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Curious for next season if we sign Rice do we go back to 4-2-3-1 with him and Kante double pivot or we keep 4-3-3? This season later is best option no doubt but not sure for next season. 

Kante is doing very well so not sure Rice can bench him. And where would that leave Gilmour? 

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On 20/11/2020 at 3:57 PM, R2D2 said:

The only thing you proved is you are incredibly gullible and think Topps is some kind of reliable source let alone being quoted only by some poor articles from mirror and thesun. Imagine thinking Messi would mention that guy if someone didn't specifically ask about him, probably doesn't even know who Mount is or what qualities he possesses.

The Mount defenders spouting nonsense and getting triggered for everything under the moon, I didn't even mention Mount this thread, commented because all English players at our club seem to push for the Declan agenda someone I simply don't rate as high as you, who is shoving him everywhere. Does that clear your paranoia with Mount? I saw in the Mount thread people arguing with each others so I don't even bother responding anymore because some are beyond sensitive with every negative word for him.

As has been adressed to you before, no one has an issue with the fact you don't particularly rate Mount, it's the clear and obvious bitterness and hatred you display towards him. I've not seen a Chelsea fan speak about Dele Alli with the same level of venom you speak about Mount.

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51 minutes ago, Tomo said:

As has been adressed to you before, no one has an issue with the fact you don't particularly rate Mount, it's the clear and obvious bitterness and hatred you display towards him. I've not seen a Chelsea fan speak about Dele Alli with the same level of venom you speak about Mount.

and the funny thing (in terms of what that poster said) is that I am one of the most neutral Mount people here, I neither bash him nor ramble on in praise, I do not even talk about him that much

and all one needs to do in terms of Rice and me is go look at some of my hundreds to scouting/targeting posts 

In terms of DMFs I have been a huge Zakaria and Partey fangirl

but now Partey is at arse and and Zakaria shredded his knee

I also, DMF wise have been a crazy booster of Camavinga

I have leaned towards Rice often as a CB option

but I think he is a good buy for either, and the club seems hell bent on buying him soon

Zakaria is too much of a risk now, maybe down the road after he has shown for a full year (2021/22 and maybe even 2022/23 on top of that) that he is fully sound

Rice and Kante would work as a double pivot imho

so would Camavinga and Kante

and Camavinga and Rice

and Camavinga can play CMF too,

and Rice CB (or has the potential to at least, as he was not poor at all there in the past)

but I love a 4 3 3 more

Rice deffo strengthens the team no matter what

and is a smart future-forward buy as Kante and Thiago are not going to be around in 3 years or so

 

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The 4231 just limits the team in general. Doesn't matter who is playing there. Our fluidity in attack is not existent when we have two holding midfielders. 

If we do get Rice, I hope Lampard tells him he sees him as Kante's successor  and that he will be utilized as either rotation or for tactical purposes for the time being. 

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6 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

The 4231 just limits the team in general. Doesn't matter who is playing there. Our fluidity in attack is not existent when we have two holding midfielders. 

If we do get Rice, I hope Lampard tells him he sees him as Kante's successor  and that he will be utilized as either rotation or for tactical purposes for the time being. 

the only player where I would say a double pivot would not hurt in terms of fluidity is my usual bang on

Camavinga, as he is so multi-dimensional

maybe maybe Bruno Guimarães

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I would rather we spent the 60-80m on Camavinga to be honest than signed Rice. Physically, technically and tactically will surpass Rice if he hasnt already. Going to be a monster of a player. Dont see any glaring weaknesses in his make up. Saying that think he would be better playing every week at Rennes for another season or two and has plenty time to get that big move.

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3 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

I would rather we spent the 60-80m on Camavinga to be honest than signed Rice. Physically, technically and tactically will surpass Rice if he hasnt already. Going to be a monster of a player. Dont see any glaring weaknesses in his make up. Saying that think he would be better playing every week at Rennes for another season or two and has plenty time to get that big move.

Not gonna happen mate, Lamps has his sights on DR.

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On 22/11/2020 at 4:49 PM, OneMoSalah said:

I would rather we spent the 60-80m on Camavinga to be honest than signed Rice. Physically, technically and tactically will surpass Rice if he hasnt already. Going to be a monster of a player. Dont see any glaring weaknesses in his make up. Saying that think he would be better playing every week at Rennes for another season or two and has plenty time to get that big move.

we should buy them both, Rice now and Camavinga in 2022, after we have cleared the books of almost all of the dregs

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On 11/22/2020 at 11:49 PM, OneMoSalah said:

I would rather we spent the 60-80m on Camavinga to be honest than signed Rice. Physically, technically and tactically will surpass Rice if he hasnt already. Going to be a monster of a player. Dont see any glaring weaknesses in his make up. Saying that think he would be better playing every week at Rennes for another season or two and has plenty time to get that big move.

It depend on what is our plan, for midfield. 

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22 minutes ago, R2D2 said:

Delusional at it's finest, a bang average player, thankfully we don't need to worry in the summer about going for this guy.

completely and profoundly disagree, he is a bloody beast

I have watched almost every West Ham game this season

he is quite often magnificent

hardly any players are worth £100m though

due to ages

I would say the only ones I would (if it was necessary) shell out £100m plus for

are 

Mbappe

Håland

maybe Sancho ( he has exploded again, and is clearly a monster)

If he was 25, 27, then EASILY De Bruyne too (but he soon turns 30yo)

and finally

Kimmich

Kane is close, but no cigar for me

Oblak is soon too old for THAT level of cash (turns 29 middle of next season, and for 100m for a GKer, I expect 8 to 10 years of WC play, and almost all keepers start to fall off by 34/35ish)

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