DDA 9,938 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 4 hours ago, The Skipper said: Not trying to be a knee jerk but he's looking quite average ATM. I know he's been playing out wide but he just doesn't have a presence about him. The opposite defence looks in control of him. I hope he'll be better when Hazard's back, but the performance didn't help my concerns about Morata. I have to say. Even before we was in for Morata and United were circling him, I was taking the piss out of my United mates. I thought it was brilliamt that they were going to spend soo much on him. Then we went and got him and now I am trying to convince myself that he will come good. It is early days and I will only judge after half or a full season depending on how bad or good it gets. All the early signs are worrying me though. The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Morata needs time. The physicality and pace of the Premier League will take time, and it's not just him getting used to the team and how Conte wants him to play but it's also the team getting used to him and the best way he plays. Will we miss Costa? Yeah of course we'll miss his goal record, as there is no guarantee Morata will match his numbers, but the club will adapt to play to his strengths. If he scored 60-70% of Costa's goals but his link play allowed other players to score more goals then there's no problem. How were we going to ever replace Lampard, or Drogba, or Cech, or JT? They've all been replaced and the club has moved on. They haven't necessarily been replaced by better players or 'new legends', but the club has adapted. Fabregas was never going to score Lampard's goals but our style of play changed and his game suited Costa (in the same way Lampard and Drogba aided one another). I have no worries, the club will move on and push on again. We always do, so have some faith peeps and be patient. Adnane and Mufassir08 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Polo7 3,496 Posted August 6, 2017 Popular Post! Share Posted August 6, 2017 Fucking hell this thread has become pathetic. Duppy Conqueror, kellzfresh, Hybrid Angel and 19 others 22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucashm 340 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 4 hours ago, Henrique said: Actually I think its the other way: people here never gave Costa the credit he deserved, and as soon as Morata as was announced I said this season people would realize how important he was for the team success during 15 and 17 PL trophies. Tô other side Morata fee was Just ridiculous. I cant understand why Neymar is generating all the fuzz when 70m was paid for Morata and the whole world acted as he was worth every penny. You cannot say if he was worth the fee or not, if you add up every minute he played so far, you wont even have 100, that's not even 2 fucking full games. People are absolutely dying for him to fail, fans from every team, including our fucking team( including you), you cannot draw conclusions based on a 30 minute cameo against Bayern in a game in which we had our asses handed to us, a game against Inter where he played on the wing for about 50 minutes( in which he did well BTW) and on a 20 minute game against Arsenal where we created fuck all for the entire game and were A MAN DOWN( BTW Bats was terrible today, where is the blackash for him?). Oh and by the way, a player is worth whatever a team is willing to pay for him, so dont give that "he is not worth 70M" crap, the guy has barely had a game and there is already a thread on Redcafe with 6 full pages on how crap he is and how United got the better deal. But dont worry, i am 100% sure, that he will shut everybody up, including some of the crying babies on this forum, and especially those fucktards on Redcafe who will once again finish well below us EMK, kellzfresh and Ryan Fong 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 2 hours ago, DDA said: I have to say. Even before we was in for Morata and United were circling him, I was taking the piss out of my United mates. I thought it was brilliamt that they were going to spend soo much on him. Then we went and got him and now I am trying to convince myself that he will come good. It is early days and I will only judge after half or a full season depending on how bad or good it gets. All the early signs are worrying me though. Yep, pretty much spot on on the last few sentences you wrote. I want him to prove me very wrong. DDA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,938 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 1 minute ago, The Skipper said: Yep, pretty much spot on on the last few sentences you wrote. I want him to prove me very wrong. Let's hope he proves us both wrong. The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 2 hours ago, Polo7 said: Fucking hell this thread has become pathetic. People moved heaven and earth to defend Torres even after all his failings and yet, people are already giving up on Morata after 2-3 short appearances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,938 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, Jason said: People moved heaven and earth to defend Torres even after all his failings and yet, people are already giving up on Morata after 2-3 short appearances. People defended Torres soo heavily because he always gave 100% despite playing like a plumber for Gillingham. Nobody is giving up on Morata yet but the scars run deep from past failings of the number 9 spot. I think people are more scared of history repeating itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucashm 340 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 4 minutes ago, DDA said: People defended Torres soo heavily because he always gave 100% despite playing like a plumber for Gillingham. Nobody is giving up on Morata yet but the scars run deep from past failings of the number 9 spot. I think people are more scared of history repeating itself. oh god not this number 9 BS again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,938 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Just now, lucashm said: Not this number 9 BS again It's more to do with position rather than numbers. You can't deny that this position has been a problem in the past. Strike and Chelsea? