Chelsea Transfers

[Pizy 18,368]

8 minutes ago, Jas said:

 

Well at least he didn’t say “we will 100% keep Erling no matter what and he’s not available for any price.”

So….that’s encouraging? 😅

[Styl1994 188]

Tbh this comments mean nothing he could stay he could leave 

[Blues Forever 1,232]

What a bargain, definitely far more cheaper than Tchouameni and Rice.

[Strike 7,217]

11 minutes ago, Blues Forever said:

What a bargain, definitely far more cheaper than Tchouameni and Rice.

Is he better than them? Club not really looking for bargains this summer

[Blues Forever 1,232]

5 minutes ago, Strike said:

Is he better than them? Club not really looking for bargains this summer

Not better, but the gap between Kamara and Rice/Tchouameni isn't too big for me. Kamara is slighty worse defensively but could play both DM/CB and also better passer than Rice/Tchouameni.

Edited July 10, 2021 by Blues Forever

[DH1988 1,273]

Goes without saying but an attribute we’ve missed is the aggression and will to win, it extends all the way to when a teammate gets shoved or missing a chance, we miss it.

 

ahh Diego… Diego…

[Pizy 18,368]

If we’re looking at midfielders from the French league I’m personally more impressed with Renato Sanches than I am Camavinga. Especially after that showing at the Euro’s. 
 

Think he’s absolutely worth a punt if the asking price for Rice is too high (which it assuredly will be). 

[Jase 43,479]

7 hours ago, Pizy said:

Well at least he didn’t say “we will 100% keep Erling no matter what and he’s not available for any price.”

So….that’s encouraging? 😅

Even if he did say that, am sure you would have tried to spin it to something encouraging. lol

In any case, that same Bild article claimed that Dortmund will stick to their stance and that Haaland is happy to stay, but they did wonder what will Dortmund do if we throw in a €175 million bid, supposedly the kind of crazy money required to maybe change their mind. 

[Vesper 28,864]

Boubacar Kamara for only £12-13m is an absolutely blinding steal

look at my DMF (and CB as well before he was switched out) lists over the past couple years

he is always in the mix

class player, can play DMF, CMF, CB, and I wager, with his pace, he could fill in at wingback in a pinch

Edited July 10, 2021 by Vesper

[Pizy 18,368]

16 minutes ago, Jas said:

Even if he did say that, am sure you would have tried to spin it to something encouraging. lol

In any case, that same Bild article claimed that Dortmund will stick to their stance and that Haaland is happy to stay, but they did wonder what will Dortmund do if we throw in a €175 million bid, supposedly the kind of crazy money required to maybe change their mind. 

Nah, I’m already resigned to it not happening. Think we’ll get a cheap stopgap like Ings or something and hope for the best.

[Vesper 28,864]

1 minute ago, Pizy said:

Nah, I’m already resigned to it not happening. Think we’ll get a cheap stopgap like Ings or something and hope for the best.

Ings has immense disasterclass signing potential

[Vesper 28,864]

Dortmund are fools if we offer them €150m for Håland and they turn it down

do you realise what over a quarter of a billion euros (between Sancho, Håland plus the smaller sales they have already done) can do IN THIS market, this once in multiple decades market?

they can buy up players for pennies on the pound

radically transform the team and its depth and youth for a decade plus via the synergistic knock-on effects

they lose Håaland next year anyway, and for a sheload less dosh

and I so doubt the market will be as low priced as now

[avrobsws 29]

8 hours ago, Jas said:

 

If we table a bid of 135 Mil, Dortumund will say Yes as they are aware of the activation of the release clause next year. They won't like to make small fortune by selling Haaland next season. Moreover, there is no deadline set by Dortmund so Haaland is definitely a go deal.

[Pizy 18,368]

25 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Ings has immense disasterclass signing potential

He does, but if we can’t get a top of the line, marquee striker than I’d rather us get a cheap stopgap than spending 50m or something on a mid level guy who might be a bust and we’re stuck with them when Haaland is available next summer.

If we can get someone in the £25-30m range this summer who may not be spectacular but is effective and can score the easy chances we create that’ll have to do. Then that striker can become our backup striker next season.

