Chelsea Transfers

[Tomo 21,733]

33 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Just saw on Twitter that Martinez wants out at Arse because Arteta wants Leno as his #1. We should be all over that.

Disagree, too risky to sign him based on a months form.

[killer1257 3,282]

Disagree, too risky to sign him based on a months form.

He has made many world class saves in PL against Pool and Spurs for instance.

He is 195 cm tall, has a big frame due tue his muscles and insane jumping abilities. He also is very dominant in the air and he improved his technical abilities.

10 million is nothing. Onana has weaknesses, but costs 30 million, Mendy is not perfect either.

 

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[OhForAGreavsie 5,892]

44 minutes ago, Mana said:

And in June 2022 (2 years time) is PARTY time for all of us because most of the dross including Drinkwater, Emerson, Zappacosta, Kenedy, Christensen, Bakayoko and Baba Rahman are all outta here

Want to bet? I know you've been watching our squad management approach, we all have, but I don't think you are fully accepting just how committed the club is to its methods.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

4 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

He has made many world class saves in PL against Pool and Spurs for instance.

He is 195 cm tall, has a big frame due tue his muscles and insane jumping abilities. He also is very dominant in the air and he improved his technical abilities.

10 million is nothing. Onana has weaknesses, but costs 30 million, Mendy is not perfect either.

 

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Why does Arse want to flock him out then? Leno is good GK, but I never rated him outstanding. So Martinez should definately get the chance at least if he is this good.

Yeah Onana has flaws, he can be frustrating and didnt have great season in eredivisie like last year. But there is upside with him. Same with Maignan.

Honestly this GK situation doesnt have a clear cut winner. Everyone we have been linked has weaknesses. Even Oblak for instance. 

I just hope we make good decision here. Kepa isnt the answer either IMO.

[killer1257 3,282]

Why does Arse want to flock him out then? Leno is good GK, but I never rated him outstanding. So Martinez should definately get the chance at least if he is this good.
Yeah Onana has flaws, he can be frustrating and didnt have great season in eredivisie like last year. But there is upside with him. Same with Maignan.
Honestly this GK situation doesnt have a clear cut winner. Everyone we have been linked has weaknesses. Even Oblak for instance. 
I just hope we make good decision here. Kepa isnt the answer either IMO.

Arsenal fans do not want him out. Look at Twitter. Some are furious that Arsenal are willing to sell him. Leno came in for 25 million Euros and is a bigger name than Martinez.
Martinez wants to leave because he wants to be no. 1 and he has shown his insane potential in PL. Not Eredivisie, not Ligue 1 He showed it in Pl. I do not see any real worrying weakness.

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[BlueLyon 9,359]

Just now, killer1257 said:

 

 

Arsenal fans do not want him out. Look at Twitter. Some are furious that Arsenal are willing to sell him. Leno came in for 25 million Euros and is a bigger name than Martinez.
Martinez wants to leave because he wants to be no. 1 and he has shown his insane potential in PL. Not Eredivisie, not Ligue 1 He showed it in Pl. I do not see any real worrying weakness.

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Most still prefer Bernd. And Martinez didnt perform long enough to be evaluated like that. Surely he is an option, but who knows if its what we need. That said for 10m risk wouldnt be big.

IMO if Lopes was taller, he would be my pick and we would have GK set for few years.

 

 

[Tomo 21,733]

19 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

He has made many world class saves in PL against Pool and Spurs for instance.

He is 195 cm tall, has a big frame due tue his muscles and insane jumping abilities. He also is very dominant in the air and he improved his technical abilities.

10 million is nothing. Onana has weaknesses, but costs 30 million, Mendy is not perfect either.

 

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But ultimately we don't know how much his performances are due to the momentum and/or surprise package. Coming to Chelsea as a number 1 is a different ball game to his run in the Arsenal side where he could only have won.

[Jase 43,479]

Cheap or not, I don't think we can afford to get it wrong with our next keeper. We wouldn't want to be in another situation where we are forced to chop and change the keeper again. If a better one costs more, just go for it. The keeper is one position we can't afford to be stingy with it.

[Puliiszola 519]

1 hour ago, Strike said:

https://theathletic.com/2029141/2020/08/28/emi-emiliano-martinez-arsenal-transfer/

Emiliano Martinez for sale (maybe even below 10m). I think this could be a decent stop-gap option. He looked comfortable as Arsenal #1 and has good handling

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[Jase 43,479]

1 hour ago, Patrick Bamford said:

 

His agent is Mino Raiola. So the club won't even think of doing a deal...

[Jase 43,479]

2017/18 summer spending:
Rudiger - £29 million
Bakayoko - £40 million
Morata - £58 million
Zappacosta - £23 million
Drinkwater - £35 million

Total - £185 million

2020/21 summer spending:
Ziyech - £36 million
Werner - £47 million
Chilwell - £50 million
Silva - Free

Total - £133 million

*fee taken from Wikipedia. So give and take a little if it's not accurate.

