The Hiddink Thread

[xPetrCechx 13,573]

[OhForAGreavsie 6,077]

14 minutes ago, xPetrCechx said:

Starting after the break he said about opportunities for youngsters. He also said this was not a promise and that they'd still have to earn it. Actually he said 'knock on the door' but I think earn it is what he meant.

[Muzchap 8,966]

On 17 March 2016 at 1:29 AM, BlueLyon said:

Now with absolutely nothing to lose, with literaly zero to lose, we should play RLC every damn game. 

Why? Because if club board with Hiddink had any intelligence that we need to look in future, and Mikel simply should not be part of it, while Matic is in disaster of form, then I dont see why Rlc wouldnt play. If he does well, we get a mid for next 10 years. If not, we have nothing to lose because we already lost everything this season. 

But still, Guus and Co will fucking play Mikel just to safely finish season. 

Absolutely fumming. Even Van Gaal is giving more chance to youngsters because he knows seniors are shit and if at least one kid makes it, it will be a success. But not at chelsea. Yeah keep playing safe. Keep playing bunker in every major game and keep playing Mikel and Matic and Cesc who have shown this season they dont give two fucks for club and should be benched. Dont play RLC because he is "not ready". My ass.

Today juve shown example althrough with bad final score. They went agressively from first whistle. They were playing against dominant bayern away' without several key players, yet they decided to attack from first minute. If that was us, we would probably bunker the whole 90min just to be safe...the moment Allegri switched to bunker and took out Cuad and Morata, that moment they lost the game. But we decided its best to play safe against psg. 

As soon our coach and players grow some balls the better. 

I think you will see younger players get a chance now - absolutely nothing to play for, it would have been stupid for Guus to try out unproven players as if we had lost even more games, he would have been slaughtered for it. If you don't understand that, then I can only surmise that you haven't been in a position of leadership. To pick the so called best players and lose = little egg on face, there's no room for criticism. To play the youth over 'experienced' players and fail = massive egg on face as every 2 bit hack and Internet warrior would have claimed CL place would have been possible with 'experienced' players. Therefore, in my eyes Guus is blameless in this scenario. 

You watched Chelsea vs City right? I'm just checking because City did what you suggested and it was a shower of shite performance, I didn't see one potential star in their youth players... We humiliated them. 

So the fallacy that youth = great players, who will win - is pretty much just that, a fallacy... There is also the sad reality that the youth just might not be good enough  The step-up is huge - this is why we need the B Team system in England/Wales - will definitely give youngsters a more accurate platform in which to develop their skills

I can see you're angry about the season and the team in General but moaning about Guus is a step too far in my humble opinion. He's fine a decent job here and knows it's temporary, he has conducted himself on/off the pitch with the utmost professionalism and has helped the team gain some semblance of attacking play. 

If Conte is coming, I expect done big signings and a night/day change to our performances next season....

 

[BlueLyon 9,359]

14 hours ago, Muzchap said:

I think you will see younger players get a chance now - absolutely nothing to play for, it would have been stupid for Guus to try out unproven players as if we had lost even more games, he would have been slaughtered for it. If you don't understand that, then I can only surmise that you haven't been in a position of leadership. To pick the so called best players and lose = little egg on face, there's no room for criticism. To play the youth over 'experienced' players and fail = massive egg on face as every 2 bit hack and Internet warrior would have claimed CL place would have been possible with 'experienced' players. Therefore, in my eyes Guus is blameless in this scenario. 

You watched Chelsea vs City right? I'm just checking because City did what you suggested and it was a shower of shite performance, I didn't see one potential star in their youth players... We humiliated them. 

So the fallacy that youth = great players, who will win - is pretty much just that, a fallacy... There is also the sad reality that the youth just might not be good enough  The step-up is huge - this is why we need the B Team system in England/Wales - will definitely give youngsters a more accurate platform in which to develop their skills

I can see you're angry about the season and the team in General but moaning about Guus is a step too far in my humble opinion. He's fine a decent job here and knows it's temporary, he has conducted himself on/off the pitch with the utmost professionalism and has helped the team gain some semblance of attacking play. 

If Conte is coming, I expect done big signings and a night/day change to our performances next season....

 

True, but City put almost whole squad. Im talking about one player and even that because Matic and Mikel are nothing special right now. 

Besides its time for our coaches to grow some balls, stop thinking of themselves and work for club. Playing Mikel is a safe option, we might not lose games etc. But next season, Mikel should not be in plans anyway. So why not try something now that we dont have anything to lose. If Rlc works out, we could have midfielder for next season. 

And yes I understand leadership, its exactly what you said. But one thing; why would fans turn against Hiddink if he did try RLC and we lose few games? It would be a risk worth taking, lose one game or lose five, it doesnt matter now anymore. We already fucked up this season, so why not get something good in giving a player or two a chance. It doesnt even have to be RLC, it can be Kennedy or Baba or Traore. Just experiment.

