The Mourinho Thread

[José1893 89]

As far as Carlo and Real vs Jose and Real are concerned:

-Illaramendi

-Isco

- well-adapted Modric

- BALE

Got it?

[Rom2013 446]

Carlo Ancelotti did what Mourinho couldn't do for three years...

Congrats to Carlo..

Congratulations to Ancelotti but... a coach that won 1 title with a great team in ACMilan in8 years, and a coach that lost a league with PSG without any competition... I don't tink he is really that good.

He has some great moments specially in europe, but a lot of seasons really bad. For exemple many here say this season was really bad, Ancelotti with a lot of cash lost 1 title in France with PSG against no one.

He is a great coach no doubt about it. But...

In Madrid he has Mourinho team + Bale. No Barcelona and Guardiola killed Bayern.

[Pizy 17,860]

If José had done what Simeone did today and ran on the pitch trying to attack a player he'd have been labelled a disgrace to football and the English media would be calling for his resignation or sacking.

Flavor of the month Simeone does it and it's "passionate" and basically already forgotten.

And for people with all this praise for Carlo "doing what José couldn't already" shit should slap yourselves. Failed to win the league with the worst Barca side in years by far and played Atleti without their best player in the CL final. Spent £100m + and had last years new signings settled. Not winning anything this season would've been embarrassing.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

Carlo Ancelotti did what Mourinho couldn't do for three years...

Congrats to Carlo..

Carlo came to a squad that went to the semis three times and then spent: 86M on Bale(match winner), 25.5m Isco(super sub), 32m Illarramendi(wow). Anything less than a Champions league finals berth would've been a huge disaster.

Credit to Carlo though! wonder what would've been said had they not scored in the final minute of the game.

[Henrique 9,133]

As far as Carlo and Real vs Jose and Real are concerned:

-Illaramendi

-Isco

- well-adapted Modric

- BALE

Got it?

He lost:

-Well adapted Ozil.

-Higuain.

Plus, Carlo deserves credits for "adapting" Modric.

[Henrique 9,133]

If José had done what Simeone did today and ran on the pitch trying to attack a player he'd have been labelled a disgrace to football and the English media would be calling for his resignation or sacking.

Flavor of the month Simeone does it and it's "passionate" and basically already forgotten.

And for people with all this praise for Carlo "doing what José couldn't already" shit should slap yourselves. Failed to win the league with the worst Barca side in years by far and played Atleti without their best player in the CL final. Spent £100m + and had last years new signings settled. Not winning anything this season would've been embarrassing.

Ancelotti was in a "transition" season. lol

To be honest I don't even know why we are debating this. What Mourinho did in Madrid has nothing to do with his current job.

He failed to win the UCL with Real and Carlo managed to win in his first season in charge. FACTs. Is Carlo better than Mourinho, I don't think so, I will pick the portuguese any day of the week, I also think Simeone did a better job than Ancelotti and is easily the manager of the season.

To other side its just ignorance to downgrade Carlo's conquest just to make Mourinho's years in Madrid better. Just imagine Mourinho winning UCL with us, and someone saying "big deal, not winning anything with this squad and the amount of money he has would be embarrassing". For fuck sake, Ancelotti has 3 fucking UCL trophies, and alongside Paisley, is the most successful manager in Europe ever. FACT.

He won the first UCL trophy for Real in 12 years, and Mourinho was supposed to do that but failed. FACT. The rest, are excuses.

For me it would be better if Mourinho could win a third trophy as Chelsea manager, and we could be discussing his achievements with us, instead of trying to find excuses for his Real Madrid's failure.

[LAM09 6,535]

I think everyone knows this is a make or break season for Mourinho. He has nothing to hide behind next season.

[CMS 382]

Jose vs Barcelona.

TOTAL: Played 17, Won 5, Drawn 6, Lost 6. Goals Scored 25, Goals Conceded 31

That season Jose won 1 game and lost the other in the league to Barcelona and lost copa del rey to barcelona.

I figured you were going to go there. Its a 50-50 thing. Going by your quotes, Barca lost 5, won 6 and drew 6. That does not sound like dominance for a team that beat everyone silly. Stop reading Dailymail. I will post below the record of Real Versus Barca from 2004 till 2010 right before Jose so you can try and figure out things. Prior to 2010 Real maybe won four games is all. After 2010 It was a toss up. Real got knocked out in the round 16 or earlier until Jose took them to three semis in a row. So exactly what part give credit when credit is due don't you get?