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucashm 340 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Just now, DDA said: It's more to do with position rather than numbers. You can't deny that this position has been a problem in the past. It's been a problem for what? 2-3 seasons? Which coincidentally were the seasons that Torres was leading our line? Yeah i cant deny that, but that happened because Torres was a shit player( with us), all we did was buy a good player again and voi la, it worked. The reason that Morata is being given so much grief is PURELY due to the fact that for some fucking reason he reminds a few people of Torres Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,938 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 6 minutes ago, lucashm said: It's been a problem for what? 2-3 seasons? Which coincidentally were the seasons that Torres was leading our line? Yeah i cant deny that, but that happened because Torres was a shit player( with us), all we did was buy a good player again and voi la, it worked. The reason that Morata is being given so much grief is PURELY due to the fact that for some fucking reason he reminds a few people of Torres You think it is just Torres who has flopped as a striker at Chelsea?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Tomo 21,751 Posted August 6, 2017 Popular Post! Share Posted August 6, 2017 24 minutes ago, DDA said: People defended Torres soo heavily because he always gave 100% No he didn't. kellzfresh, Peace., Jase and 8 others 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Georgy 439 Posted August 6, 2017 Popular Post! Share Posted August 6, 2017 If we hurry up we can still change his shirt number. nachikethas, MrExcalibur100, 11Drogba and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Spike 12,049 Posted August 6, 2017 Popular Post! Share Posted August 6, 2017 It's a fucking number . One game and you lot are already talking about Torres? Have a word with yourselves, wake up, hit the showers, and get a sense of perspective. It's embarassing. kmk108, YorkshireBlue, !Hazard! and 11 others 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,277 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 I can not actually believe some of the shit I am reading in this thread. Not actually started a game as are main strikers yet, but u guys crack on and slate him. Absolutely ridiculous give the guy a chance ffs. kmk108 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 45 minutes ago, DDA said: You think it is just Torres who has flopped as a striker at Chelsea?? There is a big difference between strikers who have flopped for Chelsea and first choice strikers who have flopped. We've definitely brought some dross, but certainly in the last 20 years I can only think of Torres and Sutton as first choice strikers who have been pitiful. Zola, Vialli, Hughes, Flo, Hasselbaink, Drogba, Costa...we've far from had it too bad. Tomo and 11Drogba 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! AK-3001 286 Posted August 6, 2017 Popular Post! Share Posted August 6, 2017 So Morata comes in, has no senior wingers to play with (Hazard injured, Pedro sent off as soon as he came in and Willian subbed) and you lot are totally bashing him for missing a penalty? Get a grip for fuck's sake. That boy won so many headers and almost put one in the back of the net. GIve him Hazard and Pedro/Willian around him and then judge. One penalty kick and the fans turn on him. Fickle. Also, can we change our URL to fickle.talkchelsea.net? kellzfresh, RoyalBlues, Barbara and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Thor 2,702 Posted August 7, 2017 Popular Post! Share Posted August 7, 2017 I was one of few against the signing on the board, and thought we should have gone for Lukaku, but after watching him play last night, I thought he did really well. I commented on the missed penalty just as some perspective based on how some on this board will bash one player for a certain thing, but another will get a pass. At the end of the day, should hit that nearly every time, but it happens. I won't blame him for the missed penalty. Everyone misses. Aside from his very first touch in the game where he bobbled it and lost it in the middle of the park, he was very impressive with his hold up and distribution off some difficult balls. Courtois was lobbing them to him and nearly every time he was around the ball, he controlled it or headed it to one of our men. Obviously when we're playing our best side, that will come extremely handy. Something we didn't get much of with Costa in the line up. Symbol123, Hybrid Angel, communicate and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea_firstlove 178 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Morata: 20 mins- 5 aerials won Batshuayi: 80 mins - 0 aerials won Tomo, kellzfresh, Blue-in-me-Veins and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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