The Conte Thread

[LAM09 6,793]

But Serie A is the bigger prize for them. It's been so long since they last won it and they would love to end Juve's streak. 

I think everyone in Italy would love to see Juve's domination ended tbh. It's worse than Bayern at this point.

[Atomiswave 6,072]

 

Former Juventus winger Emanuele Giaccherini gave an insight into Antonio Conte’s training methods and why he believes they can transform Inter. “He bleeds you dry.”

“When I read Conte was coming to Inter, I thought they’ve found the right person to take them back to the top.

"Conte is a winner who lifted trophies both in Italy and abroad. He can bring a winning mentality to those who haven’t found it yet.

“I can testify with confidence that Conte’s training sessions are shocking. I experienced them both at Juve and on international duty, especially when preparing for the Euros, and I can assure you in the afternoon I just wanted to collapse on to a couch and watch TV.

“Conte bleeds you dry, because it’s the work on the training ground that he builds his success on. His watchwords are culture of hard work, sacrifice, hunger and fighting spirit.

“Juve remain the favourites for the Scudetto and Inter might not manage to bridge the gap straight away, but they will be one of the favourites with Conte in charge.”

 

[Tomo 21,733]

Apparently he's just gone off on one regarding the Inter management publicly 

Usually he waits until he's had the success before he starts this bullshit.

[Jase 43,479]

4 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Apparently he's just gone off on one regarding the Inter management publicly 

Usually he waits until he's had the success before he starts this bullshit.

Not the first time he's done that this season either...

[OneMoSalah 8,788]

26 minutes ago, Jason said:

Not the first time he's done that this season either...

Tbf when you read the actual article the quotes about lack of winners, Barella and Sensi dont seem as bad as they do in that tweet. He is making excuses at Inter already which is a shame because he has made huge progress with them in a short space of time but perhaps they have reached a limit as to what he stated in another interview. I reckon they, like us, maybe need 2 or 3 players with more experience and higher ability in certain positions to push them on.  He is just being a realist although in a very blunt way.

[Jase 43,479]

6 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Tbf when you read the actual article the quotes about lack of winners, Barella and Sensi dont seem as bad as they do in that tweet. He is making excuses at Inter already which is a shame because he has made huge progress with them in a short space of time but perhaps they have reached a limit as to what he stated in another interview. I reckon they, like us, maybe need 2 or 3 players with more experience and higher ability in certain positions to push them on.  He is just being a realist although in a very blunt way.

But what kind of message does Conte send to his players when he says things like that (e.g. We got players from Sassuolo & Cagliari)? Imagine Lampard making similar excuses by saying we got young players, this team lack true winners etc! Inter spent a lot this past summer and brought in a lot of players, all this under FFP. Conte knew what he was getting into in the first place and it wasn't like he didn't get his players. 

[Vesper 29,046]

9 hours ago, Tomo said:

Apparently he's just gone off on one regarding the Inter management publicly 

Usually he waits until he's had the success before he starts this bullshit.

Tell him we will take Skriniar off his hands.

[Tomo 21,733]

4 hours ago, Jason said:

But what kind of message does Conte send to his players when he says things like that (e.g. We got players from Sassuolo & Cagliari)? Imagine Lampard making similar excuses by saying we got young players, this team lack true winners etc! Inter spent a lot this past summer and brought in a lot of players, all this under FFP. Conte knew what he was getting into in the first place and it wasn't like he didn't get his players. 

I can't help but wonder just how much he was at fault for what happened to Morata, Bakayoko and Christensen that season.

While I'm in no way absolving all three from blame I have to wonder, when three players start the season well but end it scared of their own shadow you surely have to look at the manager? One you could say it's them, even two at a push, but three?

Also on another note what Lampard is doing with all our injuries makes the ridiculous excuses he's currently making at not only Inter but his abysmal job (FA Cup aside) in his last six months even weaker than they already were.

[Fernando 6,488]

4 hours ago, Jason said:

But what kind of message does Conte send to his players when he says things like that (e.g. We got players from Sassuolo & Cagliari)? Imagine Lampard making similar excuses by saying we got young players, this team lack true winners etc! Inter spent a lot this past summer and brought in a lot of players, all this under FFP. Conte knew what he was getting into in the first place and it wasn't like he didn't get his players. 

Well it seems this is the problem of Conte. Does not have the intelligence to communicate. 

Lampard is doing brilliant in this. 

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12 hours ago, Jason said:

Not the first time he's done that this season either...

Fucking moron. I could (anyone could) build a CL winning team with players who came from shitty little clubs!

If Inter grabs Sandro Tonali, will Conte whinge on because he came from Brescia??? Idiot!

[Jase 43,479]

33 minutes ago, Tomo said:

I can't help but wonder just how much he was at fault for what happened to Morata, Bakayoko and Christensen that season.

While I'm in no way absolving all three from blame I have to wonder, when three players start the season well but end it scared of their own shadow you surely have to look at the manager? One you could say it's them, even two at a push, but three?

Also on another note what Lampard is doing with all our injuries makes the ridiculous excuses he's currently making at not only Inter but his abysmal job (FA Cup aside) in his last six months even weaker than they already were.

 

28 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Well it seems this is the problem of Conte. Does not have the intelligence to communicate. 

Lampard is doing brilliant in this. 

