Massacre In Paris

[lucio 5,418]

Meanwhile, The Telegraph reports that up to 450 radicalised Britons have returned to the UK from Syria. Scotland Yard is investigating 600 terror cases related to Syria and Iraq.

From "about 750 [british citizens] of interest to the security and intelligence services", who had gone to Syria "about 60% have returned", Charles Farr, director of the Office for Security and Counter-Terrorism said. He added that people, who can't travel to Syria or Iraq from the UK, have been told by Isis to stay and "undertake attacks".

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/paris-attacks-elite-sas-srr-forces-deployed-uk-streets-counter-isis-terror-threats-1528800

why on earth are they able to come back?

[the wes 7,212]

Are they being deployed in NI? I wouldn't have thought that would be an Isis target. Brighton , London , Manchester are probably at risk

i dont think so mate probably just england

[the wes 7,212]

What is SAS?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Air_Service

its SAS is a english verison of delta force us army

[kobematabryant 400]

Best Article on the Paris Attack

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The World, at Large — We are in mourning. Again. Indeed, Paris is in mourning, again. For the second time in less than a year, we are all de facto Parisians — with Facebook profiles, casinos, and whole buildings draped in the blue, white, and red of the French flag. Solidarity as sympathy, bien sûr — a most poignant message that humanity stands with Paris — and will act decisively to avenge the “carnage” unexpectedly wrought by those whose motives most will never fall victim to, much less comprehend. Most? Evidently, despite the accumulated knowledge of the entire planet at our disposal through the computer screen, solidarity has escaped some of us. And I am weary. Without question, I mourn for Paris’ recent victims and their families — and I would never claim knowledgeable firsthand experience of the same. But I refuse — despite my partial French heritage — to cloak myself in nationalism of any stripe or star, particularly not now. Because, besides victims in Paris, an incomprehensibly astronomic number of people have been grieving loss of the highest order for some time — in places whose names roll off our tongues as if it’s accepted that violence simply happens there — and a majority likely couldn’t guess the colors on these victims’ flags. You see, I also mourn for those killed mere hours before Paris crumbled into chaos, in strikingly similar attacks in Beirut. I mourn the hundreds of thousands displaced or killed in Syria, no matter their pledged allegiance. No matter their professed religion. No matter. I mourn for the millions killed in ongoing and renewed, illegal United States’ aggression in Iraq — and those facing a torturous demise from exposure to depleted uranium employed in violation of international and humanitarian law — for reasons far closer to ‘American’ and corporate hegemony than compassionate principle. I mourn the untold number killed in the United States’ insidious — and seemingly permanent — war in Afghanistan. And the countless children there who know nothing of peace, much less the feeling of safety it brings. And patients and staff recently targeted, bombed, and then shot while fleeing the Médecins Sans Frontières hospital in Kunduz — and the irony of that humanitarian organization’s French roots. I mourn those forced into human slavery or sex trafficking in Malaysia; and curse the scant hope they escape, now that the massive TPP has garnered U.S. government’s tacit approval of the abhorrence that is human trade. I mourn for Palestinians, whose land was usurped — and whose lives and infrastructure and families and sense of security and HOMES are under siege and occupation by an illegal and actively terrorist State. I mourn the patients and staff at the over 100 healthcare facilities in Yemen that have been BOMBED since March. And the apparently soulless who found an acceptable target in hospitals. I mourn for Yemen. I mourn for the victims of complicit government violence in Mexico, and 43 students and their families who lack answers. I mourn for Chinese men, women, and children working, quite literally, as slaves, so the West can be rude at dinner and take endless pictures — of its narcissistically apathetic self. I mourn rampant genocide — past and present — for the sake of manifest destiny. And empire. And imperialism. And inexplicable and unstated reasons. In fact, I mourn for all victims of terror, whether State or group sponsored, without conditions attached to my grief — no matter location, nor loyalty, nor arbitrary geopolitical happenstance of location of a victim’s birth. And I’m already grieving those soon to be terror’s next victims; since, as French President François Hollande jarringly warned, avenging Paris’ victims just birthed (yet another) “PITILESS” war. As if gentle were somehow a method to employ in waging war. Yes, I mourn for Paris. But I do so while weeping in shame at the deplorable supercilious judgment ensconced in Western reaction to it; for countless pitiable xenophobes and their endless vapid justifications; for arrogant commentary from politicians and their media mouthpieces with their embarrassing post-tragedy clamoring to exploit ignorant heartstrings for the appropriate victims; for the endless War of Terror — and the service members who somehow haven’t yet deduced that this would ALL END if they simply refused to ****ing fight. The fact is, grief on this scale is exhausting. And I’m very nearly out of tears. So keep these victims around the globe in mind — every, single man, woman and child who has, who is, and who will suffer the maiming, horror, torture, and death that’s as necessary to war as those who take up arms — when you next excuse a politician’s stance on war, because the rest of his or her platform seems really promising. Or, at least, seems the lesser of two evils. And shake that flag from your social media profile; and your home; and your thoughts. Because as long as you wear just one flag, your attempt to stand with victims of terror is a most embarrassingly hollow solidarity, indeed. - See more at: http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?234213-Shootings-reported-in-central-Paris/page5#sthash.n8UVwvmK.dpuf

[Last Sicarius 610]

If someone didnt see:

Moment when shooting started

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=383_1447558030

Also on this site you can find photo done after shooting but its not for young people.

