Mikel John Obi

[nadavTKL 1,787]

we can't go into the season expecting to challenge on all fronts without a genuine DM.

Well, we're not playing with a genuine DM so why not? you think Man City cant make Barry and Garcia go because they are the only "genuine DM's"? most teams dont play with genuine DM'S.

Ramires and Essien are enough. I say bring in a DLP and sell Mikel.

[The Skipper 20,593]

Can you really see Jose selecting him ahead of Lamps, MvG, Ramires, or even Essien? Mikel doesn't really offer anything that the others don't.

May as well cash in while we can and replace him with a player who can contribute much more.

Yes, I actually can.

I'm not going to say much because it's been discussed to death before but Mikel is our best DM, and if we do end up playing a few games with 4-3-3 then I can easily see him starting as our holding midfielder in that.

Like I said, you really can't make serious conclusions over the role any player will play after only a mere 2 games.

[Toli 977]

ChelsTransferGossip ‏@ChelsTransfer 5m

Galatasaray have reportedly submitted an offer of €12m for John Obi Mikel (Sky Sports) #CFC

only makes sense if we buy a new one (de rossi?!) would either sell essien than mikel though.

[Pizy 18,368]

Yes, I actually can.

I'm not going to say much because it's been discussed to death before but Mikel is our best DM, and if we do end up playing a few games with 4-3-3 then I can easily see him starting as our holding midfielder in that.

Like I said, you really can't make serious conclusions over the role any player will play after only a mere 2 games.

Fair enough.

Just believe that we could improve our team by bringing in literally any of the DM's we've been linked with. De Rossi, Matic, Khedira, Kondogbia, Witsel. Any of those players offer far more than Mikel does.

[bleed_blue 136]

Mikel is our best DM

Mikel is our only DM

I don't think these guys understand the definition of DM.

Just because somebody has been playing in a position for a long time, does not mean he is a DM or good at it.

It has been proven over and over again that he is very poor at shielding the defense and the lesser said about his deep lying playmaking, the better.

[Jase 43,479]

ChelsTransferGossip ‏@ChelsTransfer 5m

Galatasaray have reportedly submitted an offer of €12m for John Obi Mikel (Sky Sports) #CFC

only makes sense if we buy a new one (de rossi?!) would either sell essien than mikel though.

Make sense? With Chelsea? After making so many good and sensible decisions all of a sudden in recent times, it wouldn't be a surprise if the club go and make a dumb move to even things up...

[Mufassir08 2,400]

Sell!

Buy de rossi.

+1

[The only place to be 11,313]

Yes, I actually can.

I'm not going to say much because it's been discussed to death before but Mikel is only DM by the very narrow definition some people still choose to use based on an era circa-2006 when Makelele was still in our squad.

Not fixed, but my interpretation of what people mean when they say DM. The DM we had in 2006, the DM we tried to mould Mikel into isn't the same DM we need in the double pivot in 2013 (and beyond).

That static Defensive Midfield role was surely put to bed in last season's Champions League Final when you saw two teams line up with dynamic holding midfielders/defensive midfielders/double pivot/ whatever you want to call those players who were literally a generation apart from Mikel.

Fuck, even we decided that 60 minutes of David Luiz offering a more dynamic (see how I keep using this word) take on that role was preferable to Mikel. Look at Van Ginkel - he is the future of that position. He's also the present....Mikel is a relic.

[Phil Driver 503]

Cmon Obi the message must be loud and clear ,the worlds best manager does not rate you ,time to move on son. Picking up your large wage packet on a long contract is going to tarnish the myth that you could actually play football .

[Stats 7,053]

Cmon Obi the message must be loud and clear ,the worlds best manager does not rate you ,time to move on son. Picking up your large wage packet on a long contract is going to tarnish the myth that you could actually play football .

Don't take this the wrong way or anything but it starts to get bloody irritating when you keep moaning about Mikel 24-7. An opinion is fine but all you ever do is post about how bad Mikel is and why Mourinho does not want him etc... and how good Lampard is, nothing else.

Sounds like you have a personal agenda the way you keep ranting on about Mikel. He might go he might not but if he stays I will be pleased and I still feel he has a lot to offer to the team.

[Phil Driver 503]

An opinion is fine but all you ever do is post about how bad Mikel is and why Mourinho does not want him etc... and how good Lampard is, nothing else.

Rubbish ,go to ex players and you will find my David Speedie thread ,have you even ever heard of David Speedie?

But yes it is only right to dig out poor players hanging around on big contracts who are clearly not going to play and those who are being written off way to early and have plenty to offer,it seems Mourinho sees it this way as well if team selection is a guide,dont worry I will not take it the wrong way ,I will keep on posting what I posted on how Mourinho will not fancy Mikel because he is a special manager who can see who is contributing on the pitch.

[Stats 7,053]

An opinion is fine but all you ever do is post about how bad Mikel is and why Mourinho does not want him etc... and how good Lampard is, nothing else.

Rubbish ,go to ex players and you will find my David Speedie thread ,have you even ever heard of David Speedie?

But yes it is only right to dig out poor players hanging around on big contracts who are clearly not going to play and those who are being written off way to early and have plenty to offer,it seems Mourinho sees it this way as well if team selection is a guide,dont worry I will not take it the wrong way ,I will keep on posting what I posted on how Mourinho will not fancy Mikel because he is a special manager who can see who is contributing on the pitch.

But the way you go on about Mikel is like you have a personal agenda against him. "Tarnishing the myth that you (Mikel) can actually play football". That sounds patronizing and is quite unfair. Mikel might be in the starting lineup against United. That is my opinion anyway because those are the sort of games I can see Mourinho using him in. As I said nothing against you but your hate for him goes way over the top sometimes.

[Phil Driver 503]

But the way you go on about Mikel is like you have a personal agenda against him. "Tarnishing the myth that you (Mikel) can actually play football". That sounds patronizing and is quite unfair. Mikel might be in the starting lineup against United. That is my opinion anyway because those are the sort of games I can see Mourinho using him in. As I said nothing against you but your hate for him goes way over the top sometimes.

From team selection so far I see Van Ginkel and Essien in front of Mikel and am completely in agreement with this ,at OT I can see Lampard and Ramires as certain starters and one of Van Ginkel or Essien replacing Mata or Oscar ,sorry I dont see Mourinho using Mikel at the likes of OT ,we will see.

By the way do you know anything about David Speedie if not ,have a look at my thread and no I take nothing personally ,everybody has an opinion inc. me and Mourinho.

Lets see what happens ,I think Mourinho does not fancy Mikel .

[zolayes 14,489]

perhaps now we can sell Mikel

[Blue Armour 4,278]

perhaps now we can sell Mikel

If Mikel continues to stay on the bench, I'm pretty sure he'll seek a transfer away himself.

[Jase 43,479]

perhaps now we can sell Mikel

But but but Jose said we aren't selling anyone...

[zolayes 14,489]

But but but Jose said we aren't selling anyone...

I want him sold to piss off Choulou

[CHOULO19 24,332]

I want him sold to piss off Choulou

Have a bit too much time on your hands, Ron?