The Mourinho Thread

[Cholo 428]

It's better to take a little break now. I'll take a little walk. Any unjustified critcism against Mourinho always drives me crazy and makes me get a heart attack.

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

  On 21/09/2014 at 18:32, Alex said:

It's really got nothing to do with you so why are you commenting?

Actually I reported him twice earlier, he told me to go die and wasting oxygen or something along those lines in the match thread. He just continued it here.

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

  On 21/09/2014 at 18:34, José0711 said:

It's better to take a little break now. I'll take a little walk. Any unjustified critcism against Mourinho always drives me crazy and makes me get a heart attack.

As you should...it is one thing to post stuffs you don't agree about and the other to go and tell people to die or being a wasted space on Earth.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

With players like Costa, Hazard, Willian, Oscar, Fabregas and so on, I can understand and relate to the frustration of our style of play in this match. If football was solely about results then no one will have any qualms about the way we played today. But unfortunately, for one of the biggest clubs in the world, with fans all around the world, it isn't. No one is questioning Mourinho's record as a manager. His managerial record shows he is one of the best managers not only of this era but in history.

But he's not perfect. And part of his defects were shown today. We were clearly set up to play counter-attacking football (as is almost always the way with Jose away from home) and the problem with that is that when it doesn't work, we produce one of the most turgid brands of football among the big European clubs.

Mourinho's tactics were ineffectual today, at least part of it. He said it himself in the post match interview. The "final phase" of attack never happened. But it never happened vs Man United away, vs Atletico away, vs Man City FA cup loss away, vs Arsenal in the league away. He's going to have to brainstorm and come up with some new ideas in these big matches away from home. We have to start playing like a big team now, not just at home but away to other big teams. No excuses.

Can't wait for the next game so I can forget how we played in this one.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

  On 21/09/2014 at 18:34, MrBlueGuy said:

Actually I reported him twice earlier, he told me to go die and wasting oxygen or something along those lines in the match thread. He just continued it here.

I saw you reported him, and I ignored the reports.

If you find someone over the internet telling you to go and die offensive, then you must be incredibly thin-skinned! Lighten up, it's a football forum. People can very easily type things behind a keyboard they wouldn't dare say to your face. Just be the bigger person and ignore it. If we gave warnings out to everyone who called someone a cunt on here, there'd be no member without a warning to find!

[Joker10 946]

  On 21/09/2014 at 18:01, Barbara said:

I don't get most of the posts here.

Some people here NEVER watched Mourinho's Inter and Mourinho's Madrid. He took a lot of risks with both of those teams. He isn't just reactive manager - although he's that as well. He's a manager that tries to do everything he can to win and he makes a few mistakes in the way.

I'm royally pissed at him for making me resent Didier. That's not Didier's fault. He tries and fights, and runs, and does everything he can in the matches, the problem is he can't do much, he's been shit lately, he's 36, he's a shadow of a footballer, not simply of his old self. That's Mourinho's mistake.

We had a more than shaky defense for most matches so far, so he set up a team that would offer cover to that frail defense. We did a great job through and through defending. Iva/Schurrle made a mistake that cost us a goal, you can't blame Mourinho for that.

I hate his insistence on playing Drogba in important matches and I hope he can let it go, otherwise I will be really, really disappointed, but other than that, I don't see what horrible mistake he did today. Costa was unlucky not to make 2-0. We played better when they were down to 10, Mourinho doesn't play in the pitch... we were only dominated with one more man in the pitch after Lamp's goal. It's a normal reaction if you ask me, that was awkward and difficult for the players to deal with. Mourinho made mistakes today, but the overreaction here is 1000x times worse than any mistake he's done.

This shit, reactive manager that owned everyone in the transfer window has his team at the top of the league unbeatable and with 3 points ahead of flukes and 5 points ahead of the closest title contender. Get a grip or go support Bayern.

Well if you don't think Mou is reactive manager then clearly he has deceived most of the world of football. I could bring up many examples over his career to show that, but i would love to see you bring up handful of examples where that is not the case.

And as for your comment go support Bayern?

Smh it is always not black and white, and personally not a fan of what Pep is doing at Bayern either. He has the same problem as Mou, not being able to adept to his team. Ideally how Bayern played in their CL victory under Jupp is perfect football for me. When off the ball press press press and challenge for the ball, and on the ball attack with purpose and speed. Great example of being proactive and playing on the counter.

