The Mourinho Thread

[petre.ispirescu 4,928]

6 hours ago, Essien19 said:

The hunt has already started, it's gonna be a lot more fun if he catches one of them during the act.
 

To be serious, i think the media is making things up. It's easy to write this kind of stuff when Jose is losing matches.

Neville feeding the fans with links to the article makes me feel it's his friend Rooney who leaked everything to the media.

United's old guard don't like Mourinho. I know Fergie tried to drop Rooney at the end of his reign, but don't count him out of this yet. His gesture at the end of the City match speaks volumes. 

And don't you ever buy that "Sir Alex Ferguson is friends with Mourinho" bullshit. If you read Diego Torres' book you will see that Ferguson hates Mourinho the same way Sir Bobby Charlton does. 

Mourinho was a mess after he found out that Moyes was appointed at United. He thought he is the one to replace Ferguson, although David Gill had told Jorge Mendes (Mourinho's agent) that United is not interested in Mourinho and Sir Alex's 1st choice is Pep Guardiola.

Mourinho though he is friends with Ferguson, but Ferguson didn't even call or text him to inform about his decision. And Sir Bobby Charlton's interview in which he said something like "A United manager would not do what he did to Tito Vilanova. Mourinho is a good coach, but I'd prefer to stop here." absolutely killed Mourinho. 

The days after United announced the appointment of Moyes, Mourinho did not even attend training sessions and let his assistants do the job. Jorge Mendes then leaked fake infos to the media that indeed Mourinho was offered the job by Sir Alex, about half a year before Moyes was appointed, but he had to reject it because his wife wanted to live in London  And then Mourinho had an interview and said that he knew way before that Ferguson was going to appoint Moyes because Ferguson knew he could not make Mourinho an offer because he had his heart set on Chelsea  So Mendes says his client had received an offer from Ferguson, but rejected it and then Mourinho says he actually did not receive an offer because Ferguson did not try to make him one because Mourinho informed him long time ago that he wanted to go to Chelsea, not United 

You will realize in time how full of shit this man is. 

So, my point is - Whoever took the decision to bring Mourinho to United, he went over Ferguson and Bobby Charlton's heads. No doubt. Don't get surprised if Rooney is not the only one trying to make Mourinho's life miserable and United's old guard is involved, too.

 

[johnnythefirst 1,076]

He just blamed LVG for the fact his players are afraid of playing attacking football. What a cunt. Didn't know Louis was also responsible for Chelsea's tactics last season.

[Fernando 6,585]

9 hours ago, Essien19 said:

The hunt has already started, it's gonna be a lot more fun if he catches one of them during the act.
 

To be serious, i think the media is making things up. It's easy to write this kind of stuff when Jose is losing matches.

Think it's the media like you say. As you saw how they made up the thing about Roman. 

Mourinho and Roman are two figures you can make things up on a fly because of their past experience. 

[manpe 10,861]

10 hours ago, Essien19 said:

The hunt has already started, it's gonna be a lot more fun if he catches one of them during the act.
 

To be serious, i think the media is making things up. It's easy to write this kind of stuff when Jose is losing matches.

I'm surprised it has started because it is Man United afterall, everybody's darling. Guess clicks generated by using Mourinho's name outweighs their love for red.

[Essien19 1,415]

4 hours ago, petre.ispirescu said:

Neville feeding the fans with links to the article makes me feel it's his friend Rooney who leaked everything to the media.

United's old guard don't like Mourinho. I know Fergie tried to drop Rooney at the end of his reign, but don't count him out of this yet. His gesture at the end of the City match speaks volumes. 

And don't you ever buy that "Sir Alex Ferguson is friends with Mourinho" bullshit. If you read Diego Torres' book you will see that Ferguson hates Mourinho the same way Sir Bobby Charlton does. 

Mourinho was a mess after he found out that Moyes was appointed at United. He thought he is the one to replace Ferguson, although David Gill had told Jorge Mendes (Mourinho's agent) that United is not interested in Mourinho and Sir Alex's 1st choice is Pep Guardiola.

Mourinho though he is friends with Ferguson, but Ferguson didn't even call or text him to inform about his decision. And Sir Bobby Charlton's interview in which he said something like "A United manager would not do what he did to Tito Vilanova. Mourinho is a good coach, but I'd prefer to stop here." absolutely killed Mourinho. 

The days after United announced the appointment of Moyes, Mourinho did not even attend training sessions and let his assistants do the job. Jorge Mendes then leaked fake infos to the media that indeed Mourinho was offered the job by Sir Alex, about half a year before Moyes was appointed, but he had to reject it because his wife wanted to live in London  And then Mourinho had an interview and said that he knew way before that Ferguson was going to appoint Moyes because Ferguson knew he could not make Mourinho an offer because he had his heart set on Chelsea  So Mendes says his client had received an offer from Ferguson, but rejected it and then Mourinho says he actually did not receive an offer because Ferguson did not try to make him one because Mourinho informed him long time ago that he wanted to go to Chelsea, not United 

You will realize in time how full of shit this man is. 