I almost hate to say this but Conte really is similar to Mourinho. They're both only interested in winning - not a bad quality to have, mind - and nothing else. When things don't go their way, they'll start moaning, kicking up a fuss and throwing toys out of their pram. Conte's disconnection - if that's the right word - in the second half of 2017/18 is an example. Didn't get the players he wanted in January, we weren't challenging for the title or CL and he just completely checked out. Conte, similar to or just like Mourinho, is great at getting the team as a whole motivated and managing them but is not good or not bothered at man managing the players on a personal level when required. Thankfully, Lampard is the opposite of those two when it comes to man management of the players. Maybe he has the benefit of having just retired not too long ago and played in the modern football period but he has shown the capacity to empathize with players, relate with them in a difficult situation and help them with it. I believe he is hard/strict when he needs to but also fair and open to communication when a player has a problem. 

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5 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

I almost hate to say this but Conte really is similar to Mourinho. They're both only interested in winning - not a bad quality to have, mind - and nothing else. When things don't go their way, they'll start moaning, kicking up a fuss and throwing toys out of their pram. Conte's disconnection - if that's the right word - in the second half of 2017/18 is an example. Didn't get the players he wanted in January, we weren't challenging for the title or CL and he just completely checked out. Conte, similar to or just like Mourinho, is great at getting the team as a whole motivated and managing them but is not good or not bothered at man managing the players on a personal level when required. Thankfully, Lampard is the opposite of those two when it comes to man management of the players. Maybe he has the benefit of having just retired not too long ago and played in the modern football period but he has shown the capacity to empathize with players, relate with them in a difficult situation and help them with it. I believe he is hard/strict when he needs to but also fair and open to communication when a player has a problem. 

Even though they are fairly polar opposites, Mou and Lamps share on thing that Conte and almost all footie managers utterly lack, genuine, verified  genius level IQ's. They just use them in diffrent ways. Mou goes to the dark side far too often.

[Vesper 29,046]

Conte's inner cunt is already showing. SMDH

[Tomo 21,733]

18 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

I almost hate to say this but Conte really is similar to Mourinho. They're both only interested in winning - not a bad quality to have, mind - and nothing else. When things don't go their way, they'll start moaning, kicking up a fuss and throwing toys out of their pram. Conte's disconnection - if that's the right word - in the second half of 2017/18 is an example. Didn't get the players he wanted in January, we weren't challenging for the title or CL and he just completely checked out. Conte, similar to or just like Mourinho, is great at getting the team as a whole motivated and managing them but is not good or not bothered at man managing the players on a personal level when required. 

Jose's a pussycat compared to Conte.

Jose just sulks and throws passive aggressive digs if he genuinely has a bad window. Conte goes to war with club heirachys even when he has a decent window (this one at Inter) and got players he wanted but were not first choice (2017 here). He's like a football manager version of Veruca Salt in that regard, which makes it all the more mind-blowing given how good he is getting not so great teams punching (Juve in his first two seasons, Italy, 16/17 Chelsea).

I honestly believe if Conte was fluent in English, his behaviour in the second season would have been 10 times worse.

[Henrique 9,133]

I hope right now some people will understand Conte makes his usual excuses for poor results. Its sad that back in the day many fans were buying those excuses and coming up with the usual bullshit: "if only the had the support from the board". 

Mr. Frank is showing how its done. He is working limited resources and trying to find solutions without getting expensive players.

[Tomo 21,733]

15 minutes ago, Henrique said:

I hope right now some people will understand Conte makes his usual excuses for poor results. Its sad that back in the day many fans were buying those excuses and coming up with the usual bullshit: "if only the had the support from the board". 

Mr. Frank is showing how its done. He is working limited resources and trying to find solutions without getting expensive players.

In hindsight I actually think the board probably did the worst thing out of the three options and compromised with his plan Bs.

As soon as the safe bet Plan As were unattainable Marina, Emenalo or whoever should have looked at the his previous transfer record, brought Rudiger and another striker not named Morata, maybe Auba and told him to use the academy for the rest of the depth like as you said Lampard is doing.

[Fernando 6,488]

I still think he's one of the best we had and could have gone to great things if he didn't pick a fight with the board. 

[OneMoSalah 8,788]

10 hours ago, Jason said:

But what kind of message does Conte send to his players when he says things like that (e.g. We got players from Sassuolo & Cagliari)? Imagine Lampard making similar excuses by saying we got young players, this team lack true winners etc! Inter spent a lot this past summer and brought in a lot of players, all this under FFP. Conte knew what he was getting into in the first place and it wasn't like he didn't get his players. 

 

Perhaps but saying imagine Lampard doing this or doing that doesnt mean anything because Conte was also like that to a degree at Juventus and won X amount of trophies because of it. Managers have different styles, man management techniques and whatever else no two managers are identical. Some can keep 11 players happy, some can barely keep 5 happy... 

If you read the quote its hardly as if hes said the players are shite or that, he said they played for Sassuolo and Cagliari before. They are now at Inter who are a much bigger club with higher expectations etc much like what Mount, Abraham and Tomori are experiencing here. Okay its never been publically said which can go both ways with players depending on how they are but if Inter go out, react and win there next game 3, 4 or 5-0 do you think they guys will be complaining about it then? Or the board might decide to free up funding for him although with the squad he has they can still get a CL space for next season easily.

We all know he likes a moan and I can see why people would be worried perhaps but it might work for him, they might react, they might sign 3 or 4 new players.. who knows? Plus I would imagine getting beat 3-2 would of annoyed him more than anything to do with the squad, I am sure Inter have lost their last 4 away CL games.