The Mourinho Thread

[coolhead23 1,146]

These are not Jose's problems he inherited them ,come next summer and after the transfer window our team will be a proper team and not a football manger team,with players brought in to enable you to win matches and trophies,at the moment we are a playstation team with a collection of no. 10s and no balance. He will put this right because he understands football .

So we spend another few millions on buying players ... then that doesnt work, another manager and another team ... nice loop ...In the end, Chelsea would be sold out to Arsenal type owners and then we all would cry!

[The only place to be 11,313]

Oh the kid jibes. Supported this club 6 years before Roman came cause of my grandad, and I talked about silver spoons being in my own mouth too unless you failed to see that.

Supporters are free to criticise but not in the fucking way its being done. You and I have very different definitions about how football is supposed to be then.

Oh well done. You supported us when we were one of the most fashionable teams around.

Wait...you supported us since 1997....when you were born?

And I have no doubt that you and I have very different definitions of what football is.

[hjperdeath 2,226]

Oh well done. You supported us when we were one of the most fashionable teams around.

Wait...you supported us since 1997....when you were born?

And I have no doubt that you and I have very different definitions of what football is.

fashionable would be questionable. highly pixelated on the screen more like.

right that year.

not a single doubt.

[Roquila 1,335]

This guy is a fucking fraud. Not only are we playing shit, we're regressing game after game. Half the season gone and I can count the number of decent performances on the fingers of one hand. The players make the same mistakes every single game - which begs the question, what do you coach them for and about, fucker?

Also, his press releases are tedious as fuck. Stop using the t word and stop trying to pass off grossly incompetent performances all over the pitch as being due to lacking a killer instinct. Notice how he's gone all quiet on his "preparation methods" once we started shipping in those set piece goals from the Sunderland game? Yet he was more than happy to harp about how he had sussed West Ham's style of play after we beat them.

Oh and play Mata. Get over yourself you idiot.

Kneejerk of the year? I guess after some sleep you feel better today.

On topic: In Jose i trust and thats it.

First: 'Oh play Mata, Jose play Mata you know shit w/e'. Mata played plenty of matches and i didn't see a single decent performance from him.

Second: 'Play KDB he is talented , he is Belgiums nr.1 omg Mourinho hates Belgium blabla'. I admit KDB didn't get many chances but bar that performance vs Hull i didn't see anything good from him.

Ba? Eto'o? Mikel? They are so bad you could replace them with a fat guy and you wouldn't notice anything.

Ba is the weirdest footballer ever! He cannot walk(not run, WALK) on a straight line and his first touch poor. After he does his first touch he usually falls down or tries to shoot with his knee or whatever(because he cannot do a normal pass or shoot).

Eto'o... well boy... Nah, i won't say anything about him.

Scapegoat Mikel should leave as soon as he can, he got enough trophies, if he wasn't a Chelsea player he would be happy getting top3 in the Championship(his kind of quality).

Players are underperforming and it's not Jose's fault. Get over it you spoiled brats. You all want to sack a manager every 5 months? You got spoiled too much by Roman. Grow a pair of balls and be a man(Not you Barbara). Football is Football, you cannot win everytime.

[The only place to be 11,313]

fashionable would be questionable. highly pixelated on the screen more like.

right that year.

not a single doubt.

It wouldn't be questionable in the slightest. It's when a lot of the gloryhunters started finding relatives who had long supported us.

[hjperdeath 2,226]

It wouldn't be questionable in the slightest. It's when a lot of the gloryhunters started finding relatives who had long supported us.

Ah something we all can connect with then.

[Fernando 6,388]

I don't know if the club has the philosophy it does because of the fans or if the fans react like this because of the philosophy the club has...

No patience whatsoever, everything is solved with money, no immediate success = permanent failure, no trust in the manager to actually give him time to work, money, money, money, money. All we see around this forum is about money. If Roman leaves will half of the fans that post here too?

If the players don't turn up, money is the key, buy new ones. If the manager doesn't give you immediate success, money is the key, hire a new one. What if the support is crap? Can we buy new ones too?

There's a lot of good things said in criticizing and defending posts, I'm not generalizing all of you and your ideas, but it's just so weird to have everything revolving about money. I do agree we have pivot and striker issues that should have been addressed better, I do agree another CB squad member wouldn't hurt us. And I do agree Mourinho and the board could have done better in the transfer window... but teams in the league, around the world, work around deficiencies and we should do the same. I don't know if I should blame this FM game instead (never played, don't know how it works, but many posts here talking about it gives me the idea). All teams have problems, but when things are working, those problems are sort of covered. I'll once again talk about October. I don't know what happened ever since then, and I do hold Mourinho accountable for part of the problem. It's his players!!! If they don't do what he expects them to do, it's part of his job to find a way to fix it.

