Sarri But Not Sarri Thread

[Vesper 30,160]

9 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

I agree, coming to Chelsea right now would set him up for failure. This is not the situation for an inexperienced manager to walk into. 

We definitely need the ban frozen, RLC and CHO injury unfortunately made this decision an easy one. The squad needs a rebuild, and i would trust Sarri in this situation. 

I will be very surprised if the bans are frozen, for reasons I have laid out in multiple (and before the bans were even official) previous posts. I have been (unfortunately) spot on in regards to this entire thing, again, before the bans even came down. I also do NOT trust the board to sort the team in just a few weeks if the bans are frozen in July (or even late June), and then we are fucked until summer 2021. The bans are not going to be overturned and we run a huge risk (due to new revelations of additional wrong-doing now coming out) of actually having them extended if we play our cards wrong. CAS freezing the bans is so not a guaranteed thing, as years have now went by since the rules were in place (unlike the Barca and RM bans, which cane down right after).

[Tomo 21,751]

[LAM09 7,048]

20 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Fans after 4-0 and 6-0 defeats*

[LAM09 7,048]

due to the bans, I lean towards keeping him, I do not want Lamps to come into what is going to be, more than likely, a semi-shit team

Allegri would be crazy to walk into this nightmare

I SO hope Derby beats Villa and gets promoted, so we can keep Mount and Tomori there for one last year of seasoning (and EPL-level seasoning), same for Lamps

Isn't keeping Sarri during a potential ban more of a risk? We have 41~ players out on loan and he's already said only two or three are ready. 

 

That in itself is a cause for concern.

 

 

[Laylabelle 9,534]

8 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

Isn't keeping Sarri during a potential ban more of a risk. We have 41~ players out on loan and he's already said only two or three are ready. 

That in itself is a cause for worry.

Plus he hardly did wonders with the team this season. If stuck with same lot be more of the same without Hazard this time. 

[Vesper 30,160]

14 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

Isn't keeping Sarri during a potential ban more of a risk? We have 41~ players out on loan and he's already said only two or three are ready. 

That in itself is a cause for worry.

if Lamps beats Villa, all this speculation is moot

he will manage them in the EPL next season, I have almost no doubt of that

if/when he fuck up badly next season, that's when having Sarri around for a right proper roasting will work out

he is the perfect villain to take the fall (not that it is even remotely all on him, the puppet board and RA are the true ones to blame)

I do not want Lamps walking into this shituation and blowing out his confidence

[LAM09 7,048]

29 minutes ago, Vesper said:

if Lamps beats Villa, all this speculation is moot

he will manage them in the EPL next season, I have almost no doubt of that

if/when he fuck up badly next season, that's when having Sarri around for a right proper roasting will work out

he is the perfect villain to take the fall (not that it is even remotely all on him, the puppet board and RA are the true ones to blame)

I do not want Lamps walking into this shituation and blowing out his confidence

Provided that happens and Sarri gets sacked 6 months from now; are we going to get Hiddink in for a patch up job?

Not to mention the prospect of more youngsters being sold in the meantime.

[Vesper 30,160]

16 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

Provided that happens and Sarri gets sacked 6 months from now, we going to get Hiddink in for a patch up job?

Not to mention the prospect of more youngsters getting sold.

Unless we can hypnotise Allegri and get him to come in, I am fully prepared to ride out with Sarri, see no upside to bringing in Lamps in the middle of thsi nightmare, especially if he in the EPL with Derby, we can deal with a patch job if/when that is needed

we all will know more after the Derby Villa final

also when the bans being frozen are down the drain as a possibility

it isn't (for me personally) I have not seen all this coming for a long time

time to pay the piper for years of dodginess from the board

IF Lamps loses the final and IF the bans are frozen, and IF the board actually rebuilds the team this summer, then maybe, maybe I could see Lamps in

the odds of all all three happening are remote, very remote

my greatest hope is that we knock Arse out of the CL, Manure fucks up badly in the t-market, so does Arse, and Spuds lose Eriksen and other key players