[killer1257 3,282]

Most still prefer Bernd. And Martinez didnt perform long enough to be evaluated like that. Surely he is an option, but who knows if its what we need. That said for 10m risk wouldnt be big.
IMO if Lopes was taller, he would be my pick and we would have GK set for few years.
 
 

On Arsenal mania, they want all Martinez as a no. 1 because of his size. They think that Leno may be a little bit of a better shot stopper, but Martinez dominance in the box is way better than Leno's.
I rarely read that Leno is better than Martinez

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[Pizy 18,368]

18 minutes ago, Jason said:

2017/18 summer spending:
Rudiger - £29 million
Bakayoko - £40 million
Morata - £58 million
Zappacosta - £23 million
Drinkwater - £35 million

Total - £185 million

2020/21 summer spending:
Ziyech - £36 million
Werner - £47 million
Chilwell - £50 million
Silva - Free

Total - £133 million

*fee taken from Wikipedia. So give and take a little if it's not accurate.

Christ. Morata, Baka, and Zappa were poor but at least they played enough for us to find out they were poor. Drinkwater is the worst buy easily becasue he didn't even get a look in. Feels like he got about 2 Chelsea appearences. Literally money flushed down the drain.

 

[killer1257 3,282]

But ultimately we don't know how much his performances are due to the momentum and/or surprise package. Coming to Chelsea as a number 1 is a different ball game to his run in the Arsenal side where he could only have won.

Why could he have only won? Leno is a decent keeper. It is a statement by Martinez that many Arsenal fans believe that he is better than Leno.
What is so different between Arsenal and Chelsea? Same league, we even have better defenders than Arsenal. Martinez could have just been another Kepa, but he showed that he is a great GK.

I do not know any 195 cm GK with that body frame that has shown it in Pl. I think that he has the highest catch rate in PL since he came on

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[King Kante 1,476]

2 hours ago, Strike said:

https://theathletic.com/2029141/2020/08/28/emi-emiliano-martinez-arsenal-transfer/

Emiliano Martinez for sale (maybe even below 10m). I think this could be a decent stop-gap option. He looked comfortable as Arsenal #1 and has good handling

Martinez is pretty much the best option for us. Cheap, knows the PL, will not be or want insane wages and if he doesn't work out we have a great GK2. 

Get this done. 

1 hour ago, Tomo said:

Disagree, too risky to sign him based on a months form.

Yeah, but every GK bar the elite ones like Alisson and Oblak, are big risks as they do not know the league. As we have seen through losing TC and then moving to Kepa one of the most important things a GK has to do in the PL is dominate his 6 yard area and catch high balls. This is quite different to Ligue 1, Edevisie and La Liga. Serie A and the Bundesliga are the only ones that really compare. So, for me, when it comes to a GK, we either need to go big i.e. Oblak, or go small i.e. Martinez/Foster as all the mid-priced GK's run into serious risks. Sure, some of them would be fine but one or two would likely not adapt. My personal fav is the Lille GK, but if it is £30-£40m for him or £8-£10m for Martinez or Foster on a free I am going for one of the PL based GK's as we cannot afford even another mid-priced mistake. Martinez if he was had for £10m, carries no disaster risk as his fee and wages would make him a slightly expensive GK2 if he isn't cut out for a No.1 spot. 

A another thing to consider is that we are lumbered with Kepa if he has to stay the GK budget is likely to be tight. 

1 hour ago, killer1257 said:

He has made many world class saves in PL against Pool and Spurs for instance.

He is 195 cm tall, has a big frame due tue his muscles and insane jumping abilities. He also is very dominant in the air and he improved his technical abilities.

10 million is nothing. Onana has weaknesses, but costs 30 million, Mendy is not perfect either.

 

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Yeah, lets be honest here. Most people on here have probably seen more of Martinez than they have of any of the French based GK's. Onana may they have seen more of owing to CL. 

Either way, I am with you on this. Everything Martinez showed since taking over at Le Arse from Leno showed excellent to very good levels of GK work. Sure, he isn't perfect but if he really is £10m he has to be the no brainer option. 

(Unless that is one of the French based GK's are absolutely 100% world class and will be able to handle the PL. I do not know the answer to this as all I have seen are youtube clips, stats and a couple of Lille games which are nowhere near enough to make a definitive conclusion.) Onana I am not really sold on owing to his parrying into danger too often. 

[Supermonkey92 1,428]

Yeah, lets be honest here. Most people on here have probably seen more of Martinez than they have of any of the French based GK's. Onana may they have seen more of owing to CL. 
Either way, I am with you on this. Everything Martinez showed since taking over at Le Arse from Leno showed excellent to very good levels of GK work. Sure, he isn't perfect but if he really is £10m he has to be the no brainer option. 
(Unless that is one of the French based GK's are absolutely 100% world class and will be able to handle the PL. I do not know the answer to this as all I have seen are youtube clips, stats and a couple of Lille games which are nowhere near enough to make a definitive conclusion.) Onana I am not really sold on owing to his parrying into danger too often. 

RAJKOVIC .

I'm so gutted we aren't in for me

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[Ryan Fong 2,776]

Arsenal will never sell him to us for 10m, be realistic and think about it guys.