So, my point is - Whoever took the decision to bring Mourinho to United, he went over Ferguson and Bobby Charlton's heads. No doubt. Don't get surprised if Rooney is not the only one trying to make Mourinho's life miserable and United's old guard is involved, too.

 

I haven't read the book you're talking about, just a few extracts. Maybe i should so that i can let you know my take on. But overall i wouldn't build my opinion based on one book which comes across (the aformentioned extracts) bitter and one sided. First and foremost Torres wans to sell copies and therefore he needs controversy. Still, as far as i know Mourinho didn't sue so it's not all made up out of thin air, but according to his advisor Palmares:

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"it is completely false. It has no head or tail."

In the end, it's he said she said, imo.

Anyway i find it confusing that i haven't see any? picture of Mourinho and Ferguson together after he has become new manager. There was even one with Charlton, ffs. But today i think they get along, maybe a bit of a dislike, but 'hate' is too strong a word of. Back in the day i remember Ferguson saying that Mourinho can manage anywhere. I thought they meet up and maybe work a bit together. Looks not to be the case.

Ferguson in 2016:

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'I thought Jose was wrong to go back to Chelsea [...]

'I think Manchester United is the right kind of club for him, I really do. I think we'll do well.'

He could be full of shit and got no other choice then coming up with stuff like this. But i for one wouldn't call the old man a blatant liar. You're right, the whole world saw Ferguson shaking his head.
Isn't it more likely that it was based on the team's poor performance than only because of the coach?

Mourinho in 2013 (event took place after the game against Man United):

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“The same way that he (Ferguson) told me he was going to retire and I kept secret on that, I also told him that I was coming in this direction [to Chelsea]

Ferguson didn't deny any of it to this day. Sure people can say Mourinho is such a bullshiter, the 'one of us', 'buillding a dynasty' all just words. But for me, i need more than Torres saying so to dismiss my knowledge.

I'm under the impression that Rooney liked Van Gaal, he was still his captain and therefore 'he shall always play'. Nevertheless Rooney seemed close to joining Mourinho's Chelsea back in 2013. At least the thought enticed him, Gerrard backs that one up. Maybe Mourinho's man management turns him off now, because after a loss you wouldn't want to be around with Mourinho, one player mentioned that one, forgot who, though.

Maybe now we'll get an open battle between Rooney's media imperium and Mourinho's trusted capos. I guess Mourinho fired first... -people wondering how Rooney's team is going to respond, there you have it. Still scratching my head that the man who benched Real's institution Casillas isn't following a harder line when it comes to Rooney. Bench him, ffs. Don't think Neville is in team Rooney, though, always speaking highly about the Portuguese and he knows what real management means. On the other hand, ginger prince Scholsey? Not sure.

[Essien19 1,415]

29 minutes ago, manpe said:

I'm surprised it has started because it is Man United afterall, everybody's darling. Guess clicks generated by using Mourinho's name outweighs their love for red.

Especially Tabloids look to be obsessed with Mounchester.

I'm not surprised with the others, they have their inside man for three years, that'll always make a good story.

Pressure today will be monumental, interesting to find out whether or not he'll make changes. It's a must win for them!

[manpe 10,861]

Jose Mourinho: the players who crossed Man Utd manager and what happened next

 

Interesting read.

[petre.ispirescu 4,928]

4 hours ago, Essien19 said:

I haven't read the book you're talking about, just a few extracts. Maybe i should so that i can let you know my take on. But overall i wouldn't build my opinion based on one book which comes across (the aformentioned extracts) bitter and one sided. First and foremost Torres wans to sell copies and therefore he needs controversy. Still, as far as i know Mourinho didn't sue so it's not all made up out of thin air, but according to his advisor Palmares:

You should read it. I know that the Spanish journos acted like cunts towards Mourinho's last season in Madrid, but he asked for it. The Spanish media came to its lowest point when they went after his family, I know it and it is not normal. The book, although exagerated at some points, is mainly made on sources from inside the club. And believe me, it was very hard to find somebody inside RM's HQ towards Mourinho's last months at the club to still appreciate him. Everybody in Madrid hated his guts apart from the ultras section. It's worth a read.

I recommend you to pay attention to the Levante part. Think it's in the first 20-30 pages if I remember correctly. It will show the (huge) class difference between Mourinho's RM and Guardiola's Barcelona. And between the two managers as well, of course.

