ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 hour ago, petre.ispirescu said: He is on £185K p/w, net. https://www.elconfidencial.com/deportes/futbol/2019-04-17/jan-oblak-renovacion-atletico-simeone-sueldo-madrid_1950262/ You'd think that we could swing that ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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King Kante 1,643 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 24 minutes ago, ulsterchelsea said: This only happens if it is Kepa plus cash. For that reason, I think this has no chance. Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 1 hour ago, King Kante said: This only happens if it is Kepa plus cash. For that reason, I think this has no chance. In fairness you also thought there would be no transfer activity this summer... Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,944 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 This just seems like such a silly link for me. The equivalent of saying "Chelsea is interested in Neymar," or "Chelsea is interested in Mbappe." Just an impossible transfer due to the money involved. Fernando, Massie, Tautvix and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,142 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 38 minutes ago, Pizy said: This just seems like such a silly link for me. The equivalent of saying "Chelsea is interested in Neymar," or "Chelsea is interested in Mbappe." Just an impossible transfer due to the money involved. I said the same about Havertz when those noises started. Vesper and Dimitr 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jandomi10 82 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 https://www.chelsea-news.co/2020/07/chelsea-target-reportedly-open-new-challenge/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,219 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 7 hours ago, jandomi10 said: https://www.chelsea-news.co/2020/07/chelsea-target-reportedly-open-new-challenge/ Jamie Carragher tells Chelsea FC to sign 'game-changer' Jan Oblak this summer Frank Lampard has made an excellent start at Chelsea - adding Jan Oblak could make them title contenders Under Lampard, Chelsea have become one of the country's most exciting teams going forward, but at the back they are a mess https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/07/24/frank-lampard-has-made-excellent-start-chelsea-adding-jan/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,142 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 #Chelsea could buy a new goalkeeper this summer. #Blues are not satisfied of #Kepa, who could leave and come-back in Spain. The first choice of #Lampard is Jan #Oblak. Talks opened with agent of #AtleticoMadrid’s GK. The #transfer is not simple, but M.Granovskaia in action. #CFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Would be an absolutely ridiculous transfer window if Marina were to land Werner, Ziyech, Havertz, Oblak and possibly some defensive reinforcement too. Not that I believe for a second getting Oblak is even remotely realistic. That said, I didn't believe Werner and Havertz either when rumors of those first came out. Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,219 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Jype said: Would be an absolutely ridiculous transfer window if Marina were to land Werner, Ziyech, Havertz, Oblak and possibly some defensive reinforcement too. Not that I believe for a second getting Oblak is even remotely realistic. That said, I didn't believe Werner and Havertz either when rumors of those first came out. it is Monopoly money at this point if you add in Obak's fees + wages on a 5 year (let alone 7 year) contract assuming between wages subsidised and the massive hit on the transfer fee, we are looking at a £60m + net loss on Kepa then toss in the £205m or so (on a 5 year deal at his current salary) cost for Oblak (fees and salary) that is well over a quarter of a billion quid (£265m or so) for 7 (2 years of Kepa, 5 of Oblak) years' net cost just for our starting GK that alone is more than all but 29 clubs in the world entire rosters are worth on T-Markt, lolololol OhForAGreavsie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Vesper said: it is Monopoly money at this point if you add in Obak's fees + wages on a 5 year (let alone 7 year) contract assuming between wages subsidised and the massive hit on the transfer fee, we are looking at a £60m + net loss on Kepa then toss in the £205m or so (on a 5 year deal at his current salary) cost for Oblak (fees and salary) that is well over a quarter of a billion quid (£265m or so) for 7 (2 years of Kepa, 5 of Oblak) years' net cost just for our starting GK that alone is more than all but 29 clubs in the world entire rosters are worth on T-Markt, lolololol Yeah, Oblak isn't happening unless there is some way Atleti haven't been paying any attention to Kepa and we can pack him off to them as a swap then only pay a vastly reduced fee to top it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azorahai88 3 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 4 hours ago, Vesper said: it is Monopoly money at this point if you add in Obak's fees + wages on a 5 year (let alone 7 year) contract assuming between wages subsidised and the massive hit on the transfer fee, we are looking at a £60m + net loss on Kepa then toss in the £205m or so (on a 5 year deal at his current salary) cost for Oblak (fees and salary) that is well over a quarter of a billion quid (£265m