Primera Division (Spain) 23/03/14, 21:00 Real Madrid - FC Barcelona 3 : 4 (2 : 2) (1 : 2) 29. Gameday 26/10/13, 18:00 FC Barcelona - Real Madrid 2 : 1 (1 : 0) (1 : 1) 10. Gameday 02/03/13, 16:00 Real Madrid - FC Barcelona 2 : 1 (1 : 1) (1 : 0) 25. Gameday 07/10/12, 19:50 FC Barcelona - Real Madrid 2 : 2 (1 : 1) (1 : 1) 7. Gameday 21/04/12, 20:00 FC Barcelona - Real Madrid 1 : 2 (0 : 1) (1 : 1) 34. Gameday 10/12/11, 22:00 Real Madrid - FC Barcelona 1 : 3 (1 : 1) (0 : 2) 16. Gameday 16/04/11, 22:00 Real Madrid - FC Barcelona 1 : 1 (0 : 0) (1 : 1) 31. Gameday 29/11/10, 21:00 FC Barcelona - Real Madrid 5 : 0 (2 : 0) (3 : 0) 13. Gameday 10/04/10, 22:00 Real Madrid - FC Barcelona 0 : 2 (0 : 1) (0 : 1) 30. Gameday 29/11/09, 19:00 FC Barcelona - Real Madrid 1 : 0 (0 : 0) (1 : 0) 12. Gameday 02/05/09, 20:00 Real Madrid - FC Barcelona 2 : 6 (1 : 3) (1 : 3) 33. Gameday 13/12/08, 22:00 FC Barcelona - Real Madrid 2 : 0 (0 : 0) (2 : 0) 15. Gameday 07/05/08, 22:00 Real Madrid - FC Barcelona 4 : 1 (2 : 0) (2 : 1) 36. Gameday 23/12/07, 19:00 FC Barcelona - Real Madrid 0 : 1 (0 : 1) (0 : 0) 17. Gameday 10/03/07, 22:00 FC Barcelona - Real Madrid 3 : 3 (2 : 2) (1 : 1) 26. Gameday 22/10/06, 21:00 Real Madrid - FC Barcelona 2 : 0 (1 : 0) (1 : 0) 7. Gameday 01/04/06, 22:00 FC Barcelona - Real Madrid 1 : 1 (1 : 1) (0 : 0) 30. Gameday 19/11/05, 20:00 Real Madrid - FC Barcelona 0 : 3 (0 : 1) (0 : 2) 11. Gameday 10/04/05, 19:00 Real Madrid - FC Barcelona 4 : 2 (3 : 1) (1 : 1) 31. Gameday 20/11/04, 22:00 FC Barcelona - Real Madrid 3 : 0 (2 : 0) (1 : 0) 11. Gameday 25/04/04, 19:30 Real Madrid - FC Barcelona 1 : 2 (0 : 0) (1 : 2) 34. Gameday

[CMS 382]

He lost:

-Well adapted Ozil.

-Higuain.

Plus, Carlo deserves credits for "adapting" Modric.

Or maybe Modric needed time to adjust..

[CMS 382]

Head to Head Statistics : FC Barcelona vs Real Madrid Year 2009

The Soccer Teams FC Barcelona and Real Madrid played 2 Games up to today.

In this common Games the Teams scored a average of 4.5 Goals per Match.

FC Barcelona Real Madrid Win 2 0 Loss 0 2 Draw 0 0 Ø Goals per Match 3.5 1 League Table 2. 3.

[xPetrCechx 13,546]

Congratulations to Ancelotti but... a coach that won 1 title with a great team in ACMilan in8 years, and a coach that lost a league with PSG without any competition... I don't tink he is really that good.

He has some great moments specially in europe, but a lot of seasons really bad. For exemple many here say this season was really bad, Ancelotti with a lot of cash lost 1 title in France with PSG against no one.

He is a great coach no doubt about it. But...

In Madrid he has Mourinho team + Bale. No Barcelona and Guardiola killed Bayern.

He lost the french league?! To?

[Fernando 6,375]

Oh shattap. Jose built that team for him. He destroyed Barca's dominance, they would have been still languishing as a third place team without Jose. It just shows how much you know about soccer. Zippo..

Well Ranieri built a team for mourinho as well... At least the core but I never heard any praises for that...

So sadly that's how this sport is, you forget about the hardwork the previous manager did in building up the team and just focus on who won what.

[Tomo 21,681]

Carlo Ancelotti did what Mourinho couldn't do for three years...

Congrats to Carlo..

We didn't win the CL under Carlo, he leaves and we win it the season after, so under your warped logic Di Matteo's the better manager.

[Korea 734]

We didn't win the CL under Carlo, he leaves and we win it the season after, so under your warped logic Di Matteo's the better manager.

we parked the bus and won

We also sabotaged the league and came in 6th.

Manchester United was very close winning against Munich and could of potentially ran the table...

[Polo7 3,496]

we parked the bus and won

We also sabotaged the league and came in 6th.

I see you're the type that likes all flair and no trophies.....Arsenal forum is that way ------>

[Korea 734]

I see you're the type that likes all flair and no trophies.....Arsenal forum is that way ------>

haha. It's true. That's why Brazil is my second favorite national team.

[Tomo 21,681]

we parked the bus and won

We also sabotaged the league and came in 6th.

Manchester United was very close winning against Munich and could of potentially ran the table...

Which just shows using single knock out cups to measure managers success is silly. Di Matteo has succeeded were Hiddink, Mou and Carlo all failed at Chelsea, yet i doubt even Robbie's biggest fan would put him on par with those 3. Moyes could have fluked it and found himself 1 behind Fergie with years ahead off him.

And you say we gave up the league to focus on the CL, well so did Real this season.

On another note, if Jose smashed the world record and lost the title to a squad that cost half that player alone he would get crucified regardless off what cups were won.

[Korea 734]

Which just shows using single knock out cups to measure managers success is silly. Di Matteo has succeeded were Hiddink, Mou and Carlo all failed at Chelsea, yet i doubt even Robbie's biggest fan would put him on par with those 3. Moyes could have fluked it and found himself 1 behind Fergie with years ahead off him.

And you say we gave up the league to focus on the CL, well so did Real this season.

On another note, if Jose smashed the world record and lost the title to a squad that cost half that player alone he would get crucified regardless off what cups were won.

Real lost by 3 points (1 game) off the top.. We were 25 points from the top and even Newcastle was higher than us.

Also, Jose took Pellgrini team that brought in ronaldo, benzema, alonso and kaka and beat Pep in the league 2 seasons later during the year barcelona had so much internal and injury problems, than got his ass handed by Tito