[Special Juan 28,146]

He's having another meltdown....lashing out at all the so called football Einstein's who have criticized him

[Unionjack 7,531]

2 hours ago, Special Juan said:

He's having another meltdown....lashing out at all the so called football Einstein's who have criticized him

I really never thought he would have a problem up there. I thought with the players he brought in the fans/players/Mgmnt would be right behind him. But with all those massive egos in one place, all those players wanting game time added to not knowing where the fuck to play the most expensive player in the world and their long time captain then theres bound to be some major implosions from all directions.

Aint it a damned shame eh   I just hope Happy is fit by the time we play them.

 

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/sep/22/jose-mourinho-manchester-united-master

[Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067]

This is actually quite amazing. 

 

[Unionjack 7,531]

Jose Mourinho used to call Wayne Rooney ‘Fat Boy’ – but he was still desperate to sign him

 http://metro.co.uk/2016/09/22/jose-mourinho-used-to-call-wayne-rooney-fat-boy-but-he-was-still-desperate-to-sign-him-6146368/#ixzz4L2Nby9Gi

 

Fat Boy,Shrek,Ginger twat,Slap head are just terms of endearment. I've never liked him and was pulling my hair out when al that spiel about us signing him was happening..

I just hope Mounure lose the plot and they all go bonkers

 

[Parky 739]

What a bitter man. The sun is surely setting on his managerial career. After his sacked he'll probably end up in the MLS, China or the Portuguese national.

 

 

[Tautvix 1,321]

Lol English media... When Jose became Man Utd manager he was a special one again and media were writing love stories about Jose to get most clicks from Man Utd fans.

Few defeats and they are going against him for clicks  

But we have to enjoy this now because media used to do the same shit against Jose and Chelsea when he was here... And Man Utd fans probably enjoyed it...  

[KevinAshburner 1,270]

‘Jose Mourinho massively wanted to be LIVERPOOL manager…I know that for a fact’, former Reds star tells talkSPORT

http://talksport.com/football/jose-mourinho-massively-wanted-be-liverpool-manageri-know-fact-former-reds-star-tells

 

Manchester United boss Jose Mourinho was DESPERATE to land the Liverpool manager's job, former Reds star Danny Murphy has told talkSPORT.

Mourinho has long been seen as the enemy on Merseyside after sparking a fierce feud between Liverpool and Chelsea during his time in charge at Stamford Bridge.

And that relationship only intensified following his appointment at Old Trafford this summer.

But what few people know is that the ‘Special One’ was keen on the Anfield job before his successful first stint with the Blues, and was 'massively disappointed' when he ultimately missed out on the role to Rafael Benitez.

In a discussion with talkSPORT host Jim White about Manchester United’s current form, Murphy was asked if he would have liked to play for Mourinho, to which he replied: “Well, strangely, I nearly did!

“When Benitez was appointed at Liverpool, it was between him and Mourinho.

“I know that for a fact. Mourinho wanted the Liverpool job massively.

“But Liverpool basically went with Benitez, because he’d just won the Spanish league title and UEFA Cup with Valencia and they thought that was more solid an appointment than someone who had only done it, and that time, in Portugal.

“I know Mourinho was massively disappointed.

“I’m gutted too, because Benitez came in and didn’t want me. I’m just gutted it wasn’t Mourinho because he might have wanted me to stay!”

[KevinAshburner 1,270]

'I'll find Wenger and break his face': Shocking depth of Mourinho's loathing of arch rival Wenger revealed in damning new book

Jose Mourinho simply can't hide his hatred for Arsene Wenger: 'I will find him one day outside a football pitch and I will break his face'

• Jose Mourinho and Arsene Wenger have been in competition for 12 years
• Mourinho was quick to label Wenger a 'specialist in failure' after barren run
• But Mourinho wasn't happy when Wenger said he was scared of failure
• The then Chelsea boss said he would like to 'break his face' 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3802819/Jose-Mourinho-simply-t-hide-hatred-Arsene-Wenger-one-day-outside-football-pitch-break-face.html

By ROB BEASLEY FOR THE DAILY MAIL

PUBLISHED: 07:30 +10:00, 23 September 2016 | UPDATED: 17:19 +10:00, 23 September 2016

 

[Jase 43,479]

Mourinho is managing arguably the biggest club in the world and he actually moaned about raising expectations too high. Shades of Van Gaal...

[Liquidator 5,176]

He's just trying desperately hard to stay relevant as one of football's top managers bless him.

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

So he has a go at journos, calling them football Einsteins etc. Not a wise move.

The next thing all these incriminating quotes surface, that they've been sat on waiting to release. As Tautvix said they were bigging him up at the start.

Build him up and knock him down, its what they do in the US to black sports people

 

Special Once