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That is about as realistic as total world peace. It'll never happen, there will always be conflicts. Without the USA and other powers interfering the world would be much different, for the worse. You suggest everyone just sit back and do nothing? Just stop buying oil and they'll go away?

I don't understand your point, I genuinely don't...

Assuming that the clear fairly simple guidelines I mentioned above are not doable, it doesn't mean that we should accept that and it certainly doesn't mean that the expected reaction that we were talking about in the first place will solve anything.

Excellent points Nour!

I wish people studied the reasons why everything is happening before drawing stupid pre-made conclusions like "nuke them all". It would not only make the world a better place but it would help my moderation job (lol).

But yeah, thanks a lot for explaining everything Choulo and I agree 100%. Just like bankers fought (and succeeded by the way) regulation reform after 2008 crisis, the belic industry will never allow for "peace" to strive because its not profitable. Its super sad but I bet some European and American companies are loving what happened because this will reignite their business...

One doesnt need to be a genius to arrive at the conclusions you pointed out in your post and big nations are definitely capable of certifying that such things are achieved if they actually wanted to. However, where will the 1,3 trillion dollars that are spent on security every year go otherwise? How will the governments justify the huge public money that goes to the private mercenary sector each year (an estimated 70million per week world wide) if there is no Al-Qaeda or ISIS? What the gigantic army budget? Even the military sector of Airbus. Etc. Etc. Etc.

Way to sort out your priorities! :D

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Im guessing there will now be a full on ground assault by a French led coalition. Seems like the airstrikes will never completely destroy ISIS.

In Syria? High unlikely. In Iraq? Possibly but only if there were plans to do so before the attacks.

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Way to sort out your priorities! :D

Lighting up the mood is necessary from time to time :)

But to reiterate on your post, I heard once a former Pentagon director on a TED talk saying they were too unprepared for how strong the US military was. He said that the invasion of Iraq in 2003 had achieved in less than a week what was expected out of a full month of war so there were yet no plans for rebuilding the country and its political system. He then goes on to elaborate how it should have been done and compare it to the absurds mistakes it was actually conducted in reality. Many things of what he said you point out as well.

I will try to find it...

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The Air Attacks Are nonsense...


Month ago, German Police arrested a suspected man, today they said he has a contact to some of the terrorists from yesterday...


one of the terrorists came through Greece with the another refugees...


Time for Europe to WAKE UP and start acting against ISIS.

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I don't understand your point, I genuinely don't...

Assuming that the clear fairly simple guidelines I mentioned above are not doable, it doesn't mean that we should accept that and it certainly doesn't mean that the expected reaction that we were talking about in the first place will solve anything.

Way to sort out your priorities! :D

My point is, while what you say may work, it will never happen. France have to protect their citizens. They need to ATTACK ISIS.
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My point is, while what you say may work, it will never happen. France have to protect their citizens. They need to ATTACK ISIS.

That makes no sense. Any French (or any other western) troops on the ground will create many times more local support for the side they are targeting. In case you didn't know, the French/British/US armies are not exactly popular in the region, and with pretty good reasons. It will certainly NOT make their citizens any safer, but on the contrary undermine the security of France. Ask yourself, why are the targets usually France, UK and USA, the three major imperialistic powers? That's not justify the attacks in any way, but it's an obvious fact that violence will create even more violence.

Lighting up the mood is necessary from time to time :)

But to reiterate on your post, I heard once a former Pentagon director on a TED talk saying they were too unprepared for how strong the US military was. He said that the invasion of Iraq in 2003 had achieved in less than a week what was expected out of a full month of war so there were yet no plans for rebuilding the country and its political system. He then goes on to elaborate how it should have been done and compare it to the absurds mistakes it was actually conducted in reality. Many things of what he said you point out as well.

I will try to find it...

Obviously there were many mistakes after the invasion, mostly from the lack of understanding of the society and probably the lack of caring about the population and some were obviously intentional policies of creating more sectarian divides. However all of that become irrelevant next to the biggest crime of the century which was the invasion itself. Can anyone actually justify the invasion now? All the thinly veiled pretexts have fallen since but people don't think about the reasons anymore. The biggest criticism of the invasion in the mainstream is that it was a 'mistake', a tactical blunder because it didn't work out. Nothing about it being the biggest international crime of the century or about the immorality of invading a country and causing the deaths of over 1.8 million people just for oil and political and military influence. Nothing about all the generals and leaders and even propaganda media editors who should be jail....

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Your post is so stupid it is hard to believe (it took you one reply to use the Godwin law, congratulations). You do not accept any debate, you just call people racists, you are ridiculous.

Thanks for answering my question.

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So Violence will create more violence? so if France will attack ISIS, more terrorists attacks on them? so what they have to do? be quiet and do nothing?...


2. The terrorists rent their cars in Belgium, and at least 1 of them returned to belgium... the police arrested him apparently....


Belgium-France-UK - Circle of terrorism.

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I'll say it: the cultural values of Europe & France are BETTER than those of Syria, or Iraq or most of sub-Saharan Africa. We are freer, more equal, more prosperous and happier as a direct result of that culture (the same culture that allows the self-hating liberal elite the comfort and the resources to express their mistaken views). Time to end the pernicious moral relativism

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Syria strikes to continue


Posted at19:20



French Prime Minister Manuel Valls says France will continue air strikes in Syria, targeting Islamic State, Reuters reports.




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HERE IS SOME WIKIPEDIA PAGES ON EVENTS RELATING TO TERRORIST ATTACKS IN EUROPE AND THE EUROPEAN UNION REGION.

List of terrorist incidents, 2015

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2015

This is a timeline of terrorist incidents which took place in 2015, including attacks by violent non-state actors for political or other unknown motives.

Terrorism in the European Union

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_European_Union

The failed, foiled and successfully executed acts of terrorism in the European Union are according to the European Police Office either unspecified, or pertains to religious issues, animal rights, right wing, left wing or separatist movements. The field is subject to considerable cooperation among national authorities.

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So Violence will create more violence? so if France will attack ISIS, more terrorists attacks on them? so what they have to do? be quiet and do nothing?...

2. The terrorists rent their cars in Belgium, and at least 1 of them returned to belgium... the police arrested him apparently....
Belgium-France-UK - Circle of terrorism.

Just spent about half an hour writing a huge post on what they and all of should do, would appreciate it if you read it :)

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And now some train got derailed in France killing some people. Not connected to the attacks, but still it's quite grim being French right now :( Feel sorry for them.

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Lassana Diarra Confirms Death of Cousin After Paris Terror Attacks
A Terrorist With a match Ticket, wearing a vest of explosives, tried to enter the stadium but the security stopped him so he decided to blow himself outside...

what Could happen if he entered the stadium... :fainthv9:

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