably good enough to come in? In comparison to Jorginho? No. I mean how often have we seen Gallagher play and be abysmally off the pace and overawed since January? Kova if he wants a new challenge fair, but if its because we don’t want to give him a 3 + 1 year deal maybe - then it is stupid. Are we not reportedly going to give Kante a 2+1? Or a 3? Why not offer Kova a 3+1? Having him, Kante, Enzo and if we sign a 23-27 year old MF player - gives us a really good mix of experience and quality again. People are making out that there are a huge amount of top midfield players out there though when in reality, there really isn’t so I think for the club to be particularly interested in just letting Kova go is very strange and typically the same sort of approach we’ve become accustomed to with this new ownership. I would rather we focused on shifting Gallagher, Ruben and perhaps even Mount depending on what he, the club and Poch discuss first and foremost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,399 Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 At the point where if Kovacic leaves, great. If he stays, great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Reddish-Blue 2,674 Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 10 hours ago, OneMoSalah said: Keeping Jorginho to the summer and letting him go on a free would of been the best move - its been hinted at that some of the discussions in the dressing room that have gone on about how the clubs been run/the seasons gone etc were heavily focused on the sale of him to Arsenal. I mean I know we have to/need to sell players but do people think we were that desperate for 12m or whatever we got for Jorginho in January? Even if he was backing up Enzo, or playing with him. We are still lightweight in terms of quality in MF, other than Kante, Kova and Enzo. I mean if any of them were to have gotten a big big injury would Gallagher, Zakaria or Loftus-Cheek have really been suitably good enough to come in? In comparison to Jorginho? No. I mean how often have we seen Gallagher play and be abysmally off the pace and overawed since January? Kova if he wants a new challenge fair, but if its because we don’t want to give him a 3 + 1 year deal maybe - then it is stupid. Are we not reportedly going to give Kante a 2+1? Or a 3? Why not offer Kova a 3+1? Having him, Kante, Enzo and if we sign a 23-27 year old MF player - gives us a really good mix of experience and quality again. People are making out that there are a huge amount of top midfield players out there though when in reality, there really isn’t so I think for the club to be particularly interested in just letting Kova go is very strange and typically the same sort of approach we’ve become accustomed to with this new ownership. I would rather we focused on shifting Gallagher, Ruben and perhaps even Mount depending on what he, the club and Poch discuss first and foremost. How do you know that Jorginho wanted to stay though beyond January? There were reports from Italian media where they said Jorginho asked his agent to look for other options in the January transfer window as he wasn't pleased at the Chelsea situation and was keen on a new challenge. If those reports are true, it makes sense that the club took a transfer fee rather than following the same trend as Rudiger/Christensen and letting quality players go on a free transfer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,105 Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 @bigbluewillie You want Thiago to leave?? You made a sad face over that tweet that said he is likely staying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 9,104 Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 (edited) 15 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said: How do you know that Jorginho wanted to stay though beyond January? There were reports from Italian media where they said Jorginho asked his agent to look for other options in the January transfer window as he wasn't pleased at the Chelsea situation and was keen on a new challenge. If those reports are true, it makes sense that the club took a transfer fee rather than following the same trend as Rudiger/Christensen and letting quality players go on a free transfer. I’m pretty sure there was multiple quotes from his agent about wanting to stay and wanting a new contract here. But we pushed him out the door for all of £12m because he had 6 months left and we had Enzo Fernandez coming in despite the midfield already being a weak position in the squad. There were rumours he was considering letting his deal run out and returning to Italy at the end of the season also. Mainly from Italian media. Which would of been a better outcome. Edited May 13, 2023 by OneMoSalah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 (edited) Jorginho wouldn't be a matter if only things had worked out as planned. Not like people here rated him very much to put it lightly until he was gone and we were, in theory, improving quality, so better to let him go when there was someone interested, instead of making him sit in the parking lot as we can't fit players in the dressing room. Too bad it turns out not only we miss his imperfect input, but he was one of very, very few people exhibiting a bit of leadership and charisma here. There were multiple reports his departure didn't go down very well with the rest of players. Can't shake the feeling that club got carried away the same way