I will be certainly more pissed at Hiddink if he plays Mikel every game and we win narrowly with more average performances rather playing RLC/Kennedy/Baba and lose. And if fans would be pissed at Hiddink if he tried that, then thats what is wrong with fans . They should see bigger picture but they dont.

[Muzchap 8,966]

15 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

True, but City put almost whole squad. Im talking about one player and even that because Matic and Mikel are nothing special right now. 

Besides its time for our coaches to grow some balls, stop thinking of themselves and work for club. Playing Mikel is a safe option, we might not lose games etc. But next season, Mikel should not be in plans anyway. So why not try something now that we dont have anything to lose. If Rlc works out, we could have midfielder for next season. 

And yes I understand leadership, its exactly what you said. But one thing; why would fans turn against Hiddink if he did try RLC and we lose few games? It would be a risk worth taking, lose one game or lose five, it doesnt matter now anymore. We already fucked up this season, so why not get something good in giving a player or two a chance. It doesnt even have to be RLC, it can be Kennedy or Baba or Traore. Just experiment.

I will be certainly more pissed at Hiddink if he plays Mikel every game and we win narrowly with more average performances rather playing RLC/Kennedy/Baba and lose. And if fans would be pissed at Hiddink if he tried that, then thats what is wrong with fans . They should see bigger picture but they dont.

Exactly that - why would fans react badly? It's not just fans it's the clubs hierarchy. Guus has a pretty good legacy as a manager, that's the problem with experienced managers, they are unlikely to gamble big as too much to lose, whereas younger unproven managers can gamble. 

I guess we will see over the remaining games if younger players get a chance

[Cech's helmet 220]

What a tosser. RLC/Traore should have started today. Grow some balls ffs and change this dumb formation for once.

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

Someone else chooses the lineup. Simple as.

[chelseafan26 293]

No balls. Shameless selection. GUTLESS hiddink

[AWorriedChelseaFan 151]

Would rather have Benitez here on interim compared to Hiddink's lack of balls to experiment a new lineup selections.

 

[lucio 5,418]

21 minutes ago, chelseafan26 said:

No balls. Shameless selection. GUTLESS hiddink

oh he has a gut, don't worry, a big fat one

[Laylabelle 9,536]

As well as he's done lose or draw this and we've won one home league game 

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Another home draw

[Blue Armour 4,448]

Have to definitely give credit were its due, and acknowledge that there's only so much that one can achieve with the crappiest tools at their disposal 

But can't believe people were actually clamoring for him to become permanent manager next season...

[Miki-Liki 405]

23 hours ago, Muzchap said:

You watched Chelsea vs City right? I'm just checking because City did what you suggested and it was a shower of shite performance, I didn't see one potential star in their youth players... We humiliated them. 

I don't think anyone expects us to start 5-6 seventeen-year-old kids each game, but players like RLC, Kenedy, Traore and even Baba should be starting games, they are not that green. Perhaps even utilize a defender from the academy instead of Cahill, you can hardly be worse than him right now.

[xPetrCechx 13,573]

[Laylabelle 9,536]

European spot?!can target it but won't reach unless every other team above falls apart.just gotta do what we do not that we're doing it that well

[BlueLion. 21,491]

6 points off 6th place, which is Europa League. If United win the FA Cup, it also means 7th is a EL qualifier spot, which we're 5 points off. Too big a gap, and possibly that is a good thing for us...

[Tomo 21,751]

One youngster doesn't play, moan.

One youngster does play, moan more ain't

[AWorriedChelseaFan 151]

West Ham were the better side today, we just got lucky with that last minute penalty. Hiddink's lineup was awful, and boring as usual. What's wrong with starting the likes of RLC, Traore and Rahman in today's match ? RLC came on for Oscar in the dying minutes and won us a penalty, what did Oscar does for the majority of the time he was on the pitch today ? Absolute fuck all. It's a criminal that Oscar is still founding his name on the teamsheet at a regular basis, one of the biggest fraud in football's history.

 

I'm glad Guus isn't planning to stay after this season is done and dusted, we need a manager with more balls than Hiddink the draw specialist.

[robsblubot 3,595]

13 minutes ago, AWorriedChelseaFan said:

West Ham were the better side today, we just got lucky with that last minute penalty. Hiddink's lineup was awful, and boring as usual. What's wrong with starting the likes of RLC, Traore and Rahman in today's match ? RLC came on for Oscar in the dying minutes and won us a penalty, what did Oscar does for the majority of the time he was on the pitch today ? Absolute fuck all. It's a criminal that Oscar is still founding his name on the teamsheet at a regular basis, one of the biggest fraud in football's history.

 

I'm glad Guus isn't planning to stay after this season is done and dusted, we need a manager with more balls than Hiddink the draw specialist.

Agreed, but ironically Oscar did win as much of a penalty as the one at the end.