The Mourinho Thread

[xPetrCechx 13,578]

[Essien19 1,415]

Sergi Domínguez ‏@FutbolSergi

#MUFC held talks with Jose Mourinho again. Jose made it clear: Real Madrid is his top priority and he needs time to make the decision.

Sergi Domínguez ‏@FutbolSergi

A man very close to Florentino Perez, @jpedrerol, says Mourinho leaves the door open for a return to Madrid. He knows he'll return one day.

I fully understand Jose.

He isn't running away from his demons, he has to make it right at the end of the day.

Hope that means that after the Madrid job, he will come back to us for a third time.

A man can dream!

[Ossie the King 634]

I agree but you are making it sound like we were 6th and not 16th at the time when he was sacked. I'd put my money and say that every other manager in the league would have had more points after 15 games with this squad than Mourinho has managed.

I too didn't expect us to successfully defend the title but that said, with the poor quality of other top teams we definitely should have at least challenged for it this year, let alone achieving top 4. Hell even if we sacked Mourinho a bit earlier I think with a good winning streak we could have done it.

And Jose clearly wasn't faultless in all of this. I just think we'd have been better as a club sticking with him, recommitting to his vision going forward and go again next year. Instead we're completely rudderless now and there's a total disconnect between the fans and the club. That to me is the worst part of all of this.

[Muzchap 8,966]

And Jose clearly wasn't faultless in all of this. I just think we'd have been better as a club sticking with him, recommitting to his vision going forward and go again next year. Instead we're completely rudderless now and there's a total disconnect between the fans and the club. That to me is the worst part of all of this.

Who knows - maybe they did ask him for his vision, along with other managers they were scouting and didn't like what he had to say?

Jose's brand of football is typically successful, but never beautiful, except a few rare moments.

Maybe, Roman, still hasn't scratched that itch of wanting beautiful football?

I guess we will never know what really happens unless Jose and Roman both release autobiographies and the truth would probably lay somewhere in the middle between them...

[Blue Colored Sky 1,807]

I fully understand Jose.

He isn't running away from his demons, he has to make it right at the end of the day.

Hope that means that after the Madrid job, he will come back to us for a third time.

A man can dream!

Haha, I promise if we're unsuccessful in the next 2-3 seasons I'm going to pray for Jose to come back. Last time it worked as I was literally praying for him to come back. The doors are certainly open.

[petre.ispirescu 4,928]

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/dec/22/devil-and-jose-mourinho

Basically what we, the glory hunters and the ones that should have no opinion because we do not attend games, have been saying for months now. Good read.

Would advise you to read Diego Torres' book on Mourinho as well. It's like the 2015 Mourinho has put in practice that book which was released in 2014. That guy Diego Torres must hate Mourinho with a passion, but boy he's spot on with all the things in that book.

[xPetrCechx 13,578]

Jose Mourinho has not been offered Manchester United job, says agent

"There is nothing. We don't know what will happen in the future, but now there is no agreement. There isn't an official proposal either, that's not true."

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/10108066/jose-mourinho-not-offered-manchester-united-job-says-agent

[Weckerz 3,781]

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/dec/22/devil-and-jose-mourinho

Basically what we, the glory hunters and the ones that should have no opinion because we do not attend games, have been saying for months now. Good read.

Would advise you to read Diego Torres' book on Mourinho as well. It's like the 2015 Mourinho has put in practice that book which was released in 2014. That guy Diego Torres must hate Mourinho with a passion, but boy he's spot on with all the things in that book.

Very good read, thx for posting

[GodZola 630]

Pochetino is of the Bielsa school. Him and pep are.

This is why I wanted to have someone like Bielsa to prepare the grounds for someone else to take over.

But Bielsa is like Mourinho, too crazy personality and these are not good for long term.

Prefare someone like Pochetino, so that's a good shout out for someone like him.

The only problem would be his experience in Europe but who cares about that just as long as we can get back on track.

I've heard of Bielsa, don't they call him 'the mad one' or something of that description, lol!

I'm surprised there's little or no weight being put behind Pochettino, maybe its just me putting to much emphasis on our talented youth....

Not sure no experience in Europe matters, José made the transition very easily at Porto.