[Cholo 428]

  On 21/09/2014 at 18:34, MrBlueGuy said:

go die and wasting oxygen

You could be a journalist for The Sun. Making up quotes. Anyway, bye bye lads!! Top of the league! KTBFFH

[edetarod 2,155]

Pellolgrini a becoming more senile by the day

mind the gap, shitty

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

  On 21/09/2014 at 18:38, Alex said:

I saw you reported him, and I ignored the reports.

If you find someone over the internet telling you to go and die offensive, then you must be incredibly thin-skinned! Lighten up, it's a football forum. People can very easily type things behind a keyboard they wouldn't dare say to your face. Just be the bigger person and ignore it. If we gave warnings out to everyone who called someone a cunt on here, there'd be no member without a warning to find!

Nope doesn't bother me any bit as you can see I carried on talking to him here. What I mean he is constantly using that language as soon as he doesn't agree with me on any point. I just want to know if there is a line or a limit for it because if I start doing it back then the whole thing won't be pretty for anyone.

[Barbara 15,149]

  On 21/09/2014 at 18:38, Joker10 said:

Well if you don't think Mou is reactive manager then clearly he has deceived most of the world of football. I could bring up many examples over his career to show that, but i would love to see you bring up handful of examples where that is not the case.

And as for your comment go support Bayern?

Smh it is always not black and white, and personally not a fan of what Pep is doing at Bayern either. He has the same problem as Mou, not being able to adept to his team. Ideally how Bayern played in their CL victory under Jupp is perfect football for me. When off the ball press press press and challenge for the ball, and on the ball attack with purpose and speed. Great example of being proactive and playing on the counter.

did you miss the part where I said he's that TOO, but he isn't just that as you labeled him?

You can bring a lot of examples where he reacted and I can bring you a lot of examples where he took the risks and jumped at the gun. What's the point? Are we going to keep changing that? My point is that you can't label him as only that when he showed character to take matters into his team's hands many times - many of them against stronger teams - when he had to.

He's a manager that will make everything he needs to win. React, be pro-active, play mind games and come up with unexpected tactics, still you reduced him to simply a 'reactive' manager.

I'm not the one who's been deceived here.

[Myself 793]

Guys, just be happy we don't have a manager like Arsene Wenger

[BlueLion. 21,491]

  On 21/09/2014 at 18:41, MrBlueGuy said:

Nope doesn't bother me any bit as you can see I carried on talking to him here. What I mean he is constantly using that language as soon as he doesn't agree with me on any point. I just want to know if there is a line or a limit for it because if I start doing it back then the whole thing won't be pretty for anyone.

If it persists then I will act, rest assured.

People who insult you rather than debate your point are either a: too lazy to explain their argument or, more usually, b: have realised you're right, they're wrong, and they feel a bit silly about it. Just ignore it.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Shame this thread is more active when we don't win. Even if it's a point away from home against the Champions

[Bir_CFC 3,455]

Said in the post-match interview that we didn't go all out for the win after the City goal because players looked mentally and physically tired.

Meant they didn't have a good reaction to conceding so decided to hold what he had instead of possibly conceding another.

[xPetrCechx 13,565]

Try to play beautiful football and not to win a single trophy in 8 years...

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[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

  On 21/09/2014 at 18:47, kellzfresh said:

Shame this thread is more active when we don't win. Even if it's a point away from home against the Champions

It's a point, yes but I don't see anybody bemoaning the fact we got a point at the Etihad, just the way we played and the incredibly negative tactics we deployed. I think that's perfectly normal.

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

  On 21/09/2014 at 18:47, kellzfresh said:

Shame this thread is more active when we don't win. Even if it's a point away from home against the Champions

It is natural really, the way forums work. Also because posting something controversial is more engaging for most people than just simple praises. For example lets say someone post ''Mourinho is a world class manager, he will lead us to great glory!''. What do you expect people to say? Erm ''OK you are right, I agree!!!!''

However if we discuss general issues such as for example his negative tactics today, people can come in and argue about it, thereby creating a debate. But it seems it is either for or against. You either support him or you are a Pep supporter. There is no middle line. Same with people saying we should either do all out attack Arsenal and lose 6-0 or ultra bus parking and draw 0-0. There is no middle ground such as good defending and occasionally going forward like last season.

[Myself 793]

MrBlueGuy, out of interest, where do you rank Mourinho within the all time greats?