Or perhaps the plan is to just stick with Tammy and Kai. Which…..wouldn’t be good.

[Jase 43,479]

51 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Dortmund are fools if we offer them €150m for Håland and they turn it down

Bild mentioned 175 million euros (and no, that's not a currency typo).

33 minutes ago, avrobsws said:

If we table a bid of 135 Mil, Dortumund will say Yes as they are aware of the activation of the release clause next year. They won't like to make small fortune by selling Haaland next season. Moreover, there is no deadline set by Dortmund so Haaland is definitely a go deal.

The fee difference may be bigger but you're talking about a club who have a history of holding onto a player for one more season and then either selling them at a cheaper price (e.g. Sancho) or letting them go for free (e.g. Lewandowski). Dortmund might be a selling side but they also still have interest in being competitive. If Dortmund are really concerned about getting less money next year, they would not have said all year that Haaland is not for sale this summer and they are also not under any financial pressure to sell. So, I don't think it's a foregone conclusion to just say they will accept our offer immediately. More importantly, we gotta actually table the bid in if we want to make it happen because right now, nothing seems to be actually happening and it's all just empty talk after empty talk after empty talk. And oh, there are also tons of recycled BS. 

[Artandur 939]

6 minutes ago, Jas said:

Bild mentioned 175 million euros (and no, that's not a currency typo).

The fee difference may be bigger but you're talking about a club who have a history of holding onto a player for one more season and then either selling them at a cheaper price (e.g. Sancho) or letting them go for free (e.g. Lewandowski). Dortmund might be a selling side but they also still have interest in being competitive. They are also not under any financial pressure to sell. So, I don't think it's a foregone conclusion to just say they will accept our offer immediately. More importantly, we gotta actually table the bid in because right now, nothing seems to be actually happening and it's all just empty talk after empty talk after empty talk. And oh, there are also tons of recycled BS. 

I agree with your general sentiment, but with Sancho and Lewandowski they came out straight away saying that they are not going to leave, which they are explicitly not doing with Haaland. Also they are definitely under pressure to sell, because it is very hard to burn 100m of fee in a year, when you have shareholders to answer to.

[Jase 43,479]

4 minutes ago, Artandur said:

but with Sancho and Lewandowski they came out straight away saying that they are not going to leave, which they are explicitly not doing with Haaland.

Zorc just came out and said it today. I did not keep track of their previous comments and am sure they have also said it some time this year. And the media, including the German, have also been reporting Dortmund have no intention to sell this summer. So am mostly just going by that.

4 minutes ago, Artandur said:

Also they are definitely under pressure to sell, because it is very hard to burn 100m of fee in a year, when you have shareholders to answer to.

Under pressure to sell as in? If we actually put in the 175 million euros bid? Or just in general? 

[Vesper 28,864]

12 minutes ago, Jas said:

Bild mentioned 175 million euros (and no, that's not a currency typo).

The fee difference may be bigger but you're talking about a club who have a history of holding onto a player for one more season and then either selling them at a cheaper price (e.g. Sancho) or letting them go for free (e.g. Lewandowski). Dortmund might be a selling side but they also still have interest in being competitive. If Dortmund are really concerned about getting less money next year, they would not have said all year that Haaland is not for sale this summer and they are also not under any financial pressure to sell. So, I don't think it's a foregone conclusion to just say they will accept our offer immediately. More importantly, we gotta actually table the bid in if we want to make it happen because right now, nothing seems to be actually happening and it's all just empty talk after empty talk after empty talk. And oh, there are also tons of recycled BS. 

It's been €150m (not pounds) for ages, now all of sudden it is going up? Not buying it. I have been all over this, and I am by far the FOREX conversation stickler on here since I joined, so it is not me making a conversion. His release clause has been quoted as between 65 and 75m euros. If is the lower, then €175m is only 20m away from being TRIPLE that. 150m euros is double the higher quote of €75m, which if fair.

IF the price they demand IS truly €175m, (and you know add-ons are not included in that) and IF that cunt Raiola insists on a 3 years or so and out escape hatch, then FUCK THE DEAL.

FUCK HÅLAND, as IF those are the conditions and price, he is NOT worth it. I draw lines in sand.