Chelsea Transfers

[killer1257 3,282]

While La Liga has top sides, the rest of them are awful like Championship level. And that is where Messi got most of his goals from.
He got scored zero against RM, zero against Villarreal, 1 against Sevilla (Free Kick), 1 against Sociedad (but it was a pen) and 1 against Atletico Madrid (but it was a pen).
Against decent sides he’s bang average this season.

Against Atletico, he scored 1 goal and that was not a penalty december 2019. It was a world class goal. He had 3 assists against Villareal. Is that considered bad now? He has 1 goal and 1 assist against Sociedad.

And La Liga is clearly not Championship level. Tactically and technically, they are better than Serie A and Bundesliga overall.



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[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

8 minutes ago, BluesMadLad said:

Wonder if he headbutts like him to

Yeah in the kneecaps 

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

11 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Reckon he'd be good without the growth hormones Messi took. Running rings round people, very low centre of gravity, nutmegging Pogba and then running between his legs

Have you noticed how dirty some modern players are in the last few years we've had Dunga, Kaka, Dodo,Messi and Shittu 

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

56 minutes ago, Mana said:

Really debatable if Messi is currently the best player in the world and improve City in many ways.

Because I don’t think he is. He was definitely but now?

There is nobody better than Messi still and there never will be.

He again has dragged Barcelona through another shit season where basically he has had to be the only guy who steps up to the plate, again. Like he has done many times since Luis Enrique left and even before then his individual genius in the greatest club team in perhaps football history or the last 25 years is probably more than enough to cement his position as the greatest player ever and if Ronaldo didnt exist, it would be undeniable.

People will talk about La Liga and their teams or whatever not being that good but Seville just won the Europa League beating United on the way, Atletico schooled Liverpool in knockout football in the CL, Real were beaten fair and square by City but would beat every other PL team with significant ease bar City and Liverpool. Even then all these outside top 4 clubs in the PL have triple or quadruple the budgets of these outside top 4 or 5 Spanish teams and are probably worse. The Villa’s, Norwich’s, Bournemouth’s, Fulham’s, Everton’s, Cardiff’s, West Ham’s, Newcastle’s etc have all spent fuck tonnes in the last however many years and would probably finish in the same shit positions. Or worse.

It is definitely harder to play in Spain than what people think - ironically, its still mainly PL fans who turn their nose up at the standards of the other teams outside Barcelona, Real, Atletico, Sevilla and Valencia as if ours are really any better? - even more so when you look at all the top players who play very well in Spain and then come over here and don’t necessarily struggle or need too long to make a transition. If the Spanish league was too easy to play in do you think the PL would have brought over so many players from there in the last 10 years? Not a chance. 

Wouldnt improve City? he would improve them significantly. Hes a very consistent goalscorer, assist maker, wins more fouls, creates more chances, makes more key passes, completes more dribbles than most players in Europe. Hes 33 now, okay he maybe isnt the way he was 7,8,9 years ago but he is still significantly better than most players in Europe. Him and Ronaldo would improve all teams in Europe. Even at their ages. Theyre still better than Neymar, Mbappe etc.

[Supermonkey92 1,428]

Jesus fucking christ...

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[milka 3,394]

 

 

No way I`d take Leo Messi at Chelsea at this time under any circumstances. Absolutely not what we need at the moment , and runs counter to the project we are building . Thanks , but no thanks

For  sure Messi in Premier League would be interesting ( probably City)

[Azul 1,615]

I was thinking about why we were linked with Maignan and it all makes sense to me.

If you put two-and-two together then you'll realise that it has to do with him being a French speaking player. Thiago Silva spent years in Ligue 1 so he can definitely speak French. Zouma is another French player, and Kante(our CDM) as well. 

The communication between these defensive players is what's going to make our defence solid. That's why I think we could sign Maignan.

[Jase 43,479]

1 minute ago, Azul said:

I was thinking about why we were linked with Maignan and it all makes sense to me.

If you put two-and-two together then you'll realise that it has to do with him being a French speaking player. Thiago Silva spent years in Ligue 1 so he can definitely speak French. Zouma is another French player, and Kante(our CDM) as well. 

The communication between these defensive players is what's going to make our defence solid. That's why I think we could sign Maignan.

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

6 minutes ago, milka said:

 

 

No way I`d take Leo Messi at Chelsea at this time under any circumstances. Absolutely not what we need at the moment , and runs counter to the project we are building . Thanks , but not thanks

For  sure Messi in Premier League would be interesting ( probably City)

Greatest player to have ever played but you don‘t want him because he runs counter the project we are building?

To a lesser extent I am guessing Thiago Silva also runs counter to it because hes like 35 also? 
 

If so okay I see but even then I dont see the logic. If Messi isnt what we need at the moment we might as well say to Roman release everybody and sell up the club. Because we arent going to get anybody we need then if the greatest player of all time isnt what we need in one way or another.

[Jase 43,479]

1 minute ago, OneMoSalah said:

Greatest player to have ever played but you don‘t want him because he runs counter the project we are building?