with Giroud. Edited May 13, 2023 by Vegetable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pizy 19,280 Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 Think it’s safe to assume that Osimhen is off the table because of his price and so is Kane because of Levy. Lautaro is at a CL club who still have a chance to win it (not gonna happen, tho) and the Inter hierarchy are already saying that they’re planning with him for the long term. Also saw a quote from them that he could be future captain. So he ain’t going anywhere unless a truly monster offer goes in. That doesn’t leave any truly ready made, top class strikers left. Just decent ones like Ivan Toney or up and coming talents. And those are the sorts of risks we really can’t afford after years and years of going that route. I have this sinking feeling that we’re going to look around everywhere and be unable to find the right striker only to end up having to use Lukaku again. 🤦♂️ Laylabelle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 58 minutes ago, Pizy said: Think it’s safe to assume that Osimhen is off the table because of his price and so is Kane because of Levy. Lautaro is at a CL club who still have a chance to win it (not gonna happen, tho) and the Inter hierarchy are already saying that they’re planning with him for the long term. Also saw a quote from them that he could be future captain. So he ain’t going anywhere unless a truly monster offer goes in. That doesn’t leave any truly ready made, top class strikers left. Just decent ones like Ivan Toney or up and coming talents. And those are the sorts of risks we really can’t afford after years and years of going that route. I have this sinking feeling that we’re going to look around everywhere and be unable to find the right striker only to end up having to use Lukaku again. 🤦♂️ Up and coming striker would be fine. Established world class ones would be too much money and unwilling to join after our season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,105 Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 15 hours ago, Gundalf said: Legend on and off the pitch. will go down as a top 15 ever CB no order Franz Beckenbauer Paolo Maldini Franco Baresi Alessandro Nesta Sergio Ramos Carles Puyol John Terry Thiago Silva Bobby Moore Gaetano Scirea Daniel Passarella Fabio Cannavaro Rio Ferdinand Ronald Koeman Elías Figueroa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,105 Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 Chelsea: Dujon Sterling Medical imminent for Chelsea exit His contract is set to expire next month. https://www.footballfancast.com/Chelsea-transfer-latest-medical-imminent-for-dujon-sterling-exit-rangers/ Chelsea star Dujon Sterling is set to join Rangers after agreeing a four-year deal with the Scottish outfit. The 23-year-old is out of contract next month and is set to leave Stamford Bridge after first joining the club as a seven-year-old in 2007. Much like many of Chelsea's most promising youngsters, he has been forced out on loan for four of the last five seasons with his most recent spell with Stoke City. According to Football Insider, Sterling has already agreed to join Rangers and once he completes a medical with the Scottish outfit, he will put pen to paper on his new deal. The medical will be completed imminently and having already been given a tour of Rangers' training ground, only the most important details remain. In his career to date, Sterling has been able to provide 13 goals and 16 assists in 193 appearances across a number of different positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,105 Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 5 hours ago, Pizy said: Think it’s safe to assume that Osimhen is off the table because of his price and so is Kane because of Levy. Lautaro is at a CL club who still have a chance to win it (not gonna happen, tho) and the Inter hierarchy are already saying that they’re planning with him for the long term. Also saw a quote from them that he could be future captain. So he ain’t going anywhere unless a truly monster offer goes in. That doesn’t leave any truly ready made, top class strikers left. Just decent ones like Ivan Toney or up and coming talents. And those are the sorts of risks we really can’t afford after years and years of going that route. I have this sinking feeling that we’re going to look around everywhere and be unable to find the right striker only to end up having to use Lukaku again. 🤦♂️ pipe dreams, not happening: Kylian Mbappé Victor Osimhen Lautaro Martínez Julián Álvarez then every under 30yo and over £10m CF who is remotely available that I remotely rate and some of these would take crazy offers bold are who I would go for first Harry Kane (crazy hard pull) only if a fair price Dusan Vlahovic Randal Kolo Muani (likely too expensive though) Jonathan David Ivan Toney (as long as no suspension) Gonçalo Ramos Rasmus Højlund Amine Gouiri Ollie Watkins Marcus Thuram Aleksandar Mitrović Hugo Ekitiké Elye Wahi Evanilson Noah Okafor Benjamin Sesko Terem Moffi Loïs Openda Nicolas Jackson Marcos Leonardo Adam Hlozek youth Vitor Roque Brasil youth 18yo Alejo Véliz Argie youth 19yo Estevão Willian 16yo Palmeiras youth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,483 Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 we probably will stay with lukaku Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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