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

Best Article on the Paris Attack

People "care more" about Paris because it hit a lot closer to home then the other incidents you mentioned.

Also Paris isn't a warzone nor does it have a history of these type of events. People simply weren't expecting this kind violence so close to their doorstep.

No one in West-Europe expects to get gunned down while having a drink with some friends in a cafe or going to a concert and getting executed 1 by 1 or getting blown up while going to a football match.

A lot of people are simply in shock and feel the need to do something even if it's just changing their facebook image background to a french flag.

I mean my mom walked in the morning after the paris killings and asked me " you heared what happened in Paris? " I said "yeah, it's crazy" She then said with a terrified look on her face " That happened only 3 hours from here " She kept looking at me for a few seconds and walked out of the room.

People are shocked because they realize if it could happen in Paris it could happen everywhere.

[Muzchap 8,966]

What is SAS?

They are the crack team of UK fighters - they differ from the US Delta Force as they are sworn to secrecy and don't reveal they are SAS. They train for years and the recruitment process is tough. They were formed in the Second World War and made a huge difference.

They very rarely go for a Big Bang - they try to operate as if they were never there - and try to keep casualties to a bare minimum.

There's some good novels by ex SAS veterans - Andy McNab and Chris Ryan

[manpe 10,861]

They are the crack team of UK fighters - they differ from the US Delta Force as they are sworn to secrecy and don't reveal they are SAS. They train for years and the recruitment process is tough. They were formed in the Second World War and made a huge difference.

They very rarely go for a Big Bang - they try to operate as if they were never there - and try to keep casualties to a bare minimum.

There's some good novels by ex SAS veterans - Andy McNab and Chris Ryan

Strange that they would be patrolling streets of N.Ireland.

[xPetrCechx 13,571]

I think that the next Photo sums up the whole problem:

https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/t31.0-8/12238430_1078731138812925_4380062293678386790_o.jpg

Left Side - A person participate in battles in the middle east. (Not a Nice Picture).

Right Side- The same Person Already In europe.

NSFW IMAGE - GRAPHIC VIOLENCE

Edited November 15, 2015 by Spike
Needed a bigger warning!

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

Absolutely everyone suddenly an expert on how to defeat ISIS

Absolutely everyone is suddenly an expert on how to defeat ISIS, according to reports today.

The Islamic State – who really hate being called the Da’esh so you should probably start doing that – have proven an intractable foe for several years, but all of a sudden everyone on the Internet has a solution which has eluded the world’s finest minds to date.

Popular suggestions include bombing the organisation back to the Stone Age, which unfortunately skips the fact much of the Da’esh is already there and actually quite like it.

Similarly popular is to reject unilateral action and insist on a coordinated international response through the UN, which has the advantage of ensuring the moral high ground, tempered only by the disadvantage of there being no chance whatsoever of it actually happening.

Meanwhile many American commenters insist the only way to avoid terrorist atrocities and mass shootings is to ensure everyone is armed, a strategy that has been working out tremendously well for them at home lately.

“I reject the idea of a complex, messy solution which risks me getting it wrong,” Internet general Simon Williams told us.

“I’d like to see members of the Da’esh arrested and tried but obviously I don’t want to see British troops deployed.”

“The fact that the government has failed to accommodate my contradictory wishes means I win the Internet and they don’t deserve to be in power.”

“So there,” he added, smugly.

One common suggestion is that the world could prevent the deaths of innocents by closing their borders to refugees, a great idea which is only slightly undermined by the fact it would condemn untold numbers of innocents to death.

Any suggestion that defeating the Da’esh will be time-consuming, very expensive, involve grubby compromises and certainly feature people we like dying has been rejected as completely unacceptable

[CHOULO19 24,332]

@Barbara, I'll answer tomorrow if I find the time, dear. Sorry.

People "care more" about Paris because it hit a lot closer to home then the other incidents you mentioned.

Also Paris isn't a warzone nor does it have a history of these type of events. People simply weren't expecting this kind violence so close to their doorstep.

No one in West-Europe expects to get gunned down while having a drink with some friends in a cafe or going to a concert and getting executed 1 by 1 or getting blown up while going to a football match.

A lot of people are simply in shock and feel the need to do something even if it's just changing their facebook image background to a french flag.

I mean my mom walked in the morning after the paris killings and asked me " you heared what happened in Paris? " I said "yeah, it's crazy" She then said with a terrified look on her face " That happened only 3 hours from here " She kept looking at me for a few seconds and walked out of the room.

People are shocked because they realize if it could happen in Paris it could happen everywhere.

