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1 minute ago, OneMoSalah said:

Greatest player to have ever played but you don‘t want him because he runs counter the project we are building?

To a lesser extent I am guessing Thiago Silva also runs counter to it because hes like 35 also? 
 

If so okay I see but even then I dont see the logic. If Messi isnt what we need at the moment we might as well say to Roman release everybody and sell up the club. Because we arent going to get anybody we need then if the greatest player of all time isnt what we need in one way or another.

Don't know why 'Messi to Chelsea' is even a discussion. :lol: We aren't going to get him. He isn't going to come here.  

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Just now, Jason said:

Don't know why 'Messi to Chelsea' is even a discussion. :lol: We aren't going to get him. He isn't going to come here.  

I know but imagine, going from Willian to Messi as our number 10. The whole we dont need him or he wouldnt Improve team x y or z talk is ludicrous. 

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46 minutes ago, Jason said:

Don't know why 'Messi to Chelsea' is even a discussion. :lol: We aren't going to get him. He isn't going to come here.  

While I agree there is like 1% of Messi coming here, would you say there is any chance we are getting Kai, Werner, Thiago, 60m LB, Ziyech and very likely a new GK in single window a year ago? 

Its definately not impossible given all the stuff happening around Chelsea these days.

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hope messi didn't come to PL. letting him go to city for playing alongside KDB is absolutely fraud,,i can't imagine how much sterling and jesus would jump their goals stat for fun and city broke (again) the record maybe 130 goals for one single season at PL...

anyway,,who need "Old Messi" when we already have "a german messi" now...:P

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Personally I reckon Messi goes to Italy. That seems the most logical step for him as it is the easiest for aging players to play in owing to its tactical nature. My money is actually on Juventus. They are absolutely desperate for a CL, have money (even in a Covid world) and there have been rumours they are looking to shift Dybala again. 

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11 hours ago, Mana said:

Never is quite a strong statement. I strongly disagree with you because how do you know there'll never be another player great as Messi? And personally, I think prime Ronaldo is better than prime Messi.

I think Suarez also helped dragged Barcelona through this season. It's not all about Messi.

Also my statement isn't about me thinking Messi isn't the greatest player of all time. My statement is about whether Messi is the still the best player in the planet NOW, and I don't believe so.

...I mentioned La Liga had quality teams. I'm aware of Sevilla winning the EL. What I said was La Liga has piss poor teams in the league as well. Teams like Eibar isn't a quality side (although they did beat Valencia).

Okay. Which La Liga player that didn't play for Real Madrid, Barcelona, Sevilla and Atletico prior succeeded to do well in the PL? Can you answer that?

I don’t think we will but as you’ve said never say never. Although its more likely to be unlikely. Even at 33 and however old Cristiano is both are considerably better than the next batch of players who are closest to them right now. If the Brazilian Ronaldo didnt have injuries he’d be right up there for me as well but he did and while he achieved a lot he like Ronaldinho (bit harsh on him as he was unbelievable for like 3 or 4 seasons), underachieved in a lot of ways for what youd expect players with their natural talent should of gone on and done.

Messi contributed 31 Goals and 24 assists in all competitions. In the league he was involved with 25 goals and 21 assists. Barcelona scored 86 goals in La Liga. Messi was involved in more than 50% of them. Suarez had only 16 goals in La Liga and 8 assists. Theres only one guy who carried Barcelona this year and his name is Leo Messi. 

Out of interest who is better than Messi right now? Mbappe? Neymar? Lewandowski? Hazard? Cristiano? Messi and Cristiano still much better than most of them, comfortably. Lewandowski is oustanding and should be in amongst them two for his last 2 seasons IMO also. 

Again though there are these shitter teams so to speak, they arent any worse than the relegation fodder in the PL in fact I bet some of them teams that went down this season were twice the teams Bournemouth, Watford and Norwich are for instance. Or be better than Fulham 2 seasons ago who spent 150m or Villa this season who spent 100+ m.

And lastly, cmon.... really, where do I start? Laporte is currently strolling the PL for City. Played for Athletic Bilbao. Former fans favourite Juan Mata (?) and David Silva both who came to the PL from Valencia, would say they found it relatively easy. Santi Cazorla came to Arsenal from Malaga and had a good spell in the PL. Ander Herrera again, solid player... did well for United, came from Athletic Bilbao. Zabaleta joined Man City from Espanyol years ago and became one of the top RBs for many seasons. Xavi Alonso??? Played for Sociedad prior to Liverpool. If I could be arsed to look deeper and find more players I would but I am sure you get the point. Be some glaring misses probably.

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1 hour ago, Arlen Correa said:

Messi called Neymar last week and told him that he is going to City, and asked Neymar to make an effort to go there too in 2021. Someone from Neymar family told this history to Jorge Nicola, journo of Espn Brazil.

you gotta be kidding mate,,it's like fairytale stories....:D

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We aren't getting Messi. We defo can't afford him anyway with what we have already spent this window especially.

Now city could well get Messi. We're building a squad to challenge for titles but is that this year... Who knows, probably unlikely so it may be that the timing (if he went to City) wouldn't work out terribly as they were massive favourites to win the league anyway.

Now if someone like united somehow signed Messi we'd have a problem but I can't see that one happening

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As much as I would love to have Messi at the Bridge (he is for me the best) but we shouldnt be going after him (even that thoughts shouldnt linger in the board's mind). We are building something big which would last for few years if things go well .... with Messi coming in, I fear everything would revlove around him ... he becomes the focus rather than the team. Success would mean his success whereas failure would fall on the team. 

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2 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Messi joining city would be so wrong on every level. 

Hope he realises anything he wins with them would be Illegitimate given they are proven cheaters. 

Would probably be the worst thing to happen to City. There is no way they will be able to afford him just by cash. Its got to be a player+player+cash or player+player+player deal.

If I was on the Barca board, I would ask for a KDB+Jesus+angelino deal (Angelino as they were anyways rumored to want, Jesus to replace the suarez who is rumored to have his contract suspended and KDB is the most obvious guy).

That deal would be worth 300m (200m+70m+30m). I seriously expect it to be a NBA type deal.

Will be interesting to see how this plays.

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A bit confused about our Loan dealings. According to the new rule: Players aged 22 and older are affected by the new rules, which only allow eight loans in and out as of the 2020/21 season – from the 2022/23 onwards, the limit is set at six players.

Currently we already have: Piazon (26), Izzy brown (23), blackman (26), Pantic (23)

So thats 4 players. We have Baka, zappa, DD, MvG, Moses,Tomori (22), Baba Rahman (26), Kenedy (24), Lewis Baker (24), Musonda (23), Clarke-Salter (22)

I mean, am I missing anything? Or does it look like we are going to have to be giving a lot of wages for people for just sitting about doing nothing.

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