[GodZola 630]

Tuchel has taken over at Dortmund post Klopp. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2554744-breaking-down-how-thomas-tuchel-has-changed-borussia-dortmund-tactically

Thanks for that fella, apologies didn't know the name but knew the face.

How longs has Tuchel been managing? Seems to know his stuff tactically, is he introducing players from their youth set up though?

[Rhino's Skin 972]

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[Rhino's Skin 972]

Apologies if this has already been posted. But, if not, thoughts?

nice flag....I know the guy that had that 8ft by 5ft one made and gave it to a young Indian lad who went to matches

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

Any manager we hire, in fact any manager at any top club, will be paid an astronomical wage and they will also (correctly) expect millions to be spent buying players.

Pep would be paid almost the same but has already said we need TEN new players. I imagine we'd buy these players.

If Simeone came in, he would expect the same.

What's amazing is that Mourinho DIDN'T get this in the summer yet didn't make more of it. He didn't complain, he didn't complain about Cech being sold against his wishes once the season started. He would have had every right to lambast the board for not backing him and not having more ambition but he didn't. That shows remarkable restraint in my opinion.

But yes, he's a millionaire so.....stuff.

You're ignoring the fact Mourinho WAS backed in the transferwindows before. I'm not gonna post all the names again but there were 13 players in 5 transferwindows brought in. An investment of 306 million euros was made.

You can moan all you want about the last transferwindow it's still not a valid excuse for being 16th in the league, 1 point off relegation after 16 games.

I could understand your point if say we sold some of our starters over the summer and didn't replace them properly but that's not the case here.

The only players that we sold over the summer were squad players and we adequately replaced them.

Cech out - Begovic in

Drogba out - Falcao in

Cuadrado out - Pedro in

Luis out - rahman in

[Ossie the King 634]

You're ignoring the fact Mourinho WAS backed in the transferwindows before.

Let me just stop you right there and correct you. I haven't ignored that.

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

Let me just stop you right there and correct you. I haven't ignored that. Ok, continue mate,

How about you drop the condescension, okay mate ?

[Ossie the King 634]

How about you drop the condescension, okay mate ?

Edited the post when I read it back. Was no need for that last bit.

[stroey 2,525]

You're ignoring the fact Mourinho WAS backed in the transferwindows before.

Lol anyone who knows Mourinho's history would say that's not true. He is very competitive and would never start a season with clear leaks in the squad but we did.

Let's start with summer 2013-14 - He wanted a striker, everybody knows Jose won't start a season without a proper world class striker but in the end we got an overweight and old (but still had some class) Eto'o to be our savior. That's basically giving your rivals a handicap on you.

2013-14 winter transfer window - we got 1 target Matic, but we got no striker.

2014-15 summer was good - we got our targets.

2014-15 winter window - only change was Schurrle (who wanted to leave for game time) for Cuadrado but it was clear Jose wanted a midfielder - why? He always plays Cesc as 10 and the squad player Ramires as CDM next to Matic. He knew Ramires lacked technical abilities but a midfield in big games with Oscar and Cesc was a no go.

2015-16 summer window - he clearly stated that he wanted a midfielder and defender, but he was not backed at all. We got Baba without a preseason with us, Djilobodji and Hector on deadline day and let Cech go to Arsenal - that summed up the backing he got from the board in the summer.

So basically, since summer 2014-15 we did not improve the squad at all. Jose has not been backed for a full year with a clear hole in central midfield, our starting right back as 31/32 year old and our starting CB as 34/35 year old.

[nadavTKL 1,787]

https://twitter.com/FFC_JM?lang=he

Joes's son is a Barca fan playing for Fulham U16? wtf, you cant make this up.

[kiwi1691 255]

Jose has gone and people are still bitching about him.........

[petre.ispirescu 4,928]

Going to Real Madrid. They said it tonight at Cadena Ser. Already negociating with Florentino Perez. Rafa Benitez will get the sack in the coming days, he's lost the dressing room, Isco won't speak to him, James is unhappy, Ronaldo walked into the dressing room after Madrid's game against Rayo and threatened to leave the team if Benitez is kept in charge. Mourinho urged Florentino Perez to speed up the negociations as Man United have offered him a contract and he has until January to give a response.