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I'd expect, and fully OK, with a £100m + Tammy offer or £120m + Tammy, with buy-back on Tammy for £XXm, we've been caught with our pants down too often.

 

To clarify, not that I see Tammy as a world beater, anyone can develop, etc. etc.

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These player + cash or player swaps never happen. People need to stop even posting these things.

Seems like every transfer link for us currently is money + our deadwood that are way worse than the player they’d supposedly replace. Why would Dortmund want Tammy when they could go out and find the next gem like they always do?

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Then good luck with Luka Jovic or Gerard Moreno 🥰

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Ambition: Spending big money on a good player in a problem position. 

Vanity: Spending big money on a good player in a position you don't need.

Idiocy: Spending big money on a not-so-good player in a position you need/don't need.

 

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I won't lie and say it isn't gutting to lose out on Hakimi, people saying a wingback isn't a priority are lying to themselves, James and Chilwell won't cut it in a 38 game season in those areas, the former is more suited to RCB and the latter is still very raw in his attacking play despite decent numbers, although it does work in big games we need a lot more against bus parkers. 

Realistically speaking there's two ways we can respond to this.

1. Revert back to 4atb.

2. Go all in on training CHO in that position and promote Livramento as the back up.

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15 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Realistically speaking there's two ways we can respond to this.

1. Revert back to 4atb.

Think going back to a back 4 permanently is gonna cause a lot more tactical issues.

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6 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Question is whether CHO wants to sacrifice his career being another Victor Moses. 

Who cares what he wants, either he plays where we want to or he fucks off to Dortmund.

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10 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Question is whether CHO wants to sacrifice his career being another Victor Moses. 

Fuck sacrifice, it should be an honour to even be in the team if you ask me, he best eat them grass as per TT's instructions

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13 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Question is whether CHO wants to sacrifice his career being another Victor Moses. 

Pretty much every great attacking full/wing back start as a winger.

That said i think Callum is a lot better further forward than given credit for but there's simply too many players infront of him at the minute especially if we sign a striker.

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I just want to see some more concrete links to players so we can get an idea of where Tuchel’s thinking is. What’s the fall back option if Haaland is not possible? Lukaku ruled himself out of leaving so that’s a no-go. What’s the sort of midfielder he wants with Billy going on loan which leaves us short? 

The lack of real info from the usually reliable English sources is weird. We got the Haaland stuff weeks ago and it’s been since from the English press. Pretty much all of the Hakimi stuff is from the Italians.

I mentioned yesterday that I’d only start getting annoyed if we saw other clubs kicking into gear. Well, it seems like Sancho is right on the verge of being a United player and Varane is a very likely signing as well. Arse are close to bringing in a couple of smart signings as well apparently.

Seems like we’re being very low key and deliberate in the market.

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56 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Pretty much every great attacking full/wing back start as a winger.

That said i think Callum is a lot better further forward than given credit for but there's simply too many players infront of him at the minute especially if we sign a striker.

Aye fully agree.

I think TT said so himself that Callum is better further forward on the left IIRC a while ago too. A loan move wouldn’t be the worst thing if we could work one for him but wages will always be an issue and maybe he won’t want to go. I suppose we better wait and see how the Ziyech situation turns out also if its true that AC Milan are extremely interested and he’s not completely settled/in favour with Tuchel.

Even on the wingback thing, no doubt Callum will cut it against some of the smaller teams or if we need a goal as he will basically be an extra attacker/come in against tired teams in that position in games where we will likely dominate the ball but in the event of a bad injury, loss of form or lots of games in a short period, we do need to have another established right sided wingback in the squad. I mean Azpi could be a last resort there but he looks much more comfortable as RCB now and would be daft to move him I think. The young boy from the academy, spellings eluded me, maybe a loan would be more beneficial for him.

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3 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

We see this every summer don't we? Our transfers are well within the dark of the media. 

I don't think that was the case with Havertz and Chilwell, for example, last year.

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5 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

I think TT said so himself that Callum is better further forward on the left IIRC a while ago too.

Did he? When did he say that?

5 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

The young boy from the academy, spellings eluded me, maybe a loan would be more beneficial for him.

It's LIVRAMENTO! 

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11 minutes ago, Pizy said:

I just want to see some more concrete links to players so we can get an idea of where Tuchel’s thinking is. What’s the fall back option if Haaland is not possible? Lukaku ruled himself out of leaving so that’s a no-go. What’s the sort of midfielder he wants with Billy going on loan which leaves us short? 

The lack of real info from the usually reliable English sources is weird. We got the Haaland stuff weeks ago and it’s been since from the English press. Pretty much all of the Hakimi stuff is from the Italians.

I mentioned yesterday that I’d only start getting annoyed if we saw other clubs kicking into gear. Well, it seems like Sancho is right on the verge of being a United player and Varane is a very likely signing as well. Arse are close to bringing in a couple of smart signings as well apparently.

Seems like we’re being very low key and deliberate in the market.

Didn't you say you weren't gonna panic yet? Or is it panic mode already? 😛

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2 minutes ago, Jas said:

Did he? When did he say that?

It's LIVRAMENTO! 

Maybe not the left but inside position meaning front 3 as opposed to wingback. After City game in the league. 


https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/2021/05/12/tuchel-on-hudson-odoi-s-best-position-and-what-he-needs-to-learn

Aye thats the one Livramento. Hint of Italian or something about it!

Think people are getting a bit too excited about him as in he could come in and be our back up RWB. He is a good talent, dont get me wrong, but I don’t think he will be in the first team squad and if he was, he isn’t going to be playing as often as if he got a championship loan for instance.

I think physically he can handle those leagues and looks ready to go and play “mens football” as they put it as opposed to u23s by the looks of what I have seen and his physical stature but you know, Reece, Tammy, Fikayo, Mason, Andreas all did the loan moves and it worked out better for their development as opposed to coming in straight from the academy. 

Even if not a championship loan, I think Celtic will 100% be after a RB up in Scotland and that would be an interesting proposition for him also with the demands and the culture they have ingrained there. Plus Ange Postecoglou has an interesting attacking philosophy where his teams seem to play that man for man defending, very similar to how Leeds play with Bielsa, but whether or not they are interested is another story. 

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2 hours ago, Tomo said:

Revert back to 4atb.

A million apologies because I know Tomo and everyone is going to hate this comment. Believe me I get why but I just can't help myself. The sentence above is such horrible English that it hurts my eyes. Far from being necessary the word back detracts from the meaning. Revert here means 'go back' or 'return' so just saying or writing, "revert to a back four", is the better way to transmit the idea.

I'm off to do two press ups as penance for posting this. 🙁

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