NikkiCFC 8,324 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 7 hours ago, Special Juan said: Ajax also brilliant handling of it on social media too. Β If I am Ajax fan I would be upset.Β Small club mentality by Ajax admin here. Vesper and nyikolajevics 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton 2,120 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Good business signing him now, cause we can not guarantee we will have cl next season.. killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,957 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 I see he had numbers 22 and 10 at Ajax. Hmm, that rings a bellΒ Fingers crossed he takes the 10 straight awayΒ DDA and NikkiCFC 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 8 hours ago, Pizy said: That is utter madness. He would cost Β£80m if he played for a PL club. more if he was called James Maddison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicco 927 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Good player for a great price, good luck to him and hope he kicks the ground running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 8 hours ago, Superblue_1986 said: Just a bit worried if he'll need a period of adaptation which at the age he's at he can't really be afforded because the physicality of the Premier League will probably come as a culture shock. Having said that from what I've seen of him, and also what I've heard about him, he's a hard worker too and prepared to press and run, not just pleasant on the eye. A left footed attacker is also a big plus, allowing for more variation and options for Lampard moving forward. I think whichever way you look at this though, a player who has torn up his league the last couple of seasons and played very well in Europe too, to be able to pick up for not much over Β£30m represents excellent value for business. It also emphasises the transfer signings we've made since the summer of 2018, that we are focusing on players who will suit a more expansive, attacking mentality to the one previously used by the club. He 26 not 30, he can be allowed a few months to get ready. But he has enough time to prepare physically and mentally already. He just can not afford to lose any pace cos he is already not the quickest. Not as bad as Mata who had ok acceleration but horrible end speed, Ziyech has longer legs. I also score him a few of those typical winger goals where he dribbles along the ride and then cuts inside, so he might be able to perform classic wing play as well as playing those awesom ecrossfield goals he is known for. Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duppy Conqueror 1,537 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 delighted by this move,classy player that will get bums off seats.and a fookin` bargain in todays market. abit of a shame that Ajax couldn`t keep the squad together to really return to the big time. spent a lot of time in Amsterdam in my younger days so have abit of a soft spot for them,but of course if they gonna break up that squad,rather them come to us that go elsewhere..got a feeling he won`t be the last Ajax player joining us. Van de Beek would be nice.. Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 25 minutes ago, Nicco said: Good player for a great price, good luck to him and hope he kicks the ground running. Calmed down already, aye? Β bigbluewillie, Nicco and Strike 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,916 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 I see ScoutNation just posted a nice long montage of him. His left foot truly is outrageous. And the great thing about him being left footed is that he can easily be switched to the opposite flank at any time if the opponent requires it. Reece James + Ziyech on one side and (hopefully) Chilwell + Pulisic/CHO on the other. Oh my! Those overlaps would be quite possibly best in Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nicco 927 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 3 hours ago, Jason said: Calmed down already, aye? Β Not like I have another wayΒ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea_firstlove 178 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 3 hours ago, Pizy said: I see ScoutNation just posted a nice long montage of him. His left foot truly is outrageous. And the great thing about him being left footed is that he can easily be switched to the opposite flank at any time if the opponent requires it. Reece James + Ziyech on one side and (hopefully) Chilwell + Pulisic/CHO on the other. Oh my! Those overlaps would be quite possibly best in Europe. No, Alaba + Sancho onΒ the other. We will destroy football. Alabama and Nicco 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 https://streamable.com/5jxj8 https://streamable.com/5jxj8 He's also a pressing machine killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Re-watched the various YouTube highlight reels of Ziyech a couple hundred times.Β What a player. What a transfer. What a time to be alive.