until we are sold to another billionaire who FULLY commits to getting us back to being a consistent top 4, 5, 6th club in the world (let alone the best), I cannot see us getting within spitting distance of Shitty (even with a Europe ban, it would take multiyear t-bans and CL bans to start to rip them apart and get Pep to bail) and Victimpool, the gap is too great, we have almost no truly world-class talent left, whilst they both have absolute bucketloads of it and will only buy more

for all their assorted issues

we are Mo's little horse atm compared to

Barca

RM

Shitty

Victimpool

Juve

Bayern

PSG

AM (but they are in a spot of bother if they lose a tonne of quality players)

 

we are in a mess, same as Manure, problem is they CAN sort it, they are a massive club and are not on a ban of FFP issues like we are

Napoli is better than us atm, especially with Eden leaving and our bans, BUT they may soon (within 3 years) fall, as they are semi-ageing and do not have the cash to rebuild to the level of the other 10 (us included), they are fighting with Dortmund, AC Milan (if they are get back into CL on a consistent basis) Spuds, Arse and Inter for that number 11 spot on the big boy board (we are in true danger of falling out of the top 10 and tumbling below every club I just listed if we handle this crisis poorly)

these listed are only 16 truly big clubs in Europe

I guess if you wanted an even 20

toss in 4 from

Roma, Lyon, Sevilla, RB Leipzig, Ajax (they are going to be shredded this summer though), Porto, Benfica, and Valencia

I would go with the first 4, but in reality, if pretty much any of the top 10, 14 clubs comes calling, those last clubs are going to lose the players

[1905didierblue 748]

People really do believe whatever crap is written on the internet. 😂😂

[LAM09 7,048]

@Vesper I don't believe we're in that dire of a state, just yet. The saga with Roman and the country is a different topic altogether.

The amount of uncertainty around the club will hopefully be addressed soon.

[Vesper 30,160]

3 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

@Vesper I don't believe we're in that dire of a state, just yet. The saga with Roman and the country is a different topic altogether.

The amount of uncertainty around the club will hopefully be addressed soon.

I hope you are right, but just based off pure football (assuming bans stay put) we are in some deep shit atm IMHO

I am trying to have low expectations so I am not disappointed next season

we are all powerless to do a damn thing about it as well

[ChelseaFanUK 1,014]

28 minutes ago, 1905didierblue said:

People really do believe whatever crap is written on the internet. 😂😂

a lot kinda expected Sarri to go anyway as the disconnect with fans is huge.

[oldportblue 547]

7 hours ago, ulsterchelsea said:

Club don't control rumours mate

I guess the argument would be that that someone at the club leaked all this..

[zekinjo 449]

For those Sarriout and LampardIn👇🏻 

Derby in the Championship 2018/19 (ratio rankings):

9th - Shots

3rd - Shots on-target

18th - Shots in the box

19th - xG

16th - xG from open play

18th - Touches in the box

10th - Deep completions

22nd - Very deep completions

5th - Possession

[Superblue 6,372]

5 hours ago, Clockwork said:

I agree, coming to Chelsea right now would set him up for failure. This is not the situation for an inexperienced manager to walk into. 

We definitely need the ban frozen, RLC and CHO injury unfortunately made this decision an easy one. The squad needs a rebuild, and i would trust Sarri in this situation. 

The only likely way the club can rebuild this season is by integrating some of their younger players into the first team and squad. Can Sarri be trusted with this?

I actually think he did a good job in the overall development of CHO and RLC this season, but there is also the counter arguments of whether this suggests he should have used them sooner and whether ban pressure led to their increased exposure in game's.

The big worry for me with Sarri is he seems to be loyal to players already experienced and used to his system and as a result would this mean that younger players would not get a fair shake as he'll far rather trust those he's worked with this last year? That would be fine if the players we currently have are performing but a number simply haven't this last season.