@The only place to be and others defend we use more youth - but young players are unstable and if people are treating Lamps so disrespectfully I can only imagine what they (not the ones defending it) would say about Chalobah, Ake, or whoever (in addition about Mourinho) when one of them makes a capital mistake that leads to a defeat or a draw. They'll be burned alive even more vehemently which is why I'm thankful they're in the youth. They don't need to be exposed to this...

Others believe we need to offload ALL experienced players (bar JT, I don't remember reading his name among the many lists I've come across since yesterday). Then who will provide the much needed experience to them? Who will lead them? Juan Mata, who can't be shier about leadership? Other shy kids like Oscar? Or quiet blokes like Willian? There needs to be some balance, this isn't a game you play on playstation... Mourinho has started sparing Lampard more often, but issue remains he had a plan: to have Marco learn from Lamps, and I'm sure he'd rotate them and have Mikel only for certain kind of matches. The kid got a season long injury...

I do think he's made a mistake with the strikers. I'm not even saying he should have kept Lukaku (it's a plan though), but we should have got someone else. Eto'o really can't help. I was willing to give him a chance, but he blew said chance. Or we should have gotten someone else.

But now, the shit is done, the players we have at least until January (and there's a chance we won't get any fix in the winter window) and we have to suck it up and try to support the team through the thin and thick. Yes, we should vent about things when they don't go well, but I feel a bit of overreaction, defending Mourinho and some players, as well as dismissing Mourinho and many players. I do think the generation that got to play so much FM gets a bit carried away about having a perfect team. Newsflash, that only exists in your console.

Way before the season started I said I didn't expect titles (or at least major ones), before we touched the ball in the first pre-season game, I said we'd be transitioning based on Mourinho's first press conference and also in the overall situation. I haven't changed my stand, obviously, but I won't deny I expected things to be better. Again, I don't get why we stopped the progress and regressed. We started shaky and unsure in August, Mourinho approached ManU and Spurs game way too cautiously, but around October the team had progressed compared to August, then November happened and we had some bad results... but December seems to be worse because of the defensive issues we didn't have until then. We keep missing a lot chances (I had to write the post-match report for Chelsea Brasil and we did create at least 3 clear chances of goal, 1 with Eto'o and two with Ba, we dominated the first minutes of extra time, we just didn't try hard enough, again the problem is attitude imo), our defense leaks more goals than relegation zone teams. Instead of progressing we're now regressing and I don't have a clue of why. I do know it's Mourinho's job to fix it, even if the problem is players not being interested, invested enough. They have to turn up and play with heart and clutch. And we need to get rid of all our strikers.

I may have offended some of you with the FM thing, but all those problems we do have don't justify this idea of building a perfect team because in real life said thing doesn't exist.

Totally agree that patience and support is important.

But if we are being patience and support the current manager then it begs to ask the question whey didn't we do it with the others?

This whole season so far has mask the truth that Mourinho ain't way above a AVB, Benitez, RDM, Carlo and such.

In fact AVB said it good when he was at Porto. They thought he was a good coach for the run he had but he said it was because he had good players. Which was true as that Porto had amazing player.

And that one day he would have not so great players and he would be the "Shit One"

[The only place to be 11,313]

At the end of the day, we needs to stick with him because he is quite possibly the last chance we have at building a properly sustainable club for the next decade.

Who are the alternatives? Some other rent-a-coach who gets his paycheque, doesn't fix the underlying issues and then is replaced after two years? We need to go all-in with Jose and hope it pays off.

[BleedsBlue 1,549]

Every big club in the league has lost a few matches against weaker opponents.There is no need to overreact and form sides because at the end of it all,most of us are all here to support the club.

I believe Jose is the answer to our long term success and not the problem.Patience is all what I request from you all.Also if you have an opinion about this whole situation then just remember to stick with it and not change it when things eventually get better for us.

[bushman 2,043]

So much was written today about Jose & I just like to ask one more question.

Is Jose suited to accommodate the likes of Hazard,Mata, Oscar & William ?

Well, he better. Otherwise, it may not sit well with Roman for much longer. Certainly, Roman wants them to play more " beautiful " football as we read about.