Β kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbluewillie 1,930 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Where does this leave Pulisic? a player i rate very highly, i don't want to see him discarded. Also for that matter what about Mount, i rate him also, probably needs at least next season to find his true form. As for Ziyech i know very little of him other than seeing him in our 2 games against Ajax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 14, 2020 Author Share Posted February 14, 2020 17 minutes ago, bigbluewillie said: Where does this leave Pulisic? a player i rate very highly, i don't want to see him discarded. Also for that matter what about Mount, i rate him also, probably needs at least next season to find his true form. As for Ziyech i know very little of him other than seeing him in our 2 games against Ajax. Ziyech is brought in to replace Pedro/Willian... bigbluewillie and Vesper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Jase 43,479 Posted February 14, 2020 Author Popular Post! Share Posted February 14, 2020 Chelsea scouted Ziyech for three years, analysed what others feared and signed a βworld-classβ player whose life was turned around by a βbeautifulβ moment https://theathletic.com/1606311/2020/02/14/hakim-ziyech-chelsea-transfer/ Hakim Ziyech is the first expensive new face to be added to Chelseaβs squad in more than a year and Frank Lampard wonβt actually welcome him until July 1 β but everyone at the club is confident that the man Ajax dubbed βThe Wizard of Amsterdamβ will prove well worth the wait. This was a deal long in the making and one illustrative of Chelseaβs broader approach to transfers. Sources have told The Athletic that the framework of an agreement to bring Ziyech to Stamford Bridge was established with Ajax before Christmas but the Dutch club were unwilling to jeopardise their chances of winning the Eredivisie and Europa League by selling their best player in January. So Chelsea bided their time, resisting external pressure to pursue short-term fixes for Lampardβs squad in the winter market in favour of prioritising their long-term targets. The transfer deadline came and went without any movement, talks with Ajax resumed this week and both clubs were swiftly in a position to announce a deal worth an initial β¬40 million (about Β£33 million), potentially rising to β¬44 million. It is understood Chelsea have scouted Ziyech extensively for three years, and might have made their move last summer were it not for their FIFA-imposed transfer ban. Ziyech was available for β¬30 million at the time β a release clause that was removed when he signed a new contract in August 2019, which consisted of a pay rise rather than an extension. Other clubs were interested in acquiring him at that price, but the only serious approach last summer came from Sevilla, and Ziyech did not consider the move a significant step up from Ajax. Many of Europeβs elite clubs also took a look, but none were totally convinced. Some scouting reports and statistical analysis raised doubts about Ziyechβs occasional tendency to take bad shots from long distance or give the ball away in bad areas. The number of wayward passes that went hand-in-hand with every eye-catching assist divided opinion. More generally, Ziyechβs lean physique led some to question whether he has the required physicality to stand up to a more intense league. There were also concerns about his spikier personality traits, in addition to all the usual fears about whether Eredivisie production translates to a higher level. But the closer Chelsea looked at Ziyech, the more they liked him β not just his game and the way it was felt his skill set would complement what Lampard already had, but also his relationships with Ajax team-mates and staff. They were impressed with his ability to adapt to different tactical systems β playing as a No 8, a No 10 or winger, as Michael Cox explains here β and absorb complex instructions from his coaches. Just as crucially, they concluded that the perception of him as a troublesome character was unfair, and they are very confident that he will be a difference-maker in the Premier League. Ziyechβs consistently stellar performances in the Champions League over the past 18 months spoke heavily in his favour, and a virtuoso display in Ajaxβs 4-4 thriller with Chelsea at Stamford Bridge in November β featuring two assists and a free-kick that beat Kepa Arrizabalaga from an almost impossible angle β backed up the assessment that he would be a smart addition to Lampardβs squad. There were a number of senior scouts from elite European clubs at Stamford Bridge to watch the game, and one was moved to put Ziyech in the βworld-classβ category of his clubβs system as a result of what he saw. The Moroccanβs combination of technical quality β identifying attacking possibilities missed by everyone else on the pitch, then realising them β and relentless work rate, was dazzling. Chelseaβs efficiency in finalising this transfer so far ahead of the summer has been greeted with surprise in Europe, where English clubs are widely regarded as reactive and poor planners. Ziyech will arrive in England with the dual status of Ajaxβs talisman and the best player in the Eredivisie, much like Luis Suarez and Christen Eriksen did before him. But the path that Ziyech has walked to get to this point has been considerably longer and more arduous. Ziyech was only 14 years old when his mother and brother Faouzi sat him down for the conversation that would change his life. The youngest member of a large family, which also consists of four older brothers and three sisters, risked throwing his talented football career away before it had even really begun. Two male siblings had previously suffered that fate after being imprisoned for burglary. βMy mother noticed I wasnβt at home often,β he explained during an interview broadcast in the Netherlands in 2016. βI was outside with friends and I was coming home late. Of course, mums are always concerned. She felt that something wasnβt right. Mothers can sense things. βAt that very moment they asked me, βWhat do you want (in life)? Are you going to go left or are you going right? Eventually they convinced me to choose the right way, to make the right choice. βThey didnβt want it (what happened to his two brothers) to happen to me β they invested a lot in me. if I think back to it now, itβs beautiful.