yuvala 2,167 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 wasn't that bad today, actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 That pass to Schurrle in the 2nd minute The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 slow motion Despiadado.Maleante 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I hope Mourinho instructs him to quicken up his play more. He has the ability there, but it really is up to both John and Jose to actually implement that ability in the correct way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I thought he was good yesterday, but I was disappointed that Jose seemed to give Essien the freedom to go forward more and not John. Essien seemed to just lose the ball whenever he received it in advanced areas. Mikel looked like he could create something in the rare occasions he did go forward. That said, both players had a very difficult job in the first half as the movement by the front four was almost nonexistent. Very anxious to see a Mikel-MVG partnership. Hope to see it sometime soon. Clevemayer and Rubber bullets 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I thought he was good yesterday, but I was disappointed that Jose seemed to give Essien the freedom to go forward more and not John. Essien seemed to just lose the ball whenever he received it in advanced areas. Mikel looked like he could create something in the rare occasions he did go forward. That said, both players had a very difficult job in the first half as the movement by the front four was almost nonexistent. Very anxious to see a Mikel-MVG partnership. Hope to see it sometime soon. I don't think Obi would go forward if he was a striker to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I don't think Obi would go forward if he was a striker to be honest.He does it brilliantly well for Nigeria. The Skipper, Rubber bullets and Bir_CFC 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleed_blue 136 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I thought he was good yesterday, but I was disappointed that Jose seemed to give Essien the freedom to go forward more and not John. Essien seemed to just lose the ball whenever he received it in advanced areas. Mikel looked like he could create something in the rare occasions he did go forward. That said, both players had a very difficult job in the first half as the movement by the front four was almost nonexistent. Very anxious to see a Mikel-MVG partnership. Hope to see it sometime soon. One wonders till how long will you keep blaming the front 4 for mikel's poor play. Shaan and Phil Driver 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 One wonders till how long will you keep blaming the front 4 for mikel's poor play.Lol. Anyone could see that the front four in the first half had no chemistry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 He does it brilliantly well for Nigeria. Because he started out his career as a CAM until Mourinho decided to put him in CDM, that was when his potential died. Now people are thinking we should do the same to Oscar and Kevin, LAUGHABLE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Because he started out his career as a CAM until Mourinho decided to put him in CDM, that was when his potential died. Now people are thinking we should do the same to Oscar and Kevin, LAUGHABLE.Lol. Mourinho played him at DM 12 times, whilst playing him 15 times next to Makelele. Mourinho wasn't the one who turned him into a CDM whatsoever. It was the likes of Scolari, Ancelotti, Grant etc. who decided to use him there afterward that made him so. And if Oscar were to move deeper he wouldn't become a CDM. I've told you this before, playing in the pivot does not mean you're automatically a defensive midfielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Lol. Mourinho played him at DM 12 times, whilst playing him 15 times next to Makelele. Mourinho wasn't the one who turned him into a CDM whatsoever. It was the likes of Scolari, Ancelotti, Grant etc. who decided to use him there afterward that made him so.And if Oscar were to move deeper he wouldn't become a CDM. I've told you this before, playing in the pivot does not mean you're automatically a defensive midfielder.The point is Jose started the trench and new managers just saw him as a CDM and uses him there.What on Earth would a pivot do? I am assuming we still keep 3 CAM which mean there are 2 spaces left for CDM, if one is ''pivot'' which I got no idea what you mean then that means there is only 1 space left for CDM. Now you want only 4 defenders and 1 CDM with 5 attacking players?What are the pivot's job anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Driver 503 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 The thought of Mikel playing any further forward is laughable ,can you imagine him trying to recover his position ,he is so slow and on top of that has no stamina,he is a static holding midfielder and a poor one at that ,all this talk of him playing further forward is surely a joke? For instance have you ever seen him shoot and compare that with Lampard's shooting prowess or Ramires stamina or Makelele's positional awareness? There is a reason why we tried to convert him to a holding midfielder and that was he is a poor attacking midfielder and the other reason he has played under so many managers is ,they were not always picking the team and were trying to please Roman and Emenalo ,this has finished with the return of Jose as will be revealed soon. Leif and Mufassir08 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 The thought of Mikel playing any further forward is laughable ,can you imagine him trying to recover his position ,he is so slow and on top of that has no stamina,he is a static holding midfielder and a poor one at that ,all this talk of him playing further forward is surely a joke? For instance have you ever seen him shoot and compare that with Lampard's shooting prowess or Ramires stamina or Makelele's positional awareness? There is a reason why we tried to convert him to a holding midfielder and that was he is a poor attacking midfielder and the other reason he has played under so many managers is ,they were not always picking the team and were trying to please Roman and Emenalo ,this has finished with the return of Jose as will be revealed soon. Mikel is neither slow nor has no stamina, In fact he is a really decent athlete. the problem is he is so lazy and has no drive whatsoever. That is what distinguishes him from Luiz Gustavo e.g. But I also got no idea how people see him as attacking midfielder. Clevemayer and semiller1313 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Driver 503 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Whatever ,so he is slow and has no stamina because he has no drive and is lazy ,either way he has never shown me he is a decent athlete maybe it is hidden but after seven years I have given up . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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