I'm sorry, but it's not exactly debatable that human lives are not equal in the view of the world. Literally almost any knowledge of history proves this. For the most part, there are the people of the countries that own the world and then there the unpeople of the rest of the world. That's a fact. I don't say this in self pity, trust me, I hate to admit it just as much as you do.

It's not about geographical closeness. If the attack had taken place in Australia, would you have placed a Lebanese flag on your profile for the attacks in Beirut and barely mentioned the ones in Australia? Of course not. Heck, same to a degree would apply if it had happened in say Japan. Lebanon is not a war zone either and the civilians who died were just going about their daily lives feeling as secure as those in Paris were. And while the majority of French people didn't even hear about the attacks in Beirut, half my Facebook friends from Lebanon added the French flag as their profile picture 24 hours later.

The fact is accepted either implicitly or explicitly by everyone on earth. You are of the privileged valued people who own the world. Embrace it.

PS: Don't even get me started on how the media handled each attack.

[Billy. 2,742]

The reason the media in the UK are focusing on this so much is because it has happened so close to home, and we do not expect things like this to happen.

Cameron needs to close our borders ASAP. Needs to stop fucking about and worrying about what others may think and needs to start thinking about the safety of the UK. Otherwise I fear we will Suffer an attack like France has.

RIP to all that have lost their lives.

[Clockwork 1,794]

The reason the media in the UK are focusing on this so much is because it has happened so close to home, and we do not expect things like this to happen.

Cameron needs to close our borders ASAP. Needs to stop fucking about and worrying about what others may think and needs to start thinking about the safety of the UK. Otherwise I fear we will Suffer an attack like France has.

RIP to all that have lost their lives.

From what i have read so far, is that a partial of the Paris attackers were French and Belgium citizens. It is believed the Syrian passports were fake.

[jmarlow 458]

France Drops 20 Bombs On IS Stronghold Raqqa

http://news.sky.com/story/1588256/france-drops-20-bombs-on-is-stronghold-raqqa

[CHOULO19 24,332]

The reason the media in the UK are focusing on this so much is because it has happened so close to home, and we do not expect things like this to happen.

Again, if the attack had taken place in Australia would the media focus have been Beirut? How about if it were in Japan? No need to answer me, just think about it.

Cameron needs to close our borders ASAP. Needs to stop fucking about and worrying about what others may think and needs to start thinking about the safety of the UK. Otherwise I fear we will Suffer an attack like France has.

Your response to witnessing the very same horror that these refugees are running from is to send them back to where they have to face that horror on a daily basis? And yet you still can't see how you only see Europeans as humans and everyone else a couple of places below?!

[Billy. 2,742]

Again, if the attack had taken place in Australia would the media focus have been Beirut? How about if it were in Japan? No need to answer me, just think about it.

Your response to witnessing the very same horror that these refugees are running from is to send them back to where they have to face that horror on a daily basis? And yet you still can't see how you only see Europeans as humans and everyone else a couple of places below?!

But the news over hear did cover the bombings in beirut, yeah not as much a paris but still covered over hear. I understand where you are coming from but i dont control the media do i?

how do we know who we are letting in??? 20% of then could be Isis for all we know. im not saying send them back at all. But as of now we are on high alert for attack and letting 100 of thousands in that could contain some of those scumbags is not worth the risk.

And no i do not class Europeans above everyone else. I have family from SA, and Australia. If i had my way along with millions of other im sure we could all just get along in peace.

[Weckerz 3,781]

Again, if the attack had taken place in Australia would the media focus have been Beirut? How about if it were in Japan? No need to answer me, just think about it.

Your response to witnessing the very same horror that these refugees are running from is to send them back to where they have to face that horror on a daily basis? And yet you still can't see how you only see Europeans as humans and everyone else a couple of places below?!

Unfortunately a lot of Westeners don't give a rats ass about bombings in a place they perceive as 'terrorist' (read Muslim) territory. People are afraid and misinformed.

[Weckerz 3,781]

Nearly 100 Syrian rebelgroups have expressed their horror and disbelief for the attacks. They say the attacks broke Islamic law and are an insult to human values.

Inhabitants of Duma (east of Damascus) have written an open letter to France offering their support.

Militants of Idlib changed their facebook picture to the French flag.

This is being reported in a Belgian newspaper and it is what the people need to read.

[Starman60 1,343]

This may sound a stupid question but what the hell did they hope to achieve by killing innocent people? For all they knew they could, and maybe did kill Muslims as well as Christians and other nationalities from around the world. To me this is just like poking a lion in the ribs, because they will surely pay for this actrocity. France, America and England will retaliate and very soon.They will have turned the world against themselves. Already France has retaliated and this is only the start. And now the innocent refugees trying to get away from these murdering scum will all be looked at as potential terrorists. Lets just pray that they never get their hands on atomic weapons because that would mean the end of us all.

They (ISIS) need to be eradicated........and quickly.

[Muzchap 8,966]

Strange that they would be patrolling streets of N.Ireland.

They didn't 'patrol' as such - they were overseeing regular army deployments and engaged on side missions to mainly infiltrate and collect Intel. They really don't like people to see their faces