β Ziyechβs personal problems β he was already drinking and smoking β stemmed from struggling with the death of his father from multiple sclerosis four years earlier. Football seemed like a perfect outlet to cope with the grief. Having been spotted by scouts while playing for his local side ASV Dronten, Heerenveen offered the young playmaker a spot in their academy and even arranged a foster family to look after him while he was away from home. But nothing could help him get over losing his dad. It didnβt help that, due to financial reasons, Ziyech couldnβt attend the funeral in Morocco. He had to wait four years before he had the opportunity to visit the grave with his mother. βMy fatherβs death had quite an impact on me β not just after it happened, but when I became a bit older,β he added. βI started to realise what happened and that I would never see my father again. That is really hard for a young guy who hasnβt experienced a lot in the world. If you lose your dad at such a young age, itβs really painful. βMy mother was able to take me (to his grave) at 14 and at that moment you start to realise heβs lying there and will always remain there. I remember my mother saying to me then: βgo for it 100 per cent because he is watching and do it for himβ. And at that moment I really thought: βIβm going to do itβ.β That is not to say Chelseaβs new recruit has had a smooth and stress-free ride to the Premier League ever since β far from it. He may be softly spoken, but Ziyech has never been an individual afraid to express what heβs thinking. Despite conceding his behaviour hadnβt been the best, Ziyech wasnβt pleased that he had to wait longer than others to be given a professional contract at Heerenveen. He dropped out of school at the age of 16, but just when his motherβs and brotherβs advice threatened to be ignored, a father-figure emerged in Aziz Doufikar β the first Moroccan player to play in the Netherlands β to act as a mentor. Heerenveen rewarded his fine form at youth level with a debut at 19, but he went on to have only one full season as a first-team player before demanding a move elsewhere. The legendary ex-striker Marco van Basten was his coach, but their relationship was fractious. Ziyech felt he could have been in the first team sooner, but that there wasnβt enough communication and promises were broken. FC Twente won his signature in 2014 ahead of Feyenoord, who paid the price for saying he would play anywhere in their team but the No 10 position he craved. At first, the signs were good: there were 15 goals in the first campaign and he was made club captain for the following season. Then problems struck again. Much to his chagrin, FC Twente sacked inspirational manager Alfred Schreuder, the man who had persuaded him to join in the first place. The club were also beset with financial problems and Ziyech vented his frustrations publicly about how things were being run, making it clear he wanted to leave. He was stripped of the captaincy for his public criticism, though the club managed to convince him to see the season out. Did it negatively affect his form? A return of 17 goals and 10 assists says otherwise, and that was when he secured his big move to Ajax for an initial Β£10 million. Chelsea supporters concerned at what kind of character is being introduced into the Stamford Bridge dressing room need not be alarmed. Ziyech has matured over the years too. Indeed he now heads up a programme in Dronten to help young kids. That included bussing them to his final home game for FC Twente and talking with them afterwards in the hope of inspiring them to make better lives for themselves. Ajax were a bit worried when in 2018, they handed new acquisition Dusan Tadic the No 10 shirt which had belonged to Ziyech. But there were more signs of a growing character. Schreuder, who had been reunited with the player after being employed as Ajaxβs assistant manager, said: βHakim solved that excellently. Especially as the way it went was bothering him. But outwardly he has had no problem at all. βHe also did not blame Dusan. Together they have solved it very nicely. That marks the development that Ziyech has gone through.β Not that everyone in the country was convinced he had turned over a new leaf. There was some long-lasting bitterness from Ziyechβs decision to represent Morocco at international level in 2015 rather than the Netherlands. He had played for the Netherlands at under-19, under-20 and under-21 level and been called up for senior squad to face USA and Latvia earlier in the year, only to withdraw through injury. But speaking in an interview with de Volkskrant, Ziyech claimed: βThe better I was going to play, the less I was looked at. I didnβt get a call (from Netherlands) until I said I was going for Morocco. βThe Moroccan union had been working with me for years. I was born here (Holland), but my roots are there, my father is buried there. βItβs great how people react to you there. Everybody wants to help you, youβre really appreciated there. In the Netherlands, people are always looking for something negative.