In January we will see what influence Jose has over the transfer market. Whether, Zouma, Draxler & Guarin are bought. Some say, these players are more fitted to Jose´s style of play.

[thekid9 418]

STOP SAYING BULLSHIT!

It's annoying as heck!

Are you deaf? The guy has been complaining about the same thing for a month!!!!!! That the team has a chance to score 2, 3, 4 goals and doesn't and he DOESN'T like it.

20th....

Even if that's the case....he didn't buy a striker in the summer....people need to start getting over their jose fanboy attitude and see that it's his fault! the SAME players were scoring fine last season under Rafa!

Mata, Hazard , Oscar, Lampard were all on double figures , Even Torres had double figures by this point!!!!

So they players haven't changed , the manager has them trying to do extra responsibilities , that they don't really need to do , and therefore the attacking part of the game is suffering.

[Ainsley Harriott 2,732]

So much was written today about Jose & I just like to ask one more question.

Is Jose suited to accommodate the likes of Hazard,Mata, Oscar & William ?

Well, he better. Otherwise, it may not sit well with Roman for much longer. Certainly, Roman wants them to play more " beautiful " football as we read about.

In January we will see what influence Jose has over the transfer market. Whether, Zouma, Draxler & Guarin are bought. Some say, these players are more fitted to Jose´s style of play.

It's hard to accomodade 4 AM's in one formation, plus Schurlle and KdB. Unfortunately the one's that have been put "aside" are a player of the year and the other great talent. At first I believed he could rotate them but ou just can't keep changing them and still be consistent..

And I hope we don't buy Draxler... More talented than Kevin? Maybe yes, maybe no, but he would still be the sixth choice for AM...

[Special Juan 27,111]

Imagine asking Torres, Ba and Eto'o to just do their job, and score goals

[Ainsley Harriott 2,732]

Imagine asking Torres, Ba and Eto'o to just do their job, and score goals

Something like this?

[thekid9 418]

Something like this?

But even the AM's are not scoring as many , Cause they are too busy "doing their defensive duties" they got on fine just attacking last year!!

[bushman 2,043]

It's hard to accomodade 4 AM's in one formation, plus Schurlle and KdB. Unfortunately the one's that have been put "aside" are a player of the year and the other great talent. At first I believed he could rotate them but ou just can't keep changing them and still be consistent..

And I hope we don't buy Draxler... More talented than Kevin? Maybe yes, maybe no, but he would still be the sixth choice for AM...

Well, the way I see it. Roman spent plenty on Mata, Hazard, Oscar, William. He bought them cos he wants to see his Chelsea playing an attractive football, I feel. Subsequently this Jose comes back, apparently the differences between him & Roman were settled, be it. Now, Roman sees his Chelsea playing shitty football & not winning. What do you think Roman will say to Jose ?

Welcome Jose, how much money do you need to buy YOUR TYPE OF PLAYERS ?

I get the feeling, of course I am not certain, he just might say. Dear Jose. I hired you to play gradely football & I do not want to go back to your defensive, boring 1 nothing games. Either you succeed or start packing.

Would you invest one billion into a football team & watch them to park the bus ? Di Mateo was fired because of it & I agreed,then. So this my view of it & we will see who gives in come January.

[thekid9 418]

Well, the way I see it. Roman spent plenty on Mata, Hazard, Oscar, William. He bought them cos he wants to see his Chelsea playing an attractive football, I feel. Subsequently this Jose comes back, apparently the differences between him & Roman were settled, be it. Now, Roman sees his Chelsea playing shitty football & not winning. What do you think Roman will say to Jose ?

Welcome Jose, how much money do you need to buy YOUR TYPE OF PLAYERS ?

I get the feeling, of course I am not certain, he just might say. Dear Jose. I hired you to play gradely football & I do not want to go back to your defensive, boring 1 nothing games. Either you succeed or start packing.

Would you invest one billion into a football team & watch them to park the bus ? Di Mateo was fired because of it & I agreed,then. So this my view of it & we will see who gives in come January.

If he wants to play defensive crap and 1-0 wins with this team of amazingly talented attacking players, I'd rather he left now and we get someone in who wants to play football.

[bushman 2,043]

If he wants to play defensive crap and 1-0 wins with this team of amazingly talented attacking players, I'd rather he left now and we get someone in who wants to play football.

Exactly as I feel, but tell it to the others here. Soon, a swarm of bees are coming out their hive.