Jorginho

[Magic Lamps 11,653]

He had a few big performances in this tournament but this  surely was not one of them.

[OneMoSalah 8,776]

Just now, Magic Lamps said:

He had a few big performances in this tournament but this  surely was not one of them.

Was a lot better second half when Mancini switched Insigne into a more central role though. But all of them were. Unfortunate with his penalty but should have stuck it same side he did v Spain.

[Superblue 6,370]

Penalty miss and Donnarumma's subsequent save for Saka probably cost him player of the tournament.

From about 20 minutes onwards and particularly in the second half him and Verratti dominated England. It was almost embarrassing in the second half how timid England were. I couldn't understand that Southgate didn't copy the formula that Spain implemented, pushing players high on Verratti and Jorginho. I think scoring so early was the worst thing that could have happened to England to be honest, despite the talent, too many players in that team have very little experience of winning trophies and seeing that out.

[kiwi1691 255]

5 hours ago, Superblue_1986 said:

From about 20 minutes onwards and particularly in the second half him and Verratti dominated England. It was almost embarrassing in the second half how timid England were. I couldn't understand that Southgate didn't copy the formula that Spain implemented, pushing players high on Verratti and Jorginho. I think scoring so early was the worst thing that could have happened to England to be honest, despite the talent, too many players in that team have very little experience of winning trophies and seeing that out.

You seem to have forgotten that Spain have a much better midfield than England. 

[Jase 43,479]

1 hour ago, kiwi1691 said:

You seem to have forgotten that Spain have a much better midfield than England. 

There's more than one way to skin a cat. Yes, Spain/Italy have better midfielders than England from a technical perspective but don't think they are better from a physical standpoint. Even Mancini said it post-game last night but England never bullied or tried to bully Italy's midfield out of their rhythm. 

[Johnnyeye 7,440]

No doubt he had a great tournament, but his penalty miss could have been really costly for Italy on another day, Donnarumma saved his blushes, i will never be a fan of his penalty taking style. It worked vs Spain, but this time it backfired.

[coolhead23 1,146]

Based on the titles for this season, Jorginho with Emerson are among the best players in Europe followed by Mount, Resse and Chilwell 😁

[Superblue 6,370]

2 hours ago, Johnnyeye said:

No doubt he had a great tournament, but his penalty miss could have been really costly for Italy on another day, Donnarumma saved his blushes, i will never be a fan of his penalty taking style. It worked vs Spain, but this time it backfired.

He has taken a Chelsea pen before without the hop, can't remember who against maybe Spurs?

The hop isn't my favoured choice of penalty style but his overall penalty record for Chelsea and Napoli holds up against other players. And I much prefer the way Jorgi and Bruno take a penalty to the way Rashford and Sancho tried to take theirs with about 25 stutters in their run up.

[Vesper 28,773]

5 hours ago, kiwi1691 said:

You seem to have forgotten that Spain have a much better midfield than England. 

yet they keep trotting out the rinsed fraud Sergio Busquets

he has been shit for at least 2 years

go watch him get raped at Barca by dogshit teams the past 2 season

even that Barca nutrider geordie assclown Ray Hudson now rips him at times

he is close to the only thing I disagree with Enrique on

Mancini and Enrique were by far the two best managers in the tournament

[Vesper 28,773]

he is being turned into a villain by the UK and US press

on the biggest US political morning talk show, watched by 20 million plus, the hosts are calling Italy a thug team, boring, unskilled (in SOCCER, of course)

roflmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[Kunka21 12]

only yesterday we understand deference betwen mount and jorginho 

[Atomiswave 6,072]

2 hours ago, Vesper said:

he is being turned into a villain by the UK and US press

on the biggest US political morning talk show, watched by 20 million plus, the hosts are calling Italy a thug team, boring, unskilled (in SOCCER, of course)

roflmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Good let their asses burn....Eng is far more boring than Italy imo.

[Clockwork 1,794]

8 hours ago, Johnnyeye said:

No doubt he had a great tournament, but his penalty miss could have been really costly for Italy on another day, Donnarumma saved his blushes, i will never be a fan of his penalty taking style. It worked vs Spain, but this time it backfired.

It was a great save by Pickford, no one scores every penalty. I think he needs to mix it more, like I said no one scores every penalty. Ronaldo doesn’t, Messi doesn’t, Hazard neither, or Lampard. 

[Clockwork 1,794]

England has only themselves to blame for their coward football. Top to bottom England are more talented, but they play like shit. I thought Italy overachieved. Their FBs are mediocre, and outside of Chiesa no one in their attack is worth anything. 
 

I honestly can’t fathom any criticism of the way Italian football played. This was a side that two years ago didn’t qualify for the World Cup, and now are Champions of Europe. 

[Mário César 975]

21 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

England has only themselves to blame for their coward football. Top to bottom England are more talented, but they play like shit. I thought Italy overachieved. Their FBs are mediocre, and outside of Chiesa no one in their attack is worth anything. 
 

I honestly can’t fathom any criticism of the way Italian football played. This was a side that two years ago didn’t qualify for the World Cup, and now are Champions of Europe. 

Insigne is a very good player

[Clockwork 1,794]

2 hours ago, Mário César said:

Insigne is a very good player

Not in my opinion, I think England has several better players in attack. He is quite average, struggled against better competition.

[NikkiCFC 7,942]

On 29/05/2021 at 23:21, NikkiCFC said:

I hope in 6 weeks he lifts Euro trophy! 

😏

[robsblubot 3,502]

12 hours ago, Clockwork said:

Not in my opinion, I think England has several better players in attack. He is quite average, struggled against better competition.

Think he's better than average, but agreed not a great player. Perhaps you are overrating England options in attack(ing mids) as well? I mean some good young prospects, and Grealish who plays for Aston Villa - with all due respect (to villa), we are discussing a different tier here. Foden, maybe, but still very young and not super consistent.

Italy is waiting for Zaniolo who has the potential to be a difference maker, but has had huge injury problems. Folks hope he will be fit for Qatar tho.

Edited July 13, 2021 by robsblubot