β Some might wonder whether heβs in for similar unfavourable treatment in England, given the high-profile nature of the Premier League, where every move is scrutinised. Yet when youβre blessed with a talent as spectacular as Ziyechβs, which will clearly be welcomed with open arms by everyone at Stamford Bridge, this could be the ideal marriage. So how should a coach β Frank Lampard, take note β manage him? In the words of the player himself: βHard, rock hard, with a little fun in between. With a lot of communication, but also with the message that you are ultimately responsible for your own career. βMy brother thinks Iβm too honest. Many Moroccan boys are afraid to come across arrogantly. I say what I think. Thatβs why Iβm tricky for some trainers. Still, you often see the troublesome guys making it. They have spirit, character, they want to be the best, draw motivation from criticism.β Ziyech will be 27 by the time he plays his first Premier League match. He is older than many Eredivisie stars who leave to test themselves on a grander stage, and also older than most of the players targeted by Chelsea since 2012. A significant part of Marina Granovskaiaβs job as chief negotiator is to balance signings with sales, and younger targets offer greater resale value. But at β¬44 million, Ziyech is more reasonably priced than many of the alternatives Chelsea have looked at β not least Wilfried Zaha, who was saddled with an Β£80 million price tag by Crystal Palace in January. Jadon Sancho would require an even greater outlay, but it is believed that this deal does not necessarily rule out a move for the most coveted teenager in world football. Wing reinforcements could be required beyond Ziyech this summer. Pedro will leave when his contract expires in June, and Willian could well follow if no agreement is reached over an extension to his deal. Chelsea have an option to buy Jeremie Boga back from Sassuolo, and the academy graduate presents a cost-effective alternative to any Sancho deal. Chelsea also have other needs to address in the summer transfer market: another striker to compete with Tammy Abraham, an upgrade at left-back, a high-level centre-back if one is available and even perhaps a goalkeeper to replace Kepa, should the Spain international fail to show signs of recovering from his alarming slump in form between now and the end of the season. But regardless of who follows him to Stamford Bridge in the coming months, Chelseaβs plan is for Ziyech to be a key element of the team Lampard is building. His age is regarded as a positive; with Pedro and potentially Willian leaving at the end of the season, such proven quality provides welcome balance to a squad now centred around youth, much of it home-grown. Confidence is high at Ajax that he will prove up to the task. βHe can make the difference with his vision and the way he plays,β former Netherlands international John Heitinga, who now coaches the clubβs U19 team, tells The Athletic. βWhen he has got the ball, something is happening. βThe goals that Quincy Promes is scoringβ¦ because of him (Ziyech), people are moving. He is 26 and already has some experience here in the Dutch league. He is going to be top for the Premier League. βHeβs a nice guy, works hard and loves the game. Heβs a different player to when he came here from FC Twente because now he is also doing things without the ball. In the beginning, it was just when he had the ball. Now he is doing both.β Chelseaβs first signing of 2020 is an exciting one. A player of rare gifts will soon be at Lampardβs disposal, and watching βThe Wizard of Amsterdamβ attempt to weave his magic in west London next season is likely to be compulsory viewing. killer1257, pHaRaOn, Fernando and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jase 43,479 Posted February 14, 2020 Author Share Posted February 14, 2020 Lampard on Ziyech... https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/2020/02/14/frank-lampard-outlines-the-qualities-that-hakim-ziyech-will-brin?cardIndex=0-0 βI know his qualities,β said our head coach. βHeβs a player we hope can bring creativity. He first came to my attention watching him play in Ajaxβs Champions League run last year and I thought he was one of their standout players, particularly in the games against Tottenham.β βThis season, weβve come up against him twice so I know a lot about him,β added the boss. βHe has a great left foot, plays generally off the right-hand side but can play in behind the frontman as well. When you look at us this season, there have been games where weβve maybe struggled to unlock the door and heβs certainly a player who we hope can bring that bit of creativity. βHe will be something different for us so weβre excited. I know heβs not coming in now but I think itβs exciting for us as a club and for the fans to know that heβll be here next year.β Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 14, 2020 Author Share Posted February 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, Jason said: Lampard on Ziyech... https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/2020/02/14/frank-lampard-outlines-the-qualities-that-hakim-ziyech-will-brin?cardIndex=0-0 Β Β Β kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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