or so) for 7 (2 years of Kepa, 5 of Oblak) years' net cost just for our starting GK that alone is more than all but 29 clubs in the world entire rosters are worth on T-Markt, lolololol You say this, but if you look at it the other way. We sold Courtois for £35m and bought Kepa £71m, so let's say we bought Kepa for £36m. Bought Werner and Ziyech for the money we got for Hazard with £10-15m left over. Morata we sold. We are likely to sell Bakayoko, Barkley, Drinkwater, Batshuayi, and possibly a couple of defenders too. We have sold Boga, and maybe Jorginho gets sold as well. Willian and Pedro off the pay roll too. I have heard we could do a deal of Kepa & money for Oblak. Who knows. It is either that or we buy Onana and Tagliafico for around £50m, then spend the rest on a CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,219 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, azorahai88 said: We are likely to sell Bakayoko, Barkley, Drinkwater, Batshuayi wish I had your positive crystal ball and my maths are stand-alone and based on what happened and what could happen (and will happen IF we buy Oblak and sell Kepa), not some revisionist history BTW, by NOT using smart contractual management (one of my biggest beefs with the board and Marina) with Cuntois (he said over and over he wanted to go back to Madrid) and selling him for at least £75m (Real would have dropped that at least in 2017) we shit away another £33m plus (we sold him for £31.50m, 35m euros, there were a bunch of shit sites who confused GBP with EUR) We then could have bought one of my top targets that summer Alisson (I was very much sold on him especially based off 2 of my best friends' reccos. They were living (one still is, a Swedish/Brasilian girl, whom I went to independent school with in Hammersmith, the other was her English BF, who broke up with her a while back and returned to London) in Porto Allegre when he was at Inter They were Gremio fans, but said he was the real deal, so I knew it was a good recco, as Rebecca especially HATES Inter (she grew up in Porto Allegre), I also was very impressed with him as the Roma backup in 2016-17. We could have bought him for peanuts compared to what he went for the next year. All that doesn't even begin to count the difference of buying Alisson for £20-30m or so (easily done in 2017, as he was their backup keeper then and Roma was in deep shit financially) versus the insanity of the transfer fees alone for Kepa and Oblak it was a massive, multiyear cockup Alisson (who, in summer 2017 was 1 or 2 months or so away from turning 25yo, so not some teen noob) <<<<<<<< OhForAGreavsie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vesper 30,219 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 On 29/07/2020 at 11:52 PM, Jason said: the difference between 1. us with another GK (but one better than what we have now) other than Oblak plus us WITH Havertz versus 2. Oblak and NO Havertz, plus Havertz ending up at Manure or Liverpool or Shitty (EPL and CL threats) or Bayern or RM or Barca or PSG or Juve or even Inter (CL threats) is massive No.1 is clearly the better position to be in, as a another good keeper and still having Havertz blocks our main competitors far more and improves us on balance far more also, Oblak's wages are insane, so his total cost is probably £70+m over 5 years versus Havertz's total amortised cost when fees + wages are tallied up (plus Havertz will end up on a direct or indirect rival) Strike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,492 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 42 minutes ago, Vesper said: the difference between 1. us with another GK (but one better than what we have now) other than Oblak plus us WITH Havertz versus 2. Oblak and NO Havertz, plus Havertz ending up at Manure or Liverpool or Shitty (EPL and CL threats) or Bayern or RM or Barca or PSG or Juve or even Inter (CL threats) is massive No.1 is clearly the better position to be in, as a another good keeper and still having Havertz blocks our main competitors far more and improves us on balance far more also, Oblak's wages are insane, so his total cost is probably £70+m over 5 years versus Havertz's total amortised cost when fees + wages are tallied up (plus Havertz will end up on a direct or indirect rival) I agree. Looking back, we should have signed a cheaper stop-gap keeper in 2018 instead of triggering Kepa's release clause Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,219 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Strike said: I agree. Looking back, we should have signed a cheaper stop-gap keeper in 2018 instead of triggering Kepa's release clause summer 2017 to winter 2018/19 was a disastrous 18 month, 4 window nightmare on almost ever level to do with transfers, sales, buys, botched buys, refused sales, and contractual management shameful, damn near club wrecking if not for the fact Roman was there to bail us out (and also our youth came good or soon will) killer1257 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,219 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 lol, half the sites say we are done chasing Oblak, the other half say he is the number one priority after we close out on Havertz some are also saying we will drop £50m on POPE, who had 35 total league topflight games before this season, all from one season, 2 years ago (out of 9 seasons) pile of tosh from every angle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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