To a lesser extent I am guessing Thiago Silva also runs counter to it because hes like 35 also? 
 

If so okay I see but even then I dont see the logic. If Messi isnt what we need at the moment we might as well say to Roman release everybody and sell up the club. Because we arent going to get anybody we need then if the greatest player of all time isnt what we need in one way or another.

Don't know why 'Messi to Chelsea' is even a discussion. We aren't going to get him. He isn't going to come here.  

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

Just now, Jason said:

Don't know why 'Messi to Chelsea' is even a discussion. We aren't going to get him. He isn't going to come here.  

I know but imagine, going from Willian to Messi as our number 10. The whole we dont need him or he wouldnt Improve team x y or z talk is ludicrous. 

[Dimitr 488]

Hahahaha 

[Jase 43,479]

2 minutes ago, Dimitr said:

Hahahaha 

That is too much drama for one night...

[BlueLyon 9,359]

46 minutes ago, Jason said:

Don't know why 'Messi to Chelsea' is even a discussion. We aren't going to get him. He isn't going to come here.  

While I agree there is like 1% of Messi coming here, would you say there is any chance we are getting Kai, Werner, Thiago, 60m LB, Ziyech and very likely a new GK in single window a year ago? 

Its definately not impossible given all the stuff happening around Chelsea these days.

[blu35_army 551]

hope messi didn't come to PL. letting him go to city for playing alongside KDB is absolutely fraud,,i can't imagine how much sterling and jesus would jump their goals stat for fun and city broke (again) the record maybe 130 goals for one single season at PL...

anyway,,who need "Old Messi" when we already have "a german messi" now...

[King Kante 1,643]

Personally I reckon Messi goes to Italy. That seems the most logical step for him as it is the easiest for aging players to play in owing to its tactical nature. My money is actually on Juventus. They are absolutely desperate for a CL, have money (even in a Covid world) and there have been rumours they are looking to shift Dybala again. 

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

11 hours ago, Mana said:

Never is quite a strong statement. I strongly disagree with you because how do you know there'll never be another player great as Messi? And personally, I think prime Ronaldo is better than prime Messi.

I think Suarez also helped dragged Barcelona through this season. It's not all about Messi.

Also my statement isn't about me thinking Messi isn't the greatest player of all time. My statement is about whether Messi is the still the best player in the planet NOW, and I don't believe so.

...I mentioned La Liga had quality teams. I'm aware of Sevilla winning the EL. What I said was La Liga has piss poor teams in the league as well. Teams like Eibar isn't a quality side (although they did beat Valencia).

Okay. Which La Liga player that didn't play for Real Madrid, Barcelona, Sevilla and Atletico prior succeeded to do well in the PL? Can you answer that?

I don’t think we will but as you’ve said never say never. Although its more likely to be unlikely. Even at 33 and however old Cristiano is both are considerably better than the next batch of players who are closest to them right now. If the Brazilian Ronaldo didnt have injuries he’d be right up there for me as well but he did and while he achieved a lot he like Ronaldinho (bit harsh on him as he was unbelievable for like 3 or 4 seasons), underachieved in a lot of ways for what youd expect players with their natural talent should of gone on and done.

Messi contributed 31 Goals and 24 assists in all competitions. In the league he was involved with 25 goals and 21 assists. Barcelona scored 86 goals in La Liga. Messi was involved in more than 50% of them. Suarez had only 16 goals in La Liga and 8 assists. Theres only one guy who carried Barcelona this year and his name is Leo Messi. 

Out of interest who is better than Messi right now? Mbappe? Neymar? Lewandowski? Hazard? Cristiano? Messi and Cristiano still much better than most of them, comfortably. Lewandowski is oustanding and should be in amongst them two for his last 2 seasons IMO also. 

Again though there are these shitter teams so to speak, they arent any worse than the relegation fodder in the PL in fact I bet some of them teams that went down this season were twice the teams Bournemouth, Watford and Norwich are for instance. Or be better than Fulham 2 seasons ago who spent 150m or Villa this season who spent 100+ m.

And lastly, cmon.... really, where do I start? Laporte is currently strolling the PL for City. Played for Athletic Bilbao. Former fans favourite Juan Mata (?) and David Silva both who came to the PL from Valencia, would say they found it relatively easy. Santi Cazorla came to Arsenal from Malaga and had a good spell in the PL. Ander Herrera again, solid player... did well for United, came from Athletic Bilbao. Zabaleta joined Man City from Espanyol years ago and became one of the top RBs for many seasons. Xavi Alonso??? Played for Sociedad prior to Liverpool. If I could be arsed to look deeper and find more players I would but I am sure you get the point. Be some glaring misses probably.

[oldportblue 547]

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[Arlen Correa 161]

Messi called Neymar last week and told him that he is going to City, and asked Neymar to make an effort to go there too in 2021. Someone from Neymar family told this history to Jorge Nicola, journo of Espn Brazil.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Inter would be best possible option. None PL rivals get him, Juve vs Inter (CR vs Messi) one last time. It would make serie a more interesting.